And this is exactly it...In the AFL self reporting is good enough to avoid a drugs strike.
If they gave a s**t about player welfare in this space lying isn't a good message to send when engaging an individual in drug rehabilitation
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And this is exactly it...In the AFL self reporting is good enough to avoid a drugs strike.
This is a good point , I guess he wasn't as Jeremy would have mentioned thisduring discussions but as i understand the AFL integrity department never even spoke to Jeremy as of yesterday. Whereas I'm sure they spoke to clarko over a coffee post his slur.Janey's comment about provocation was in response to Lauren Wood's comparison of the Finlayson and Clarkson situations where she said:
“Then they looked at the provocation. Finlayson was basically unprovoked, Clarkson’s situation, the environment was highly charged, he had St Kilda players coming at him (after the Jimmy Webster bump), he was going back at them.”
In this case it is entirely reasonable to ask the question was Finlayson provoked and if so, how?
It is a clear double standard. The sad part for the queer community, and for football in general, is that most people will remember the backlash the AFL face for their double standard when it comes to sanctions, not the penalty Finlayson received. Particularly with the response from Walsh and the AFLPA.This is a good point , I guess he wasn't as Jeremy would have mentioned thisduring discussions but as i understand the AFL integrity department never even spoke to Jeremy as of yesterday. Whereas I'm sure they spoke to clarko over a coffee post his slur.
On a more glaring point though , why should provocation matter when it comes to homophobic slurs? Wasn't this the same argument the AFL made when Clarkson punched a Port supporter in the head after a game? He was " provoked "
We should accept the penalty and move on from that.
What we should be outraged about is that Port (and particularly Port's indigenous players) are routinely used as the precedent setters (indeed, some would say the scapegoats) for stances the AFL wish to take. Proof:
2005 Byron Pickett's bump gets an (at the time) unprecedented 6 week ban where many previous cases did not. To that point you could get half hour videos showcasing white, Victorian based players performing bumps of similar ilk that went unpunished
2015 Sam Powell-Pepper's minor night club indiscretion attracts an AFL investigation and penalty but later, De Goey is charged with sexual assault and even after he reaches a financial settlement with his victim, no AFL investigation is launched or penalty is imposed
2024 Sam Powell-Pepper's reflex bump gets 4 games as a precedent setter while Maynard's reflex bump which ends a player's career virtually 3 games earlier goes unpunished
2024 Jeremy Finlayson saying "f*****" gets 3 games while shortly before Angry Midget Clarkson's equally homophobic "c***sucker" comment gets no immediate suspension. This is despite Clarkson's many previous misdemeanours and the fact that his comments crossed the taboo line of player official interaction and were therefore worse (as I said above compare Player A grabbing opposition Player B by the scruff of the neck to Player A grabbing opposition Coach B by the scruff of the neck or Coach B grabbing opposition Player A by the scruff of the neck- that's what makes Clarkson's act 10 times worse than Finlayson's).
I do not debate the penalties handed out to the 4 Port indigenous players in any of the above cases. I simply call out the hypocrisy that lies behind the AFL's position. They wait until an indigenous player from a "smaller" non Victorian club transgresses before making a stance on
Not to mention the close call of SPP getting a week for tackling Ben McEvoy. No sling, no double action, no medical report - McEvoy got up immediately, took the next ruck contest and played out the game.We should accept the penalty and move on from that.
What we should be outraged about is that Port (and particularly Port's indigenous players) are routinely used as the precedent setters (indeed, some would say the scapegoats) for stances the AFL wish to take. Proof:
2005 Byron Pickett's bump gets an (at the time) unprecedented 6 week ban where many previous cases did not. To that point you could get half hour videos showcasing white, Victorian based players performing bumps of similar ilk that went unpunished
2015 Sam Powell-Pepper's minor night club indiscretion attracts an AFL investigation and penalty but later, De Goey is charged with sexual assault and even after he reaches a financial settlement with his victim, no AFL investigation is launched or penalty is imposed
2024 Sam Powell-Pepper's reflex bump gets 4 games as a precedent setter while Maynard's reflex bump which ends a player's career virtually 3 games earlier goes unpunished
2024 Jeremy Finlayson saying "f*****" gets 3 games while shortly before Angry Midget Clarkson's equally homophobic "c***sucker" comment gets no immediate suspension. This is despite Clarkson's many previous misdemeanours and the fact that his comments crossed the taboo line of player official interaction and were therefore worse (as I said above compare Player A grabbing opposition Player B by the scruff of the neck to Player A grabbing opposition Coach B by the scruff of the neck or Coach B grabbing opposition Player A by the scruff of the neck- that's what makes Clarkson's act 10 times worse than Finlayson's).
I do not debate the penalties handed out to the 4 Port indigenous players in any of the above cases. I simply call out the hypocrisy that lies behind the AFL's position. They wait until an indigenous player from a "smaller" non Victorian club transgresses before making a stance on issues.
For the Essendon players to go hard on Jeremy in the investigation and the 3 weeks suspension. I think maybe the victim is gay and JF knew it. That’s the only scenario that fits the punishment.
Also the player (rightly) not being named makes this plausible.
If that is true (and I'm not saying it is), then Finlayson is very lucky it was 3 and not 6.For the Essendon players to go hard on Jeremy in the investigation and the 3 weeks suspension. I think maybe the victim is gay and JF knew it. That’s the only scenario that fits the punishment.
Anybody who has followed port in the last two decades knows the afl is racist.Excuse the intrusion. WhenI looked at these incidents in isolation I was fairly confident that punishments were not being given due to the fact that players are Aboriginal. I actually commented on this during the SPP suspension. Looking at the pattern presented though there seems to be an indication that perhaps Aboriginal players are being made scapegoats which is fairly symbolic of what has taken place to many Aboriginals over the past two hundred years.
I reckon people overlook the threat of violence in Walkers sledge. That to me makes his worse.Have to feel he would’ve gotten a bigger suspension if that were the case. Tex got six after he said something directly pointed at Robbie Young’s skin colour. Half of that suspension if it’s not pointed at someone in the group mentioned would actually make a lot of sense.
I never got to find out the exact words he said, which I assume is the case for a lot of people, so I never knew that. If I’m allowed to ask on here, does anyone know the specifics of what he said in that case (minus the exact slur used I suppose)?I reckon people overlook the threat of violence in Walkers sledge. That to me makes his worse.
Not really. Three weeks is fair whether the victim is or isnt gay.
I never got to find out the exact words he said, which I assume is the case for a lot of people, so I never knew that. If I’m allowed to ask on here, does anyone know the specifics of what he said in that case (minus the exact slur used I suppose)?
Sorry, I somehow had you confused with 240volt.