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I less vet definitely allows a rookie to come up I think. But nobody would force Burns to retire so Toover could get a game a year ahead of time.
 
Dunst said:
If burns retires a spot will not open on the list as he is on the veterans list, he's not on the main list.

Trade for a senior ruckmen , use a pick to draft one a good one this time.

Richards is not the answer as he offers nothing around the ground.

Get cam fit and he would be a good second ruckman.

And by the way what makes you think we are gunna have a shot at the big one anytime soon.

We have beaten no good sides atm.

I never said we were going to have a short.. i said i HOPE we'll be having a shot. That is afterall what this whole league is all about isnt it? We might almost be good enough to start thinking about it. Next month will show.

I can tell u theres more ppl thinking about premierships now than there were after round 7 2002.
 
If there are pie people out there who are thinking a flag than they need to stop.

Seriously when we beat someone decent come talk to me but not before.
 
Once again you've missed my point.

I didnt say THIS year.

But i think you'll find that people are always thinking flag in the next few years.

Even if we were sitting 16th i'd wanna be in a position to have a crack in 5 years.
 

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Jason if he has too should use his run off HB and plug holes in defence when he need a 2-1 contest for opposition forwards that are causing us problems. BUT, he needs to be accountable, needs to be able to take a mark and back himself, he just needs more playing time to settle into the side.
 
Every club aims for or thinks they can win a flag within 5 years.

I fail to see what we have done to get people to think we are a flag chance now or in the future.
 
FadeAway said:
Jason if he has too should use his run off HB and plug holes in defence when he need a 2-1 contest for opposition forwards that are causing us problems. BUT, he needs to be accountable, needs to be able to take a mark and back himself, he just needs more playing time to settle into the side.

He's not accountable and never has been.

Far too slow, provides no run from the back half.

I cant see anywhere to settle him in the side.
 
Dunst said:
Every club aims for or thinks they can win a flag within 5 years.

I fail to see what we have done to get people to think we are a flag chance now or in the future.
and what do you suggest we aim for in the next 5 years?
 
Dunst said:
He's not accountable and never has been.

Far too slow, provides no run from the back half.

I cant see anywhere to settle him in the side.
He plays his best AFL footy accountable.
In the VFL he is able to both beat his man and be the 3rd man at the contests. He has improved his kicking, but doesn't take enough risks by foot.
He is behind Maxwell, O'Brien, Wakelin, Clement who all can and do play his role and do it better.

Iacobucci >> Swan at the same time in his career. Give him time.
 
Dunst said:
Every club aims for or thinks they can win a flag within 5 years.

I fail to see what we have done to get people to think we are a flag chance now or in the future.

Well we may as well just not exist and pack up our bags right now and fold as a club if that is the case....pretty pointless to be playing if we dont think or give ourselves a chance at the flag and i dont want to be a club that just makes up numbers
 

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