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Lapses costing the Blues: Houlihan

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Charbzilla

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CARLTON ball-magnet Ryan Houlihan has urged Blue fans to be patient as the young side attempts to overcome its 0-2 start to the season.
Overrun on Saturday night by St Kilda after jumping to an early four-goal lead, the 26-year-old said players were just as frustrated as fans whose pre-season expectations soared in the wake of Chris Judd’s arrival at the club.
“They (fans) just have to be patient,” Houlihan said.
“We’re trying to improve each player and we’ve just got to quicken up the development process of the young guys and there were some signs there against St Kilda.”
While labelling the loss to the Saints as disappointing, the 159-game veteran did see encouraging signs.
He highlighted young defender Paul Bower (19 possessions), Bryce Gibbs (26), Darren Pfeiffer (17) and Marc Murphy (23) as huge positives to emerge from the 40-point loss.
He was also buoyed by the fact last year’s No. 1 draft pick Matthew Kreuzer would debut next weekend against Essendon.
It was the second week in a row the Blues had squandered a four-goal lead early in the match, a trend Houlihan said the club had to rectify sooner rather than later.
“We made a focus to come out hard and we did that for one and a half quarters but to fall away was really disappointing,” he said.
“I don’t know if it’s just a young, inexperienced team that runs out of legs, and when the opposition gets a few goals, the confidence drops pretty quickly.
“Whatever it is, it’s something we have to improve on and I’m sure it will come as we get more experience.”
While disappointed to be sitting 0-2 he said the side could at least take solace from the fact it had been competitive against a St Kilda side expected to push hard for a premiership in 2008.
“In both games this year we’ve had chances to win it, we just haven’t taken them,” he said.
“We’re getting opportunities and when they come we’ve got to put scoreboard pressure on and really try and put teams away.”
He said the immediate task facing the senior players was to show the way during the week as the side prepares to face Essendon on Saturday at the MCG.
“It’s our job to keep the enthusiasm around the club because if we’re not doing it the young guys are not going to do it,” Houlihan said.
“We’ve just got to keep the spirit up.”
 
Once upon of time, this sort of article from a player would have given me hope. It seems we have seen a million of them in the past 5 years though. Actions speak louder than words and actions are the only thing that will provide that hope now.
 
“They (fans) just have to be patient,” Houlihan said.

We have been..........very, VERY patient.

The anger on this board is due to this sort of comment.

Its a cop out.

We should have been much better than what was dished up on Saturday night, and after 6 years of waiting we have been very patient and NOW the players must start to deliver.

We are not expecting flags, but we are expecting the senior players to lead by example, hit targets, give 2nd, 3rd and 4th efforts when the ball is in dispute........and continue to run until they need to spew.
 

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I'm sorry but I disagree with this. It wasn't the young players on the weekend that dropped off but rather the people we would call senior players: Simpson, Carrazzo, Scotland, Stevens. This is where we lost it - in the middle.

And like DC said, why didn't he chuck in a hint about wanting to play in the forward line! ;)
 
I hate this sort of article, the fans have to be patient says Houla, well guess what Houla? the senior players have to put in a bloody four quarter effort and have a red hot go instead of giving up every week midway though the second quarter!!

This is the mentality of our senior players after six years of beltings, theyre happy to keep waiting for something to happen and they continue to expect us hard working people to pay they're wages while they wait and do nothing, well i'm sick of it!!


Harden the **** up Hoops and instead of watching your junior teammates do the hard yards, put in a consistent four quarter effort and act like you care to win!!
 
Maybe as a senior player Houla should step up and play 4 qtrs and set the example for the younger players.

The time for defecting blame has finished.. if senior players like him, Fev, Scotland etc can't step up and lead the youngsters, then they should be cut.
 
Maybe as a senior player Houla should step up and play 4 qtrs and set the example for the younger players.

The time for defecting blame has finished.. if senior players like him, Fev, Scotland etc can't step up and lead the youngsters, then they should be cut.

Im sure we'll be a much more competitive side when we cut the most talented players from our list:rolleyes:, Maybe put Wiggins in the side, he has "great hands" and at least "has a crack " doesn't he?
 
Im sure we'll be a much more competitive side when we cut the most talented players from our list:rolleyes:, Maybe put Wiggins in the side, he has "great hands" and at least "has a crack " doesn't he?

What I'm saying is that the senior players should be doing their upmost to set the example for the youngsters.

Enough of the excuses for these guys.. if they are not totally committed, then we need to let them go
 
They need and hour or two in a room with some of the old greats and could open up a go through them and explain what the CFC on the front of their jumpers means to them. They never took it for granted, they always bleed for the club. All we have is spineless, selfish clowns who only care about the glamour and the bucks not us the faithful, most loyal supporters (look at past memberships numbers) in the AFL who has understood what we got and believe it probably was fair but now WE HAVE RUN OUT OF EXCUSES.

THEIR YOUNG, HE'S HALF FIT, NEW COACH BLA BLA BLA BLA GET OVER IT AND DOOOOOOOOOO SOMETHING!!!

THIS ENDS NOW CARLTON FOR GOD'S SAKE NO WAIT FOR ALL OUR SAKE, START KICKING GOALS AND WINNING GAMES!!!!

NO LONGER CAN I PUT UP WITH THIS ROT, EVERYONE IS LAUGHING THEIR BUTS OFF AT US AND I FOR ONE HAVE HAD A GUT FULL!!!
 
who exactly would you let go out of our senior list? Do we even have any seniors in the team? That's half the bloody problem. We have Houlihan, Fev, Stevens, Judd, not many others, i would hate to see what we're like if we cut these players loose.
 
He is correct about the scoreboard pressure. A better team would have been up by 50 points at quarter time with all our chances. Instead we didn't take our chances and turned the ball over resulting in them kicking a few goals themselves.
 

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Holla the soft ****, dud, hack etc etc speaks words of wisdom. Begs us the fans for ****ing patience, tells us things we already know. Well Hoola maybe if you toughen the **** up and stop talking shit we would listen. For 6 ****ing years I have been hearing the same shit, I am sick of paying the wages of players who don't give a **** about us the fans only how much money they can get out of us, enough is ****ing enough.
 
What pisses me off is the actual football we are playing. It has been crap and I havent enjoyed it at all. There were games last year like against Port Adelaide where we were 45 odd points down and we came storming back to hit the lead. We were playing good, hard and most importantly exciting footy. Our skills were much better and even though we lost I was still optimisitic.

After watching the last two games I hate to say it but my optimism is fading as I watch skill error after skill error and shocking decisions being made. Its up to the players now, I refuse to believe they are that bad. They seriously need to have a good hard look at themselves and train the house down, bring the skills up to the level we expect.
 
Holla the soft ****, dud, hack etc etc speaks words of wisdom. Begs us the fans for ****ing patience, tells us things we already know. Well Hoola maybe if you toughen the **** up and stop talking shit we would listen. For 6 ****ing years I have been hearing the same shit, I am sick of paying the wages of players who don't give a **** about us the fans only how much money they can get out of us, enough is ****ing enough.

Go barrack for Collingwood.
 
Go barrack for Collingwood.

Listen I am sick of bullshit coming out of their mouths I have followed, supported this team for 3 decades now. I have a right to speak my mind, I have paid my hard earned to this club without fail every season. I have always brought my membership without fail. I have stood by them for 6 years, I have cried and had my heart broken like most fans the last 6 years. I have had enough of lame excuses, same bullshit each year and for this dud to come out and ask us for patience and saying shit like yeah we tried for 2.5 quarters and then we got over run takes the ****ing cake. Don't you ****ing dare have a go at me.
 
jeez this sounds like de Ja vu for me. everyone in unison condeming the players just as last year it was Pagan. I won't say much to defend them b/c it would be a pointless task except that if u think we are in the same league as the Saints u are mistaken. I thought 40 points accurately reflects the diffrence in talent between the two sides. some really promising signs from our youngsters. The backline guys who everyone thought were going to be towelled up and also Murphy and Gibbs. I guess they hav no pride in the jumper though :rolleyes:. At the end of the day some clear signs are young group are developing but people on this board just want it all now.

those that say we have been patient enough pffffttttttt...go and barrack for st kilda or the bulldogs.
 
posted by Alpha1
Listen I am sick of bullshit coming out of their mouths I have followed, supported this team for 3 decades now. I have a right to speak my mind, I have paid my hard earned to this club without fail every season. I have always brought my membership without fail. I have stood by them for 6 years, I have cried and had my heart broken like most fans the last 6 years. I have had enough of lame excuses, same bullshit each year and for this dud to come out and ask us for patience and saying shit like yeah we tried for 2.5 quarters and then we got over run takes the ****ing cake. Don't you ****ing dare have a go at me.

bwaaaaaaahahhhhhhhhhhh. 6 years u poor thing u. Saints fans have been waiting about 50 for a flag. I hav seen 5 Blues flags in my lifetime which is better than most clubs. Hence I am prepared to cut the club some slack now while they right their ship. Stop your whinging and go and support our young team.
 

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bwaaaaaaahahhhhhhhhhhh. 6 years u poor thing u. Saints fans have been waiting about 50 for a flag. I hav seen 5 Blues flags in my lifetime which is better than most clubs. Hence I am prepared to cut the club some slack now while they right their ship. Stop your whinging and go and support our young team.


Yeah and you know why Saints fans have been waiting for over 50 years for a flag? Because they accepted losing as a culture and look at them now even with a good team they cant make a impression on the finals. For a great club like Carlton 6 years is too long, so maybe you should go support the Saints since you seem to think that the same excuses every year is good enough. The great CFC is a sham these days we have players on our list who have been there for a long long time and have done nothing or showed nothing, they are just good at making excuses. But I guess most people on here accept losing and are willing to tolerate the shit we get every week, every season.
 
Just 4 Quarters thats all I ask for not 2.5 not 3.4.....4 that number should be an easy on given sticks used to wear and play hard for 4 quarters. Gibbs played 4 as well but we never ever do it as a team anymore.
 
Listen I am sick of bullshit coming out of their mouths I have followed, supported this team for 3 decades now. I have a right to speak my mind, I have paid my hard earned to this club without fail every season. I have always brought my membership without fail. I have stood by them for 6 years, I have cried and had my heart broken like most fans the last 6 years. I have had enough of lame excuses, same bullshit each year and for this dud to come out and ask us for patience and saying shit like yeah we tried for 2.5 quarters and then we got over run takes the ****ing cake. Don't you ****ing dare have a go at me.

What the **** do you expect him to come out and say? 'Yeah we got Judd but we're still shit, expect us to get another spoon this year...' You're just using this thread as an excuse to be a Houlihan-basher. If Juddy said the same things Houla did you wouldn't have replied the same way. It's called media speak.
 
Just 4 Quarters thats all I ask for not 2.5 not 3.4.....4 that number should be an easy on given sticks used to wear and play hard for 4 quarters. Gibbs played 4 as well but we never ever do it as a team anymore.

There you go that is all I want, commitment, courage and 100% for 4 quarters, none of us expect them to go win a flag in the next few years all I ask of them is to win 6 - 8 games and show commitment to the cause and to the CFC. I am not asking for much and I am asking them to win 26 games, I am just sick of the same all excuses and same old shit.
 
posted by alpha1
Yeah and you know why Saints fans have been waiting for over 50 years for a flag? Because they accepted losing as a culture and look at them now even with a good team they cant make a impression on the finals. For a great club like Carlton 6 years is too long, so maybe you should go support the Saints since you seem to think that the same excuses every year is good enough. The great CFC is a sham these days we have players on our list who have been there for a long long time and have done nothing or showed nothing, they are just good at making excuses. But I guess most people on here accept losing and are willing to tolerate the shit we get every week, every season.

having expectations in line with your talent base does not mean u are adopting a losing culture. Like it or not there are times when clubs hav to rebuiild and go through tough times like we are atm. Who are these players that u think have been there for a while and shown nothing? I'm sure u could name a few like any club could. JR is one and i agree it may be time to giv him the flick. Should never have been selected IMO. So why don't u take a shot at the coach? Oh i forgot the coach was last years scapegoat so i guess we need a new one hmmmmm...who oculd it be??? Not Ratts b/c he is to popular, how about this year we blame all the problems with CFC on the players?

Most of the other young guys IMO are coming along quite nicely considering the rabble they were drafted in to.
 
Go barrack for Collingwood.
WHO TF do you think you are??? Go and barrack for a hack soccer team called AC Milan who can't even beat Atalanta and won't even make champions league!! To tell this bloke to go and barrack for Collingwood is simply not on. He's just angry like the rest of us. After 6 bloody long years, it is time for the playing group to step up. No more excuses, even from Houlihan now. Just put your heads over the ball and start playing some good footy, like they do for about 10 mins each week!!

This bloke is just expressing his anger, the anger that everyone has in them after all these years mate. Just lay off.
 

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