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BOMBERSG8 said:
Can you name one player that can hold down that position 4 the whole year

Jason Cloke is useless as hip pockets on a singlet, his only good footy was played as a loose man on the last line of defence.:thumbsdown:

We'd be better of chasing Polak or Bradshaw.
 

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Longy413 said:
I don't think he's all that bad, I think he cops an unfair deal because of his name.

That being said, he's not a CHB.

Whats wrong with the name Jason? I don't think it is a bad name...
 
If you can afford to let him play to his strengths, which is drifting around the backline, reading the play well enough to take plenty of defensive marks he's okay. However he struggles to look after a man so it's hard to see him being a CHB, and as such we REALLY need a CHB who can restrict his direct opponent. We have McPhee to do the Cloke thing.
 
yeah well i heard from a former collingwood player that the clokes are arrogant wa--ers, and on that proviso we have said we will only draft good quality people to our club.

Also as mentioned earlier he gets found out when manned up and after the 2004 grand final doesn't live up to pressures of the big games.

I think we should pursue polak or thornton, id even go to say we should have a crack at tarrant and use his mobility around the ground, with him and luca on either sides of the flanks they could possibly play as extra tall midfielders. It may even help that tarrant and soloman are back together as team mates.
 

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No thanks,
but if does come to Essendon,I'm sure we would grow to like him..:(

Bradshaw would be alright,
but he'll be 28-29?
A few years left in him you would hope.
I think Brisbane will keep bugging him to sign up again..
but if he wants to return to Melb..you just never know..
 
Could never grow to like Cloke.

He is the most useless player. He is a defender that can't play on a man. And he's not skilled enough to burn the opposition the other way.
 
Well, we're in very nice position. Not only in the national draft but in the pre-season draft. We're going to two REALLY talented kids plus a couple of very good trades.

I would go for Cloke over Bradshaw as a CHB. Bradshaw is a prodiminately a FF in my opinion. He doesn't have the build to consistently play CHB for the next 4-5 years. What is he, say coming onto 30? You can't start playing CHB consistently at the age of 28-30. Especially whilst moving clubs.

Cloke was obviously a very good player. He was the CHB in two final series where Collingwood were quite close to snaring a flag off Brisbane. Sure, he hasn't had the greatest of seasons but then again he could be a good plus to our backline. We really do need another CHB. Lee will take time to come through as will Keplar. It will be interesting to see which way Sheedy goes in the pre-season draft.

Amongst all our hate for Cloke (as he is from Collingwood) lets face it, he could become a very good player at the Bombers.

Thornton isn't an option i don't think. If Carlton gave him up it would be a joke.

And finally, Polak. I would love to see this guy down at the Bombers. He reads the game quite well and is a real talent with many years ahead of him.

Between all three being Bradshaw, Cloke, Polak, i'd go for Polak just ahead of Cloke. Polak would be more suited to Sheedy's structure.

Possibly we will give up the likes of Solly and Bolton (if we can get anything for them) plus a couple of young guys for whatever trades we decide to make. I can't wait for trade week.
 
Jasiano said:
Well, we're in very nice position. Not only in the national draft but in the pre-season draft. We're going to two REALLY talented kids plus a couple of very good trades.

I would go for Cloke over Bradshaw as a CHB. Bradshaw is a prodiminately a FF in my opinion. He doesn't have the build to consistently play CHB for the next 4-5 years. What is he, say coming onto 30? You can't start playing CHB consistently at the age of 28-30. Especially whilst moving clubs.

Cloke was obviously a very good player. He was the CHB in two final series where Collingwood were quite close to snaring a flag off Brisbane. Sure, he hasn't had the greatest of seasons but then again he could be a good plus to our backline. We really do need another CHB. Lee will take time to come through as will Keplar. It will be interesting to see which way Sheedy goes in the pre-season draft.

Amongst all our hate for Cloke (as he is from Collingwood) lets face it, he could become a very good player at the Bombers.

Thornton isn't an option i don't think. If Carlton gave him up it would be a joke.

And finally, Polak. I would love to see this guy down at the Bombers. He reads the game quite well and is a real talent with many years ahead of him.

Between all three being Bradshaw, Cloke, Polak, i'd go for Polak just ahead of Cloke. Polak would be more suited to Sheedy's structure.

Possibly we will give up the likes of Solly and Bolton (if we can get anything for them) plus a couple of young guys for whatever trades we decide to make. I can't wait for trade week.

He doesn't have the build to consistently play CHB for the next 4-5 years.

Mate, if he doesnt have the build to play CHB, then who does, hes built like a tank and is probably 6ft2-4...i don't know for sure, cbf looking it up

Cloke was obviously a very good player. He was the CHB in two final series where Collingwood were quite close to snaring a flag off Brisbane. Sure, he hasn't had the greatest of seasons but then again he could be a good plus to our backline. We really do need another CHB

Cloke had 1 good year, where he was a loose floating backman who was usually the third man up to spoil and help team mates.
Once other clubs worked out how he played and manned up on him or dragged him to another position, he bacame redundant.
He has had 2 really poor years in a row now and imo is extremely average.

Thornton isn't an option i don't think. If Carlton gave him up it would be a joke.

I doubt we will get him, but if Essendon believe he can help our backline, we should do everything we can to either force them to trade him or get him in the PSD.
I'm not sure if he can play CHB, but he is a very very good FB and is 22.
Instant replacement for Fletcher, but i hope that is a looong way off

GO GET THORNTON
 
Merv Neagle said:
Mate, if he doesnt have the build to play CHB, then who does, hes built like a tank and is probably 6ft2-4...i don't know for sure, cbf looking it up



Cloke had 1 good year, where he was a loose floating backman who was usually the third man up to spoil and help team mates.
Once other clubs worked out how he played and manned up on him or dragged him to another position, he bacame redundant.
He has had 2 really poor years in a row now and imo is extremely average.



I doubt we will get him, but if Essendon believe he can help our backline, we should do everything we can to either force them to trade him or get him in the PSD.
I'm not sure if he can play CHB, but he is a very very good FB and is 22.
Instant replacement for Fletcher, but i hope that is a looong way off

GO GET THORNTON


Dont be surprise if a one J Cloke ends up a Richmond
 

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mickyt888 said:
we dont need a chb! are draft pick 2 will be more than enough to cover that.

So you expect a 17 or 18 year old kid to come in and play CHB straight away?
You have no idea mate

BTW, the word is our not are
 
Merv Neagle said:
Mate, if he doesnt have the build to play CHB, then who does, hes built like a tank and is probably 6ft2-4...i don't know for sure, cbf looking it up



Cloke had 1 good year, where he was a loose floating backman who was usually the third man up to spoil and help team mates.
Once other clubs worked out how he played and manned up on him or dragged him to another position, he bacame redundant.
He has had 2 really poor years in a row now and imo is extremely average.



I doubt we will get him, but if Essendon believe he can help our backline, we should do everything we can to either force them to trade him or get him in the PSD.
I'm not sure if he can play CHB, but he is a very very good FB and is 22.
Instant replacement for Fletcher, but i hope that is a looong way off

GO GET THORNTON
Bradshaw has played his best footy at FF. You don't recruit a FF to play consistenly at CHB. You just don't do it.

Don't be so smug about Cloke as well. The guy has talent and look at what McPhee has done off half back since Sheedy saw he had talent and recruited him. I reckon Cloke could do the same.
He had more than one good season, don't be so harsh just because he plays for Collingwood.

Thornton, sure, i would want to recruit him. However, why would Carlton give him up? They won't, there is NO WAY they would end up giving him up unless they got a very good quality defender through a different trade.
 

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