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with aker set to leave the lions. would you be intrested in seeing him at the saints. also what do ou think we would have to trade to get him?

i personally would like to see aker come to the saints
 
Nick off said:
with aker set to leave the lions. would you be intrested in seeing him at the saints. also what do ou think we would have to trade to get him?

i personally would like to see aker come to the saints

hmmm ... off the field I can't stand this bloke & my initial response to this topic would be a definite no. However, he is awesome once he's out on the paddock & around goal. But, once a 5h1t stirrer, always .... I wouldn't see GT making a play for him, due to team cohesion, but u never know
 
i understand that thomas has worked hard to get rid of the trouble makers at saints, and he has changed te club for the better. but i feel that aker could be controlled by our leadership group quite easily, and mabey he would be grateful for the chance and wouldn't make much trouble. also he has had finals experience and can turn up the heat. i wouldn't want to get rid of a round one or round two draft pick so mabey the only way we could get him would be on a trade. mabey on or two of our fringe players.

discuss?
 
Nick off said:
i understand that thomas has worked hard to get rid of the trouble makers at saints, and he has changed te club for the better. but i feel that aker could be controlled by our leadership group quite easily, and mabey he would be grateful for the chance and wouldn't make much trouble. also he has had finals experience and can turn up the heat. i wouldn't want to get rid of a round one or round two draft pick so mabey the only way we could get him would be on a trade. mabey on or two of our fringe players.

discuss?

Akers other issues aside.

He turns 30 in Feb and has played 248 Games.

The club has previously stated on numerous occasions that they would not recruit a player who would not play 100 games for the Club.

I doubt that Aker would have another 100 games in him.
 

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he's washed up, still a good player but he hasn't been backing up his words in brisbane. he is too disgruntle, leaking storys and brisbane gameplans. i would much rather get micheal gardner for free than offer something for aker who will last 3 or 4 years max
 
pol06 said:
i would much rather get micheal gardner for free than offer something for aker who will last 3 or 4 years max

I am actually the other way round... I'd rather have a big mouth than gardiner.

The way I see it, Akermanis might still have 70-75 games in him and that's still not bad.
 
Aker would have no trouble at St Kilda and the media...... no game plan to leak under GT!!!players coach themselves....GT is just a puppet
 
Axcellence said:
I am actually the other way round... I'd rather have a big mouth than gardiner.

The way I see it, Akermanis might still have 70-75 games in him and that's still not bad.


Most players retire because they loose fitness or pace, Aker has lost neither

He says he has got 5 years left in him


Problem is price, no big $$$ comming off next year at the saints unless Harvey retires and only half his salary counts anyway, maybe if Hamil doesn't come up again although I think he will play at least next year


The other issue is what can we offer Brisbane
 
Wouldn't mind seeing Acker at St Kilda next year, but would be depedent on many factors.

Since Acker's last outburst he has all but guaranted that he will be leaving Brisbane at the end of the year. With that it means that we might not have to give up all that much. Brisbane no longer have much to negotiate with becuase ifthey don't find a trade for him he will go into the PSD and they will lose him for nothing. Therefore, it is basically going to be whoever gives Brisbane the highest bid and the highest bid might be a 2nd or even a 3rd round draft pick.

A positive with him is that we can be fairly sure that he is going to produce on the field unlike Michael Gardiner whose body and form is questionable. Would prefer Acker to Gardiner because you could find that if we picked Gardiner his body might fail him and his form wont be good enough anyway.

Something that should also be taken into consideration is that a lot of Acker's outbursts have been because of his spate with Matthews. If he could start off on a good note with Grant Thomas he wouldn't have near as much negative press to say about the club.

If all things went well Acker could prove to be a still. However, that is still a big if.
 
gardiners form has been good in the wafl and hasnt been bad in the last few weeks for west coast. if my memory is correct hasnt aker had a bit of a go at grant thomas in the media before, im not sure if thats corect or not but i think i can recall hearing him slag his coaching ability
 
A few people on the main board have said that we would be one of the better clubs for Acker. He would definately be a good player to have in our midfield and would definately help our percieved slow midfield. What are your thoughts?
 
pol06 said:
gardiners form has been good in the wafl and hasnt been bad in the last few weeks for west coast. if my memory is correct hasnt aker had a bit of a go at grant thomas in the media before, im not sure if thats corect or not but i think i can recall hearing him slag his coaching ability


He had a crack at us for letting no balls(Knobel) go. Akers wife is a cousin of no balls.
 

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the whole thing is academic. st Kilda have said that they dont want Aker, Luke Ballis particularly adamant that they wont take him, and Roo said on the footy show that thery won't have "a destabilising character like jason." Nathan brown said the same thing, but Hirdy said that if sheeds thinks acker can do thinkgs for essendon (and at the moment even Zac Dawson can do things for essendon) then they'll go after him.
 
i think what the players say and what goes on behind the scenes are completly different thing. i would love the see the aker of two years ago come to saints. but the change and his current form make it a gamble. seeing as most factors point to us not getting him. what other trades o we think may occur for the saints
 
nicko016 said:
Since Acker's last outburst he has all but guaranted that he will be leaving Brisbane at the end of the year. With that it means that we might not have to give up all that much. Brisbane no longer have much to negotiate with becuase ifthey don't find a trade for him he will go into the PSD and they will lose him for nothing.

No they won't. Jason Akermanis is contracted to the Brisbane Lions for 2007. If a suitable trade can't be found for Akermanis, then there are two choices.
1) Akermanis stands out of football for a year, until his contract runs out.
2) Jason Akermanis plays for the Brisbane Lions and fulfils his contract and then is traded or goes into the PSD at the end of 2007.

nicko016 said:
Therefore, it is basically going to be whoever gives Brisbane the highest bid and the highest bid might be a 2nd or even a 3rd round draft pick.

Leigh Matthews is an extremely pragmatic coach. If the Lions don't get what they want for Akermanis, then its' extremely likely that he'll be playing for the Lions in 2007, irrespective of the supposed current relationship. Both Akermanis and the Brisbane Lions will sit down at the end of the season to talk about their future.
 
Roylion said:
No they won't. Jason Akermanis is contracted to the Brisbane Lions for 2007. If a suitable trade can't be found for Akermanis, then there are two choices.
1) Akermanis stands out of football for a year, until his contract runs out.
2) Jason Akermanis plays for the Brisbane Lions and fulfils his contract and then is traded or goes into the PSD at the end of 2007.



Leigh Matthews is an extremely pragmatic coach. If the Lions don't get what they want for Akermanis, then its' extremely likely that he'll be playing for the Lions in 2007, irrespective of the supposed current relationship. Both Akermanis and the Brisbane Lions will sit down at the end of the season to talk about their future.

I can see Brisbane paying him out and not playing him only if they don't loose another required player and don't want to trade for someone. I find this unlikely as I think they are near the limit and having a spare 250 to 400K would help any team
 
Qsaint said:
I can see Brisbane paying him out and not playing him only if they don't loose another required player and don't want to trade for someone. I find this unlikely as I think they are near the limit and having a spare 250 to 400K would help any team

Why do you think they are near the limit? Already Justin Leppitsch's heavily backloaded contract, believed to be $300,000+, that was to be completed at the end of 2007, now won't be included for next season. That's freed up a considerable amount of salary cap space. In fact if Brad Scott, Chris Scott (another heavily backloaded contract) and Clark Keating all retire, the Lions could be looking at over half a million dollars spare under the salary cap. That's before Akermanis' contract of roughly $400,000 is included.
 

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