Kick out rule clarification

[joshhem]

At what point should play-on be called under the new rule?

Under the old rules. If any part of the players foot touched the line marking of the goal square, a ball up was called.
So what about under this new rule. Should play-on be called if any part of the line is touched or passed?

I'm sure I've seen multiple occasions this weekend where there was a foot on the line, but play-on was not called. It is now a ruling of the ball fully passing the line like the boundary?

 

[joshhem]

Anyone?

 

[Tarkyn_24]

You can play on without kicking to yourself now, can’t you? In which case the goalsquare is now essentially meaningless in the context of bringing the ball back into play.

 

[Sentinel]

I believe it's called play on when the player steps on or over the line - it used to be a penalty if the foot touched the line at all.

Do they still have the rule for a free kick against if the ball goes out of bounds from the kick-in if not touched? Do we know where that rule stands for when a player has left the square (without kicking it to himself like they used to)?

 

[SUNS]

I believe it's called play on when the player steps on or over the line - it used to be a penalty if the foot touched the line at all.

Do they still have the rule for a free kick against if the ball goes out of bounds from the kick-in if not touched? Do we know where that rule stands for when a player has left the square (without kicking it to himself like they used to)?

Correct, once a player steps out of the goal square or kicks the ball, play on is to be called.

No free kick will be awarded if a ball goes out of bounds from a kick in anymore unless it is on the full or the umpire deems it deliberate.

 

[joshhem]

Correct, once a player steps out of the goal square or kicks the ball, play on is to be called.

No free kick will be awarded if a ball goes out of bounds from a kick in anymore unless it is on the full or the umpire deems it deliberate.

So out of the goal square means any part of the foot outside the line markings?

 

[SUNS]

So out of the goal square means any part of the foot outside the line markings?

To be technical it is actually on the line. So basically, the same point that last year would have been a ball up at the end of the goal square, it is now called play on.

A player can not handball out of the square either. Must be kicked or ran out

 

[DavyRed]

To be technical it is actually on the line. So basically, the same point that last year would have been a ball up at the end of the goal square, it is now called play on.

A player can not handball out of the square either. Must be kicked or ran out

Just a quick follow up question. Under the old rules it was considered a disposal for stats counting purposes if a player kicked to themselves then ran out of the square and kicked it again (I think). What’s the situation now, does the player get a disposal if they simply run out of the square and kick?

 

[DamoESP]

Just a quick follow up question. Under the old rules it was considered a disposal for stats counting purposes if a player kicked to themselves then ran out of the square and kicked it again (I think). What’s the situation now, does the player get a disposal if they simply run out of the square and kick?

Yep, if they run out of the square, they have elected to play on, so the disposal is recorded.
If they kick from inside the square (and hence, haven't elected to play on), no disposal is recorded.

(The official clarification from Champion Data is here: https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-01-17/champion-data-clarifies-disposal-stats-for-kickins )

This is why quite a few of the players that are generally designated to kick the ball in for their team (such as Hurn for the Eagles or Llyod at the Swans) are averaging career highs in kicks

 

[DavyRed]

Yep, if they run out of the square, they have elected to play on, so the disposal is recorded.
If they kick from inside the square (and hence, haven't elected to play-on), no disposal is recorded.
Handballing from inside the square counts as a disposal now.

(The official clarification from Champion Data is here: https://www.afl.com.au/news/2019-01-17/champion-data-clarifies-disposal-stats-for-kickins )

This is why quite a few of the players that are generally designated to kick the ball in for their team (such as Hurn for the Eagles) are averaging career highs in kicks

Thanks mate. Wow that’s a bloody cheap stat though. I guess it always was even under the old rule but somehow this seems even cheaper now!

 

[deanc]

To be technical it is actually on the line. So basically, the same point that last year would have been a ball up at the end of the goal square, it is now called play on.

A player can not handball out of the square either. Must be kicked or ran out

Correct but once you leave the square you can bounce, handball or kick it...? The objective of the new rule is to get the ball outside the 50m arc either by the first kicker or the second which should create fast and open play and reduce congestion/repeat stoppages around goals and in pockets.

 

[D-N-R]

So is this simply a mistake or is it how the rule is now treated?
https://www.theroar.com.au/afl/vide...sion-robs-dogs-of-clear-free-kick-764450/amp/

 

[Micksy]

So is this simply a mistake or is it how the rule is now treated?
https://www.theroar.com.au/afl/vide...sion-robs-dogs-of-clear-free-kick-764450/amp/

I'm assuming the controlling umpire wasn't watching to see if the kicker's foot was behind/on/over the line, so when he had to make a call he couldn't.
He asked the boundary umpire if it was "on the full" and when he said No, they went with a "neutral" decision.