King Vs Ednie

[CJH]

I am of the view that we can only maintain one of these 2 players on the list.

Both are flyweights in a sport where you need to be at least a middle-weight to prosper.

If a flyweight is good enough, he can cut it in the big time - think Brent Harvey - but having more than one on the paddock means you can get too easily pushed around.

King has experience and is also a bit bigger; is able to find the ball and get it out. God help us though when he has to kick. He struggles to move it any more than 25 metres and is no certainty to hit a target.

Ednie also can find the ball and has also shown smarts that are very rare. He is able to use the ball a lot better than King. My view is that he is the better long term prospect but we should put him to pasture now with a view of developing physically in time for next year.

Brent Harvey was a small when he started but now has developed very nicely. He is still no Michael Voss but is as strong as he needs to be in order to play his game. Ednie should be aiming at achieving this same level.

My view is keep Ednie....

 

[Dean3]

King v Ednie

Interesting question CJH. I tend to agree - keep Ednie. I think we've seen the best of King and he's served us pretty well, but that's about it. Ednie may prove to do everything King can do, but with better foot skills. I also think Ednie has the better hairdresser.
Might be that they both have to go eventually....

 

[Patrick Bateman]

King v Ednie

like to see a bit more of Ednie before committing but it's an issue which must be addressed..

If Sziller gets punted off the list (Which I'm sure he will) there's another one of those medium-type midfielders gone, so maybe we could keep both, although i do agree we can't sustain 2 bantam-weights..

BTW, it's deathly quiet on most RFC Board this week .. Is this a portent I wonder?

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

good question altho im with PB on this one. id rather wait and see a bit more of ednie.
king,s strengths is his ablity to get the ball out of packs something that is lacking in the rest of our midfeild.
obviously his kicking is shocking however a player like king brings our "outside" midfeilders into play.

ednie has youth on his side and plenty of scope for improvement.

all this may depend on who we have in mind come draft time on who or if one of these 2 get the chop.

cheers!

 

[RichmondTiger5]

at the moment King is playing better but it the long run I would go with Ednie I think.I know Ednie is one of the young ones but how old is he?

 

[Rodan#18.]

ed

he's 19 - 20...and it's no contest...ednie wins.
Anyone see 'On The Couch'... the ednie , rodan, krak'r v king thing was discussed.

 

[TigerGar]

Trade King mature player that is a long way from being a top midfield player (Can't teach an old dog new tricks).
Ednie young, a blank canvas can be moulded and improved, shows potential just needs a good preseason in weights room.

 

[Patrick Bateman]

Not sure it's Ednie's weight at issue here.. more his height (or lack of)..

BTW TigerGar who is the wrestler on your Avatar - It looks like a cross between 'Kane' and 'The Ultimate Warrior'..

 

[CJH]

I'm not so sure about the height being the issue! For a point of comparison, here is how he stacks up against some other short people going around:


Craig Ednie: 172 cm / 71 kgs

Brent Harvey: 168 / 73
David Rodan: 171 / 83
Tony Liberatore: 163 / 77

 

[TigerGar]

Originally posted by Patrick Bateman
Not sure it's Ednie's weight at issue here.. more his height (or lack of)..

BTW TigerGar who is the wrestler on your Avatar - It looks like a cross between 'Kane' and 'The Ultimate Warrior'..

Not Wrestler but The Crow from the movie

 

[Rodan#18.]

Originally posted by TigerGar
Trade King mature player that is a long way from being a top midfield player (Can't teach an old dog new tricks

Oh Yeah ..he's gotta go ...along with Bidders, Tivvers.
Chuck out a couple of 30+ rejects as well. How much are men these days ? Ricciuto, Archer, Barnard, Hardwick.

We don't have a guy who says "Mine !" and means it. A few show-ponies though...ever heard of hard ball gets boys ?

No enforcers...a tagger or two perhaps. Rogers lays a bump every blue moon...

 

[RichmondTiger5]

Re: ed

Originally posted by Rodan#18.
he's 19 - 20...and it's no contest...ednie wins.

ok thanks so that makes him 2 years younger than King well it that case I agree Ednie wins for sure.

 

[TheFoxhat]

Re: King v Ednie

Originally posted by Dean3
Interesting question CJH. I tend to agree - keep Ednie. I think we've seen the best of King and he's served us pretty well, but that's about it. Ednie may prove to do everything King can do, but with better foot skills. I also think Ednie has the better hairdresser.
Might be that they both have to go eventually....

Kingi's got bad hair, but we don't care
Ednie still has a lot to prove yet in a.f.l

I would'nt get rid of either just yet!!!!

 

[nut]

I'd keep both for now.

Rodan18.................What was discussed on "The Couch" regarding Ednie, Rodan, Krak'r, King etc?

Another one to ponder. Is there a spot in our starting 22 for both Duncan Kellaway and Sziller. Given the lack of skill they both posess is Sziller only useful as a backup tagger in case Duncan gets injured again or does he hold a spot in his own right?

 

[Rodan#18.]

dunc.

Originally posted by nut
I'd keep both for now.

Rodan18.................What was discussed on "The Couch" regarding Ednie, Rodan, Krak'r, King etc?

ROBERT WALLS said : King, sziller , tivendale were very one dimensional midfielders..if he was coach (and I believe we've already been down that road, Robert ) he'd have Rodan on-ball 60% of the time and fwd 40%. He said krakeour and Ednie were also the right way to go. He also said campbell and Knights were the only quality on-balllers we had. Mike Sheahan was able to say something interesting but Healy interrupted with another topic. IMHO they are words from a man who has also takes us from a preliminary final into oblivion (96). However I agree.

Is there a spot in our starting 22 for both Duncan Kellaway and Sziller. Given the lack of skill they both posess is Sziller only useful as a backup tagger in case Duncan gets injured again or does he hold a spot in his own right?.

NO, NO, no, nope, not at all and never would Sziller and Dunc play in the team together.
Well maybe, but not if you had a full strength side to choose from.
Dunc would play 100 % of the time...and he's in my first 18, (sorry Diggler) just look at how much better the team has gone with him back. Yeah we're losing but ....i think we have to look elsewhere for the problem. Essendon won a flag with wallis on board so trust me...we can find room for Dunc.

the Thing about Dunc. Apart from Voss in the preliminary last year when Dunc got toasted ; He crucifies an opposition top midfielder. The other coach, desperate to get the tagged guy back to work, sends him forward where Dunc becomes a defender. Or THE OTHER COACH turns the tagged into a tagger,
...both wins for us. And Dunc can move the ball around..just not as well as Akermanis can.

Sziller can do it but he's a back up. He's shorter, slower and not as good...it's a miracle he got to 150 games. Mind you he was at
St. Crapilda.

Having a team with Dunc, sziller AND KING, all playing together is really dodgy.

But Knights seems to back in a big BIG BIG way. !!!!!!!

 

[CJH]

Originally posted by nut


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Another one to ponder. Is there a spot in our starting 22 for both Duncan Kellaway and Sziller. Given the lack of skill they both posess is Sziller only useful as a backup tagger in case Duncan gets injured again or does he hold a spot in his own right?

Good point! No, I don't think there is - we do need many more ball winners and less stoppers. Games aren't won by tagging!

Also, as a longer term propostion, Newman just might cut the mustard as an 'inside' midfielder. I commented last year that he appeared to be a good driver in heavy traffic and hasn't done himself a disservice since being promoted.