Conspiracy Theory James Holmes, aka the batman killings

[Duritz]

Now, at first glance the shootings in Colorado in July 2012 look pretty cut and dried. This guy James Holmes went to a 12:30 showing of the new Batman renewal, "The Dark Knight rises", and shot the place up, killing 12 and wounding many more. The Wikipedia page details it well enough -

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_Aurora_shooting

However, what you won't read in there is the conspiracy theories behind it. At least, not in any sense greater than the perfunctory.

Many are claiming that not only was he not yet another "lone nutter", but that - like Sirhan Sirhan - he may be yet another victim of the CIA's mkultra program, a mind control program started in the 60's that is reportedly still going, although under a black cover.

Holmes jailers have reported that he is confused as to why he is in prison, and cannot remember the event. The police describe him as detached, remote, and in court he appears drugged.

So, what's happening here? Just another "lone nutter" like all the others before him, or - like sirhan sirhan - is there more to this?

 

[Duritz]

Further, many witnesses are reporting that he did not act alone. Where is the other gunman? Wa he a CIA plant? Where is he now? Was this just a false flag to inhibit the US citizens gun owning rights? Are they merely trying to take away people's rights even further?

 

[ablett]

On his way there he called into Sand Hook Elemenatary School & did a number there too.
He couldn't even speak in court he was drugged up that much, research his link with Adam Lazar's dad.

 

[The Slitherin' Snake]

On his way there he called into Sand Hook Elemenatary School & did a number there too.
He couldn't even speak in court he was drugged up that much, research his link with Adam Lazar's dad.

I truly hope this is sarcastic

 

[Present Not Past]

James Holmes is not normal. He is a very sick human being. That's why he is confused.
Normal people don't dress up in combat gear and carry out a mass shooting at their local cinema.
He is detached and remote because he is very unwell.

 

[Duritz]

James Holmes is not normal. He is a very sick human being. That's why he is confused.
Normal people don't dress up in combat gear and carry out a mass shooting at their local cinema.
He is detached and remote because he is very unwell.

To play Devils advocate here, a person might do those things because they have been drugged. The mkultra lsd experiments have proven this. There was a police officer who was drugged at a party by a cia agent as part of the mkultra program, unknowingly, and he then got into a terrible state of mind that led to him going to a bar and robbing it at gunpoint. The officer lost his job, his reputation, narrowly avoided a prison sentence, and for nearly four decades had no idea why he had such a brain snap. Recently they found out he'd been an unwitting victim of the cia.

I'm not saying that's necessarily what has happened to Holmes, but I am suggesting we do not know what the cia do, and that frankly they are an evil organisation. Kennedy threatened to "scatter the cia to the wind" shortly before he was shot. These government security people obsessed with control and power are a bad thing for humanity. RFK said about the Cuban missile crisis, and I paraphrase here, that JFK had "10 men advising him, all good, decent, hard working men but if any six of them had been president the world would be blown up now."

 

[Werewolf]

To play Devils advocate here, a person might do those things because they have been drugged. The mkultra lsd experiments have proven this. There was a police officer who was drugged at a party by a cia agent as part of the mkultra program, unknowingly, and he then got into a terrible state of mind that led to him going to a bar and robbing it at gunpoint. The officer lost his job, his reputation, narrowly avoided a prison sentence, and for nearly four decades had no idea why he had such a brain snap. Recently they found out he'd been an unwitting victim of the cia.

I've heard about stuff like that. Do you have a link to that story? I remember watching a TV show where Derren Brown (?) hypnotised some guy into shooting blanks at Stephen Fry. Basically he took a bunch of people, worked out who was most susceptible to hypnosis and trained him as an "assassin" who had no control over (or recollection of) his actions. Can't recall the details, but it was fascinating.

 

[Duritz]

I've heard about stuff like that. Do you have a link to that story? I remember watching a TV show where Derren Brown (?) hypnotised some guy into shooting blanks at Stephen Fry. Basically he took a bunch of people, worked out who was most susceptible to hypnosis and trained him as an "assassin" who had no control over (or recollection of) his actions. Can't recall the details, but it was fascinating.

I would like to see that show, if you can find a link to it online?

Details re mkultra and that policeman -

http://www.sfweekly.com/sanfrancisc...osed-sf-citizens-with-lsd/Content?oid=2184385

 

[Werewolf]

I would like to see that show, if you can find a link to it online?

The short TL;DW version - the end of the episode which shows the results:



The entire episode. No drugs involved, just hypnosis done really well:

 

[Present Not Past]

To play Devils advocate here, a person might do those things because they have been drugged. The mkultra lsd experiments have proven this. There was a police officer who was drugged at a party by a cia agent as part of the mkultra program, unknowingly, and he then got into a terrible state of mind that led to him going to a bar and robbing it at gunpoint. The officer lost his job, his reputation, narrowly avoided a prison sentence, and for nearly four decades had no idea why he had such a brain snap. Recently they found out he'd been an unwitting victim of the cia.

I'm not saying that's necessarily what has happened to Holmes, but I am suggesting we do not know what the cia do, and that frankly they are an evil organisation. Kennedy threatened to "scatter the cia to the wind" shortly before he was shot. These government security people obsessed with control and power are a bad thing for humanity. RFK said about the Cuban missile crisis, and I paraphrase here, that JFK had "10 men advising him, all good, decent, hard working men but if any six of them had been president the world would be blown up now."

You have to ask yourself why would the CIA set this up? Was it to create a scenario where the US public would call for greater gun control? Has that succeeded? Did anybody in the CIA think that this would succeed? If not, then why set it up?
The more likely scenario is that because of the gun laws in the US, a man on the edge of reality has easy access to a host murderous weapons and then acts out his killing fantasies.

 

[ablett]

James Holmes is not normal. He is a very sick human being. That's why he is confused.
Normal people don't dress up in combat gear and carry out a mass shooting at their local cinema.
He is detached and remote because he is very unwell.

He was fine before the CIA got a hold of him.

 

[The Slitherin' Snake]

On his way there he called into Sand Hook Elemenatary School & did a number there too.
He couldn't even speak in court he was drugged up that much, research his link with Adam Lazar's dad.

He was fine before the CIA got a hold of him.

Were the CIA responsible for his time travel so that he could perform the Sandy killings before being caught for the Batman ones?

 

[mdizzle]

This blonde boy suspected of the latest US shooting displayed a very similar facial expression to Holmes in the court, some pictures of Lanza, even Tsarnaev

That vacant, distant stare where the lights are on but there's clearly nobody home...

Some commentators have suggested that they've been drugged- Vice did a doco about a drug called scopolamine which is worth a watch: "Hailed in a recent Vice documentary as 'the world's scariest drug,' scopolamine is tasteless, odourless and has a reputation for being something of a 'zombie' drug -- meaning victims are still very much active while they're on it, remembering precious little of those activities the next day."
"Scopolamine does, however, have many legitimate uses -- from NASA using it to combat motion sickness"

US intelligence agencies have a demonstrable penchant for studying mind control (MK Ultra) and setting up false flags (where do you begin), and evidently have easy access to this disturbing drug

I'm sure a number of details from this case have yet to be reported, but this passage caught my eye:

"In an interview with NBC affiliate station WIS, a woman claiming to be Pinckney’s cousin relayed an account from a survivor in the room. She said that he had reloaded five different times and her son was trying to talk him out of doing that, killing people"

So he shot and killed nine people in a room with his handgun, but managed to reload the gun five times without anyone interrupting him? Surely reloading a handgun takes at least a couple of seconds each time? Although I am happy to be corrected here, don't have much experience with firearms

It's entirely possible this was another false flag. It's also possible a mentally unstable racist white kid shot nine black people in a gun-free zone in a church because he was pissed off. Will be interesting to see what comes out over the next few days

 

[Duritz]

The short TL;DW version - the end of the episode which shows the results:



The entire episode. No drugs involved, just hypnosis done really well:

Thanks, will watch.

 

[Duritz]

You have to ask yourself why would the CIA set this up? Was it to create a scenario where the US public would call for greater gun control? Has that succeeded? Did anybody in the CIA think that this would succeed? If not, then why set it up?
The more likely scenario is that because of the gun laws in the US, a man on the edge of reality has easy access to a host murderous weapons and then acts out his killing fantasies.

I agree with you, however it's not impossible that there was a setup.

 

[ablett]

You have to ask yourself why would the CIA set this up? Was it to create a scenario where the US public would call for greater gun control? Has that succeeded? Did anybody in the CIA think that this would succeed? If not, then why set it up?
The more likely scenario is that because of the gun laws in the US, a man on the edge of reality has easy access to a host murderous weapons and then acts out his killing fantasies.

So how did he get these weapons considering they were hi-tech military ones on his budget?

He supposably had an apartment rigged with all the latest highly sophisticated gadgets.

Not bad for a misfit menatlly deranged person?

You like trying to put people off the scent, a discipline shill you are.

No witnesses every accounted for Holmes at the scene, it's just another fear mothering hoax.

 

[Duritz]

So how did he get these weapons considering they were hi-tech military ones on his budget?

He supposably had an apartment rigged with all the latest highly sophisticated gadgets.

Not bad for a misfit menatlly deranged person?

You like trying to put people off the scent, a discipline shill you are.

No witnesses every accounted for Holmes at the scene, it's just another fear mothering hoax.

Apparently he did this all on a uni students budget.

And yet, with the smarts to do all that he goes to court and can't focus.

But the shills are right... Nothing to see here...

 

[Present Not Past]

So now the Charleston killings? CIA

 

[Pie in the Sky]

All of the weapons he bought are available legally. He received a 26,000 dollar grant for his PhD which might explain where he got the money from. And you can be both intelligent and mentally ill, the two aren't mutually exclusive. If the government or CIA or whoever are using these 'false flags' to restrict gun ownership in the USA they haven't been very successful, time for new tactics I think.

 

[CountryRace]

James Holmes is not normal. He is a very sick human being. That's why he is confused.
Normal people don't dress up in combat gear and carry out a mass shooting at their local cinema.
He is detached and remote because he is very unwell.

How did acid come to society?

The mind control stuff... They were not mucking around

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra

 

[ablett]

So now the Charleston killings? CIA

Only when you start defending them then we know they are.

 

[Present Not Past]

Only when you start defending them then we know they are.

You need me to tell you what to think? Try independent thinking and stop waiting on people to give you your ideas. Free your mind.

 

[ablett]

You need me to tell you what to think? Try independent thinking and stop waiting on people to give you your ideas. Free your mind.

Take your own advice would be a good start.
You must enjoy your life being planted on social forums to deter people from the truth.

 

[CM86]

Take your own advice would be a good start.
You must enjoy your life being planted on social forums to deter people from the truth.

Your username is "ablett" and you support Freo, not Geelong.

Looks like you're a plant who didn't do enough research into AFL.

 

[ablett]

Your username is "ablett" and you support Freo, not Geelong.

Looks like you're a plant who didn't do enough research into AFL.

So non Freo supporters can't/don't admire Fythe?

I'm a truth plant sowing the seeds for the open minded to expand their vision & see what's really happening.