Kane Tenace

[tayls]

Though i would post my thoughts on him, i rate him.

Now he is coming into his 3rd season i really think he needs to look at becoming an onballer. With a big pre season under his belt he has the attributes to do it, plus it will inject some real pace into the midfield.

Now i believe we should groom him as a tagger. In the way Lingy was. What this would do is teach him to play in the midfield for starters by playing on the better midfielders, his pace can be used to get kicks as well. As he learns more and becomes better he can move into becoming a genuine midfielder. Also i believe the tagging role will help him with his contested ball winning, not saying he is soft, he isn't.

This sort of thing has been done with many players who have gone on to become class midfielders such as Kane Cornes, Lingy, Brady Rawlings, Brodie Holland, Paul Licuria and Brett Kirk. I believe Kane can become one of them.

He just needs to learn and i believe this is the way he can do it.

 

[jim boy]

I was pretty happy with the way he progressed, went from being borderline at the start of the year to a regular start at the end and always had a dip.

I expect him to progress a lot more though.

 

[Unwritten_Law]

This sort of thing has been done with many players who have gone on to become class midfielders such as Kane Cornes, Lingy, Brady Rawlings, Brodie Holland, Paul Licuria and Brett Kirk. I believe Kane can become one of them

As a group I can think of two attributes those blokes lack, Kane might be struggling a little with one of those but the other he would be in the top few % in the AFL.

I really don't think Kane is the sort of player you want to do this with, I think the approach would better served with Brent Prismall.

 

[tayls]

I really don't think Kane is the sort of player you want to do this with, I think the approach would better served with Brent Prismall.

I disagree, i think he could use that experience to better himself. Maybe Prismall in 2007 after Kane has done it for a year and moves to be more a genuine on baller.

 

[Turbocat]

I understand you train of thought , Tayls although Im not sure I totally agree.

I think all players must look at what they bring to the table as a part of the mix. For me Tenace is a bit like an early Ricco with the polished footskills.He is one of the few guys we have that is capable of breaking the lines with speed.Most of the guys you have mentioned lack that natural offensive speed but have leant to be very good players within their role parameters.

Tenace could be used this way and may well learn from it but I would like to see if we could develop a 20 goal a year player from him.He should continue to work on his dispossal on the run, if he could become a guy who kicks the 80M goal(30M run/50 Kick) it helps us break the mobile one on one modern day football style and it gives other sides an alt player to worry about.

 

[tayls]

I understand you train of thought , Tayls although Im not sure I totally agree.

I think all players must look at what they bring to the table as a part of the mix. For me Tenace is a bit like an early Ricco with the polished footskills.He is one of the few guys we have that is capable of breaking the lines with speed.Most of the guys you have mentioned lack that natural offensive speed but have leant to be very good players within their role parameters.

Tenace could be used this way and may well learn from it but I would like to see if we could develop a 20 goal a year player from him.He should continue to work on his dispossal on the run, if he could become a guy who kicks the 80M goal(30M run/50 Kick) it helps us break the mobile one on one modern day football style and it gives other sides an alt player to worry about.

I was thinking of it more as a learnig curve for him to become a better on baller in the long run. I see him as a midfielder not a forward. I think his speed through the midfield would be beneficial as that is something lacking a bit. Playing as a midfielder doesnt stop him from kicking goals though.

 

[ben_cats_fan]

I was thinking of it more as a learnig curve for him to become a better on baller in the long run. I see him as a midfielder not a forward. I think his speed through the midfield would be beneficial as that is something lacking a bit. Playing as a midfielder doesnt stop him from kicking goals though.

Woja's back next year... Maybe run Tenace of the HBF and put woja into the midfield a bit more?

 

[Turbocat]

I was thinking of it more as a learnig curve for him to become a better on baller in the long run. I see him as a midfielder not a forward. I think his speed through the midfield would be beneficial as that is something lacking a bit. Playing as a midfielder doesnt stop him from kicking goals though.

I too see him as a mid ,with the potential of being an offensive goal kicking mid. He hasnt shown much in the way Kelly has to give one an indicator that he may be a marking forward or the creativity of a Dog Johnson
The secret to kicking more goals in todays footy is goal kicking mids and talented mid sized forwards. Can anyone name our goal kicking mid. Im not talking the Kelly,Bartel, Ablett, Chapman - mark and goal, more the way Akermanis or Judd kicks most of his goals with the ball in tranistion, gather the ball run the 15 and goal.
Really im not sure we really have anyone who has the combination natural finish and speed.Ricco when he was younger but now ??Ablett in full flight would be our best option but thats why he gets the full turtle treatment from his opponent If Tenace can work on his kicks over 40M he will give us another option.

 

[WestCat]

Woja's back next year... Maybe run Tenace of the HBF and put woja into the midfield a bit more?

Don't expect too much from Bomber until the second half of next year, it takes a lot to get over a knee reco and he probably won't be at full pace until well into next season if at all.

 

[GeeCat]

The secret to kicking more goals in todays footy is goal kicking mids and talented mid sized forwards. Can anyone name our goal kicking mid. Im not talking the Kelly,Bartel, Ablett, Chapman - mark and goal, more the way Akermanis or Judd kicks most of his goals with the ball in tranistion, gather the ball run the 15 and goal.

Perhaps I'm wavering off topic here or just agreeing and repeating your points Turbo, but I don't think it's within our current midfield make-up where we have capable 'finishes' within the engine room.

Just looking at previous years, teams like Brisbane, and perhaps more recently, West Coast, have a group of 4-5 midfield players capable of doing that finishing work.

During the Brisbane era of dominance, they had guys like Akermanis, Power, Black, and for one year Headland, who were all capable of doing that finishing work in front of goal. West Coast had the likes of Cousins, Judd, Fletcher, and Embley to do likewise.

With our current midfield make-up however, I think it's slightly unfair to be comparing, or placing the same expectations on our group to that of Brisbane and West Coast. For one, our gameplan's appear to function differently.

It's hard to put together a midfield consisting of the talents of Brisbane's, but in regard to West Coast, they have to depend alot on their midfield to run forward of the ball every oppurtunity they get and provide the goal-scoring as opposed to our 'feed the leading forwards' game style.

Unless our gameplan changes, I don't think we'll be having the likes of Corey, Ling, etc kicking 15-20 goals a season, whether or not they are capable of the feat. Perhaps the same can be said of Kane.

 

[WestCat]

Perhaps I'm wavering off topic here or just agreeing and repeating your points Turbo, but I don't think it's within our current midfield make-up where we have capable 'finishes' within the engine room.

Just looking at previous years, teams like Brisbane, and perhaps more recently, West Coast, have a group of 4-5 midfield players capable of doing that finishing work.

During the Brisbane era of dominance, they had guys like Akermanis, Power, Black, and for one year Headland, who were all capable of doing that finishing work in front of goal. West Coast had the likes of Cousins, Judd, Fletcher, and Embley to do likewise.

With our current midfield make-up however, I think it's slightly unfair to be comparing, or placing the same expectations on our group to that of Brisbane and West Coast. For one, our gameplan's appear to function differently.

It's hard to put together a midfield consisting of the talents of Brisbane's, but in regard to West Coast, they have to depend alot on their midfield to run forward of the ball every oppurtunity they get and provide the goal-scoring as opposed to our 'feed the leading forwards' game style.

Unless our gameplan changes, I don't think we'll be having the likes of Corey, Ling, etc kicking 15-20 goals a season, whether or not they are capable of the feat. Perhaps the same can be said of Kane.

Our guys don't stack up too badly against the Eagles:

Cousins - 24 goals
Embley - 24
Fletcher - 17
Judd - 15

We have
Ablett - 29
Chapman - 29
Bartel - 18
Riccardi - 15

Dash had 15 and Kelly had 13 goals as well, so we're doing alright there. The big thing for the Eagles was that they got 22 goals out of Cox, which is very handy. If Kingy could kick around 15-20 as opposed to the 3 he kicked this year, we'd have the same sort of advantage there. We probably need Corey and Ling to have a bit more impact on the scoreboard though, Lingy did alright with 11, but Smithy kicked just the 5 this year. Look for more goals out of Tenace next year as well, he'll kick way more than his 3 from this year.

 

[WestCat]

And for comparison's sake, here are the Lions stats for their 3 premiership years:

03
Akermanis - 28
Power - 27
Voss - 20
Hart - 18
Caracella - 17

02
Akermanis - 49!!!
Voss - 36
Headland - 34
Power - 19
Black - 17

01
Akermanis - 28
Lappin - 26
Notting - 25
Black - 23
Voss - 21

02 they were unstoppable and not may teams can lay claim to getting anywhere near that good. No matter what people say about West Coast's midfield, I doubt they'll ever reach the heights the Lions did in 02. Apart from that year though, we match up alright, but are about 1 goal kicking midfielder behind them. Enter Kane Tenace