Recommitted Kysaiah Pickett - signs new 9-year contract!

[Scythe]

Kozzy commits | Pickett inks long-term deal

Kysaiah Pickett has signed a seven-year deal with Melbourne.

www.melbournefc.com.au

 

[HairyO]

**** hope Nick Watson's manager doesn't see this contract.

And I hope we dont offer $500k a year more than the external offers he gets...

You kind of make it sound like nobody is as good nor ever will be as good Kozzie.

At least that's how it sounds to me.

He doesnt have have a "Will Kozzie be the GOAT" thread on the main board !!

(Yet.)

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

yeah, I watched Kozzie have 24 and 5 goals 4 behinds against you guys.

I'm not saying Reid isn't a good young player. He is. But he's never going to be in the same stratosphere as a guy like Pickett who has what Reid will never have. Speed and athleticism.

How do you say this stuff so confidently. Have a guess which player is who for their first year. Melbourne don't have a monopoly on good players in the comp...

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Any reason people wanna ignore the actual comparison in Shai Bolton

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Shai Bolton

Age

27

Ht

176cm

Wt

77kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

12.3

3star

K

6.9

3star

HB

5.4

4star

M

2.8

3star

T

2.9

4star

CL

1.4

4star

D

12.7

3star

K

9.2

4star

HB

3.5

2star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.7

4star

CL

1.8

4star

D

9.2

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

4.6

4star

M

2.0

3star

T

2.6

4star

CL

0.0

1star

vs Kosi Pickett

Shai got 1.2 mill per year on a 5 year deal but he is also 3 years older. Very similar in stats. I dont see people going apeshit over Shais contract

 

[HairyO]

Any reason people wanna ignore the actual comparison in Shai Bolton vs Kosi Pickett

Shai got 1.2 mill per year on a 5 year deal but he is also 3 years older. Very similar in stats. I dont see people going apeshit over Shais contract

You dont see much difference between a 5 year deal and a 9 year deal?

 

[Snuffaluphagus]

Any reason people wanna ignore the actual comparison in Shai Bolton vs Kosi Pickett

Shai got 1.2 mill per year on a 5 year deal but he is also 3 years older. Very similar in stats. I dont see people going apeshit over Shais contract

Its at least 200k more and 4 more years. 4 more years at a higher amount is 4 more years for something to go wrong, regardless of his age

 

[danster168]

How do you say this stuff so confidently. Have a guess which player is who for their first year. Melbourne don't have a monopoly on good players in the comp...

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have you watched your own team play? When has Freo played where opposition players are so worried about Reid's speed and defensive pressure that they panic in his presence?

That's why I'm saying, these guys aren't replacements. They're different players. Even Harley Reid isn't a replacement, even if he turns out better, he's not a replacement because you're not replacing the skill set lost, you're investing it elsewhere.

Reid slid down the draft due to his lack in speed and athleticism, the 2 things that Pickett is valued for. So even if Reid becomes a good player, it's going to be due to footy smarts and decision making, not due to raw speed. So it'll never be a replacement.

 

[Toump Ass]

As if Kozzie was ever going to consider a loser club like Fremantle lmao.

 

[Hamann188]

have you watched your own team play? When has Freo played where opposition players are so worried about Reid's speed and defensive pressure that they panic in his presence?

That's why I'm saying, these guys aren't replacements. They're different players. Even Harley Reid isn't a replacement, even if he turns out better, he's not a replacement because you're not replacing the skill set lost, you're investing it elsewhere.

Reid slid down the draft due to his lack in speed and athleticism, the 2 things that Pickett is valued for. So even if Reid becomes a good player, it's going to be due to footy smarts and decision making, not due to raw speed. So it'll never be a replacement.

What would you prefer? Footy smarts and decision making or speed and athleticism?

And would you pay more than 200k more than market value for 9 years for one over the other?

 

[Trav 20]

You've got to feel sorry for Freo fans.

They've been dreaming of Kossie in their ugly colours for years.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

You dont see much difference between a 5 year deal and a 9 year deal?

When one is 3 years younger not really…

 

[HairyO]

When one is 3 years younger not really…

So Reid should be given an 11 year contract offer then ?

 

[danster168]

What would you prefer? Footy smarts and decision making or speed and athleticism?

And would you pay more than 200k more than market value for 9 years for one over the other?

The question is too general to answer. But there's probably only 3 or 4 players in the league with Pickett's athletic profile but around 100 players with footy smarts. Obviously, if you have raw speed and literally a scrub everywhere else then that's going to be an extreme. But let's say you lost Frederick, you're simply not going to be able to replace him. Because your team becomes instantly slower without him.

it's not more than market value. De koning, Harley Reid, Finn Callaghan, Wanganeen-Milera are all going to be around the same mark I'm pretty sure. Pickett belongs in this bunch. So I think it's fine.

 

[Stevooo3940]

have you watched your own team play? When has Freo played where opposition players are so worried about Reid's speed and defensive pressure that they panic in his presence?

That's why I'm saying, these guys aren't replacements. They're different players. Even Harley Reid isn't a replacement, even if he turns out better, he's not a replacement because you're not replacing the skill set lost, you're investing it elsewhere.

Reid slid down the draft due to his lack in speed and athleticism, the 2 things that Pickett is valued for. So even if Reid becomes a good player, it's going to be due to footy smarts and decision making, not due to raw speed. So it'll never be a replacement.

This is the dumbest thing ever. Well done man.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

So Reid should be given an 11 year contract offer then ?

Harley ? He has a 10 year 20 mill offer…

Question back, if Nick Watson asks for 9 year 10 mill and say GWS offer that and he asks to match, would you say no and trade him for say pick 12 and 17 in this years draft and move on ?

 

[Hamann188]

The question is too general to answer. But there's probably only 3 or 4 players in the league with Pickett's athletic profile but around 100 players with footy smarts. Obviously, if you have raw speed and literally a scrub everywhere else then that's going to be an extreme. But let's say you lost Frederick, you're simply not going to be able to replace him. Because your team becomes instantly slower without him.

it's not more than market value. De koning, Harley Reid, Finn Callaghan, Wanganeen-Milera are all going to be around the same mark I'm pretty sure. Pickett belongs in this bunch. So I think it's fine.

So that's the answer then, you'd prefer the speed and athleticism because you think they are in smaller supply than players with footy nous.

Fair enough, if that's Melbourne's prerogative then we'll see over the next 9 years how that strategy works out for them.

Freddy often gets criticised on our board for making poor decisions, some of us actually considered dropping him earlier in the year because of it. Brandon Walker has been in the same boat as well over his time with us.

It'll be interesting to see what mindset and gameplan turns out to be the right direction moving forward.

 

[VinnieB]

Any reason people wanna ignore the actual comparison in Shai Bolton vs Kosi Pickett

Shai got 1.2 mill per year on a 5 year deal but he is also 3 years older. Very similar in stats. I dont see people going apeshit over Shais contract

No-one gives a shit what goes on in WA.

You should know that.

 

[danster168]

This is the dumbest thing ever. Well done man.

No player that answers “I don’t really know yet, I haven’t really thought that far ahead,” when asked whether he is leaving is most definitely out the door. He loves the dees but its time to go home. Welcome to Freo Kozzie!

Thanks Stevooo, Your'e always ahead of the curve. Most definitely out the door = 9 year contract.

 

[VinnieB]

The question is too general to answer. But there's probably only 3 or 4 players in the league with Pickett's athletic profile but around 100 players with footy smarts. Obviously, if you have raw speed and literally a scrub everywhere else then that's going to be an extreme. But let's say you lost Frederick, you're simply not going to be able to replace him. Because your team becomes instantly slower without him.

it's not more than market value. De koning, Harley Reid, Finn Callaghan, Wanganeen-Milera are all going to be around the same mark I'm pretty sure. Pickett belongs in this bunch. So I think it's fine.

Melbourne is like North and St Kilda. They need to pay up to keep players at their club. You only pay those $$ with that term (the term is probably more the issue), if you’re attempting to get a player from another club.

Just as North paid up an excessive contract to retain LDU, St Kilda will likely need to do also to retain Wanganeen-Milera and Melbourne is on a similar level as those 2 clubs, hence the 9 yr contract.

 

[danster168]

So that's the answer then, you'd prefer the speed and athleticism because you think they are in smaller supply than players with footy nous.

Fair enough, if that's Melbourne's prerogative then we'll see over the next 9 years how that strategy works out for them.

Freddy often gets criticised on our board for making poor decisions, some of us actually considered dropping him earlier in the year because of it. Brandon Walker has been in the same boat as well over his time with us.

It'll be interesting to see what mindset and gameplan turns out to be the right direction moving forward.

once again. Too hard to measure. because you'd have to weigh up who would've been Pickett's replacement. Once again, you've failed to give us an actual name. Also, the effect of losing Gawn etc. There's too many moving parts.

 

[Stevooo3940]

Thanks Stevooo, Your'e always ahead of the curve. Most definitely out the door = 9 year contract.

haha, he was gone till the Dees blew their salary cap on him. Well played by him... not so much your list management team Im going to enjoy watching who gets pushed out of Melbourne for this contract.

 

[danster168]

Melbourne is like North and St Kilda. They need to pay up to keep players at their club. You only pay those $$ with that term (the term is probably more the issue), if you’re attempting to get a player from another club.

Just as North paid up an excessive contract to retain LDU, St Kilda will likely need to do also to retain Wanganeen-Milera and Melbourne is on a similar level as those 2 clubs, hence the 9 yr contract.

yeah coz that's what it costs to keep the players. it will be the same for WCE with Harley Reid.

Didn't you pay 900k for Dan Houston? He has barely fired a shot this year. so it's not like you're not overpaying players.

 

[HirdsTheWord]

lets not beat around the bush and lie to ourselves.

We all know if Pickett signed with Freo on this deal, this thread would be full of demons supporters calling it a horrible deal from freo and laughing at them.

You can be positive on the situation, but don't lie to yourselves that you are getting value here. because you arent.

 

[danster168]

haha, he was gone till the Dees blew their salary cap on him. Well played by him... not so much your list management team Im going to enjoy watching who gets pushed out of Melbourne for this contract.

haha, it was worth it just to prove you wrong.

 

[danster168]

lets not beat around the bush and lie to ourselves.

We all know if Pickett signed with Freo on this deal, this thread would be full of demons supporters calling it a horrible deal from freo and laughing at them.

and freo fans would be celebrating it

 

[HirdsTheWord]

and freo fans would be celebrating it

you should be glad you didn't do it.