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Kevin Nash.."When wcw took over the WWE for the short time we did, it's bc Ted Turner paid HUGE $ for talent. Wanna put tna on the map, Mrs. Carter? Set aside $50m. Start with Cena and work backwards. Don't walk into a Mercedes showroom and ask what new AMG S-63 I can buy for $25K."

He does make a very valid point however i can make tna a great roster with 10 mil that can draw more fans and more money. tna big problem is spike tv. they don't promote tna at all and tna is their number 1 product. would love to see tna start over with this roster and a brand new marketting team.

Mainevent Scene

Kurt Angle (800,00)
Jeff Hardy (800,00 + 20% of merch total)
AJ Styles (700,00)
Christian (800,00)
Dolph Ziggler (500k)
Hernandez (500k)
John Morrison (600k)
ken anderson (500k)

5.2 mil for mainevent scene

Tag Team

Beer Money (300k each)
MCMG (200k each)
Gen me (150k each)
Moore and Helms (150K EACH)
Benjamin and Haas(150k each)

1.9 mil for tag divison


Midcarders (tv title scene)

Joe (300k)
pope (200k)
Kaz (150k)
Morgan(150k)
Wolfe (150k)

950k there


X Div

Bourne 250k
Lethall 125k
Red 125k
Davey Richards 125k
homicide (125k)
Alex Kozlov (100k)


(800k for x divison)


On air role ppl

JR Commentator + Exective(500k)
Don West Commentator+ Head of merch 100k
JB Interviewer and what he does now(100K


700k there
 
Kevin Nash should understand more than most that for some reason, once a wrestler leaves the WWE he falls off the planet.

WWE has not only monopolized the industry, it IS the industry.

All you need to do is look at Jeff Hardy. The biggest draw for a few months in the WWE, easily got the finest reactions and became a 3x World Champion, he has now fallen off the ****ing map in TNA. Has no $ worth whatsoever.

Even if John Cena moved to TNA, within a few months he will fall off the planet just like Booker T, RVD, Kurt Angle, Jeff Hardy and Hulk 'freaking!!' Hogan did.
 

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ROSEMVP said:
you would have to give cena atleast 15 mil a year for him to consider.
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And do you think others would be fine with him being paid $15million, and others sitting on $150k? It wouldn't work. They'd have to bump everybody up to stop them turning and running to WWE for better pay. So then you've got TNA paying all these guys far too much money, and not generating enough through tv deals, ppv buys and merch. It just doesn't work.
 
I don't think it's lack of awareness that is the problem with TNA. It's that it turns people off when they do try to watch it (see the short-lived ratings spikes of last year) and that it has such a bad reputation that some people won't give it a go at all.

The former can be fixed through producing a better product. The latter...I'm not sure if it will ever be possible to fix that damage. Cena doesn't come into it either way.
 
They have already really annoyed quuite a few guys on the roster with giving them appearance only based contracts.

Plus Rob Van Dam is probably the highest paid wrestler right now with his incredible short sighted contract TNA gave him, basically after X amount of dates he gets 10k per taping, and he's already past that amount, so they had to use him sparringly. He was headhunted into TNA, they paid out the ass then realised they couldnt afford to keep him on television every episode

Doesnt help when you give guys like Matt Hardy decent cheques as well rather then using the fact he's happy with his brother and give him a low base $$$

You also have to remember that giving over the hill wrestlers guarenteed $$$ eventually broke WCW when they started getting into trouble and Ted Turner wasnt able to push the huge $$$ into the company, while the WWE never headhunted in that time, but rather build up their own rosters

I know Homicide left due to he wasnt on television then they asked him to sign a contract where he would be paid per appearances, he's making more at ROH nowdays
 
Hawks1523 said:
And do you think others would be fine with him being paid $15million, and others sitting on $150k? It wouldn't work. They'd have to bump everybody up to stop them turning and running to WWE for better pay. So then you've got TNA paying all these guys far too much money, and not generating enough through tv deals, ppv buys and merch. It just doesn't work.
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just saying. i would not pay any wrestler that much when im starting a company. i was just saying you would have to give cena atleast that much.
 
I know Homicide left due to he wasnt on television then they asked him to sign a contract where he would be paid per appearances, he's making more at ROH nowdays
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Those pay per appearances is a good idea for new talent imo. like the ones you buy to use occasional appearances like Orlando Jordon. However don't use on the people have been for a few years and are regularly on tv. Didn't like homicide at all until his last few months in tna where he was a bad ass all the time. unfortunately Jan 4 Impact screwed him up when he had trouble getting out of the cage.

i gotta disagree about Matt Hardy, I think he will be a good signing. RVD has been terrible. He looks so slow these days and is overpaid. plus he was a horrible world champ. Jeff Hardy at the time should have got the belt.
 
Discounting guys who are already in the WWE system, I'd go in this direction with the TNA Roster:

Main Event (TNA World Heavyweight Championship) $500,000 each
  • AJ Styles
  • D'Angelo Dinero
  • Desmond Wolfe
  • Hernandez
  • Jeff Hardy
  • Matt Morgan
  • Mr. Anderson
  • Samoa Joe
Mid-Card (TNA World Television Championship) $250,000 each
  • Abyss
  • Brent Albright
  • Doug Williams
  • Eric Young
  • Gregory Helms
  • Kazarian
  • Matt Hardy
  • Roderick Strong
X-Division (TNA X-Division Championship) $250,000 each
  • Amazing Red
  • Brian Kendrick
  • Homicide
  • Jay Lethal
  • Low Ki
  • Masato Yoshino
  • Petey Williams
  • Super Crazy
Tag Team (TNA World Tag Team Championship) $250,000 each
  • The American Wolves (Davey Richards and Eddie Edwards)
  • Beer Money (James Storm and Robert Roode)
  • The Briscoe Brothers (Jay Briscoe and Mark Briscoe)
  • Generation Me (Jeremy Buck and Max Buck)
  • Ink Inc. (Jesse Neal and Shannon Moore)
  • The Kings of Wrestling (Chris Hero and Claudio Castagnoli)
  • Motor City Machine Guns (Alex Shelley and Chris Sabin)
  • Wrestling's Greatest Tag Team (Charlie Haas and Shelton Benjamin)
Women's (TNA Knockout's Championship) $125,000 each
  • Angelina Love
  • Becky Bayless
  • Madison Rayne
  • Mickie James
  • MsChif
  • Sara Del Ray
  • Sarita
  • Winter
Commentators $125,000 each (get more airtime than anyone else, and have almost as much responsibility in putting over the wrestlers and their storylines as the in-ring performers do, so deserve a decent wage)
  • Mike Tenay
  • Taz
Format
  • Two 2-hour shows weekly (8 matches per show, two matches being tag matches). Talent on each show differs, but without a brand split (that is, if someone wrestles on one show, they might not have another match until the next week - rotate the roster to give everyone airtime).
  • One PPV per month.
  • No GMs/on-screen authority figures/power struggles. Been absolutely done to death in TNA. If you're not on the above roster, you're not seen/heard on TNA television.
 
It probably works best without pay ranges. Firstly because we don't really know what typical contracts are, secondly because we don't know TNA's revenue or expenses.

Just name a reasonable roster.
 
If they simply continued along the path they were going pre-Hogan, just slowly building a loyal hardcore fan base, in a few years they would be fine.

It's hard to promote yourself as an alternative, when you revert to your old ring and employ talent from the opposition again and again and again.

Absolutely no incentive to watch TNA these days.
 

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Damon_3388 said:
Discounting guys who are already in the WWE system, I'd go in this direction with the TNA Roster:

Main Event (TNA World Heavyweight Championship) $1,000,000 each

  • AJ Styles
  • D'Angelo Dinero
  • Desmond Wolfe
  • Hernandez
  • Jeff Hardy
  • Matt Morgan
  • Mr. Anderson
  • Samoa Joe
Mid-Card (TNA World Television Championship)$500,000 each
  • Abyss
  • Brent Albright
  • Doug Williams
  • Eric Young
  • Gregory Helms
  • Kazarian
  • Matt Hardy
  • Roderick Strong
X-Division (TNA X-Division Championship) $500,000 each
  • Amazing Red
  • Brian Kendrick
  • Homicide
  • Jay Lethal
  • Low Ki
  • Masato Yoshino
  • Petey Williams
  • Super Crazy
Tag Team (TNA World Tag Team Championship) $500,000 each
  • The American Wolves (Davey Richards and Eddie Edwards)
  • Beer Money (James Storm and Robert Roode)
  • The Briscoe Brothers (Jay Briscoe and Mark Briscoe)
  • Generation Me (Jeremy Buck and Max Buck)
  • Ink Inc. (Jesse Neal and Shannon Moore)
  • The Kings of Wrestling (Chris Hero and Claudio Castagnoli)
  • Motor City Machine Guns (Alex Shelley and Chris Sabin)
  • Wrestling's Greatest Tag Team (Charlie Haas and Shelton Benjamin)
Women's (TNA Knockout's Championship) $250,000 each
  • Angelina Love
  • Becky Bayless
  • Madison Rayne
  • Mickie James
  • MsChif
  • Sara Del Ray
  • Sarita
  • Winter
Commentators $125,000 each

  • Mike Tenay
  • Taz
Format

  • Two 2-hour shows weekly (8 matches per show, two matches being tag matches). Talent on each show differs, but without a brand split (that is, if someone wrestles on one show, they might not have another match until the next week - rotate the roster to give everyone airtime).
  • One PPV per month.
  • No GMs/on-screen authority figures/power struggles. Been absolutely done to death in TNA. If you're not on the above roster, you're not seen/heard on TNA television.
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You understand thats probably more money on talent then the WWE use, Edge is on about 800k a year Plus free hotels ect. While mid card guys would be on under 200k
 
delirious1 said:
You understand thats probably more money on talent then the WWE use, Edge is on about 800k a year Plus free hotels ect. While mid card guys would be on under 200k
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Panda Energy, the company that owns a 72% share of TNA, is worth more than 10 times what WWE is. They can afford to spend money if the investment looks like making a return, and with the right management, TNA can be a totally viable, credible 2nd option in US wrestling. Probably halving those salaries might be sensible, and you'd still be getting a good balance between worker satisfaction and value for your investment.

If you guarantee good money to young guys or guys coming in from the indies, without the likes of Hogan etc. looming over them and without bullshit storylines (like WCW), you're going to get a commitment from the wrestler as well. They know they've got a clear role on the show, are going to get airtime every week, and are going to be financially secure.

If they're opening the chequebook like that though, they've got to start small-ish IMO, not the way Nash is talking, as far as trying to lure a Cena type. Otherwise, it just turns into a WCW situation with veterans/upper card guys calling the shots, not working hard and holding the company back. Big stars don't mean shit without decent storylines. Just look at the mess TNA has been since Hogan came in. This way, you're giving younger guys a shot at being stars with nothing and nobody holding them back.

Anyway, money aside, what do people think of the roster I presented?
 
Ryz said:
If they simply continued along the path they were going pre-Hogan, just slowly building a loyal hardcore fan base, in a few years they would be fine.

It's hard to promote yourself as an alternative, when you revert to your old ring and employ talent from the opposition again and again and again.

Absolutely no incentive to watch TNA these days.
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:thumbsu:
 
Edge made 4 or 500k for wrestlemania 24.

Also heard something that if you get in the royal rumble you get 10k bonus

This is from WNW
With the wide range of salaries in WWE, it's nearly impossible to give an accurate average. A main event talent (such as John Cena) has a downside guarantee that is going to be in the hundreds of thousands while a developmental contract includes a downside in the $25,000 range. Workers such as Christian have downsides in the ballpark of $75,000 and Beth Phoenix has one around $100,000. A worker makes a percentage of their downside each week they are with WWE and are paid it as long as they are with the company (regardless of being injured). The only time the pay stops is when a worker is suspended. Workers are then paid bonuses on show appearances, merchandise sold, etc.
 

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