Jake King

[Dustin Credible]

Are those stats for this season or for the last few games?

 

[Bazzar]

Are those stats for this season or for the last few games?

Season

 

[THE THIN MAN]

[/list]Our top five for frees againsed

1- McGuane 15
2- Jack 14
3- Dusty 14
4- Simmo 13
5- Cotchin 12

Kingy (9) has some nice company

And Kingys Ave Eff% is 63.27 and Cotch`s is 62.69% Curiosity got me, Judd ave Eff 65.32%

And Friday night Cotch had a terrible Eff% of 29.41

If that was Kingy the whole forum would be after his blood.

And againsed the Bombers Kingy had an Eff% of 91 And hardly anyone bothered to give him some credit.

What is the free's per game ratio?

Jake King has not played the same number of games as others mentioned in the list.

 

[ata33cro]

the only time i get a build up when jake king is listed is when we play against collingwood

This reminds me of Nathan Bower. He would always be selected to play against P Matera lol

 

[Dustin Credible]

McGuane FF 6 FA 15 Games 10 Ave FA/game = 1.5
Reiwoldt FF 13 FA 14 Games 11 Ave FA/game = 1.27
Martin FF 10 FA 14 Games 10 Ave FA/game = 1.4
Simmonds FF 8 FA 13 Games 7 Ave FA/game = 1.8
Cotchin FF 21 FA 12 Games 10 Ave FA/game = 1.2

King FF 2 FA 9 Games 4 Ave FA/game = 2.25


In addition the FF show that King is more sinner than sinned against. With most others fairly even ,apart from Cotchin who has nearly twice as many frees paid for him than against him.

 

[RICHOLEGEND12]

Kingy has been doing some good tagging, quality little midget atm

 

[Bazzar]

McGuane FF 6 FA 15 Games 10 Ave FA/game = 1.5
Reiwoldt FF 13 FA 14 Games 11 Ave FA/game = 1.27
Martin FF 10 FA 14 Games 10 Ave FA/game = 1.4
Simmonds FF 8 FA 13 Games 7 Ave FA/game = 1.8
Cotchin FF 21 FA 12 Games 10 Ave FA/game = 1.2

King FF 2 FA 9 Games 4 Ave FA/game = 2.25


In addition the FF show that King is more sinner than sinned against. With most others fairly even ,apart from Cotchin who has nearly twice as many frees paid for him than against him.

Good work

Interesting to break his games down.

Rd 2 Angry Jake gave 4 frees away

After two suspensions (Tiges and Coburg) to his credit he now looks a completely different player attitude wise. Gone is the player who wants to do everything and kill everyone. No doubt Dimma laid down the law and has enforced the team/game rules on him.

Skip to rounds 9-11

Rd9 2 frees againsed
Rd10 1
Rd 11 2

Hope he keeps it up

 

[santa claws]

geez this super coach shit is going to kill the game. all i can say once again is stats schmats.

you only need use your eyes to see what level jake king should be playing at.

if we are to play a shedload of smalls each week surely they must in the main be classy highly skilled quick players who know where to go to get plenty of it. most of ours are plodders who have one redeeming feature but fall down in other areas..
the trouble with our list atm is its made up of far to many smalls of whom far to many are ordinary players or fail to meet the critweria smalls need to meet..

matt white poorly skilled poor decision maker does not get a lot of the ball but geez hes quick. why is he getting a game i dont need to watch him play to know hes a battler.

without going into it others who are in the same boat, that is they they lack in key areas but may be okay in some.
king, edwards, tambling, nason, nahas,white gilligan and king. it only leaves an ageing cousins, foley who is a very good player and off sets a lack of skill with almost elite ability inside and winning the ball, and webberley who i think is a decent player or solid rather than classy. we have regularly gone into games with nearly all these smalls on game day.its an area we have to change and if we wont change the structure and we insist on going small we need to find smaller players who are more classy and skillful.

imo we have 5 6 smalls who are worth their spot cousins, foley, who are miles in front of the other smalls on the list, nason just, webberley tambling and perhaps edwards. on game day there is no way i would be taking more than 4 or 5 of these players into games unless they meet the criteria or bring an out and out redeeming feature to the side.
want to be competetive want to win a premiership its easy just be bigger stronger faster with a fair sprinkling of skill.

 

[roughntoughtiger]

I personally like the bloke and feel he is unfairly treated amongst fellow supporters. Sure, he does some silly things at times...but for the past couple of weeks...he has been great and he is obviously keeping 'dimma' happy. Give credit to the bloke where and when its deserved!

 

[SteveoTheTiger]

I like the bloke too, his antics around the ground are always amusing to watch and there is nobody that would doubt his heart. But he is not good enough to remain on the list if we are to move forward at a team. Unfotunately for King, his spot will be taken by a younger (and hopefully better) player in this years draft.

For too many years we have kept people around the club because they try hard.. Premiership teams are not build that way.

 

[nineteen eighty]

At the start of the season I didn't believe he would still be on our list come 2011.

He does have some good attributes to be a tagger:

Pros: He is quick, tough, aggressive and able to get under the skin of opponents. Will give his all every day of the week

Cons:

1. Gives away silly frees
2. Is short and doesn't defend well close to goals. Taller opponents pushed forward can expose this
3. Disposal occasionally suspect.

He has definately improved in the last few weeks. IMO he hasn't done enough yet to warrant a new contract. However I conceed that should he continue to improve and maintains that level of performance he will earn himself a spot on our list for next year.

Pretty much sums up my thoughts. I do see him as our back up tagger to Jacko so whether he gets another year really comes down to list management. If DH and the coaching team think there is another tagger coming through then he may struggle but if not, then he may get himself another year. And to be honest, there are quite a few that we need to clear out before King. And I can't believe I just said that as I have been unmerciful on him at times.

 

[Madtiger2006]

Will be interesting to see if White and King are still on the list at the end of the year. Simmonds has gone and Mcmahon and Hislop must be the first delisted. Thomson will probably be next. Polak will struggle to keep his spot. Will Cousins play on? I'd like to see Polo break back into the team and be our tagger. Think he'd be better than Jacko and King in the long term but he'd want to start getting games soon . Tuck will keep his spot and maybe one or even both of White and King depending on the next 11 games. We'll delist about 6 players anyway

 

[Goldust]

I've never been a fan of King. But I will give him credit for trying and never giving up. Unlike some of our other players - Morton and McMahon.

YOU just have to laugh at statements like these!
Our team is 1-10 and guess how mnay games McMahon has played???
Seems we have plenty of other poor players too!

 

[jaytiger]

i think ata33cro point was that players that have the talent but no hunger are 10x worse then players with little skill and a huge heart. We need more players with both. However you can go back through history and find many "battlers" that have carved out a career but few talents with no heart.

 

[acr2751]

Will be interesting to see if White and King are still on the list at the end of the year. Simmonds has gone and Mcmahon and Hislop must be the first delisted. Thomson will probably be next. Polak will struggle to keep his spot. Will Cousins play on? I'd like to see Polo break back into the team and be our tagger. Think he'd be better than Jacko and King in the long term but he'd want to start getting games soon . Tuck will keep his spot and maybe one or even both of White and King depending on the next 11 games. We'll delist about 6 players anyway

my list
simmonds retired
mcmahon delist/trade
thomson delist

in trouble trade/delist
hislop skills to poor for afl
polo going nowhere fast
polak times up

maybe's
cousins retired hopefully 1 more year
rance trade if we dont get a trade i would keep for 1 more year lacks a lot dont think he will make it. get something back now before it is too late
nahas trade might have a little value to a team closer than us
white trade/delist 11 games to show something
king delist if he keeps up the last 3 weeks form i year contract

rookie list
gilligan time to try another rookie
roberts (i havnt seen anything worth keeping)
gourdis upgrade or delist enough time on the list now its either yes or no

i would also trade 1 of mcguane moore thursfield