Leo Stands Down As Captain

[SOPH_CROSS]

Havnt got all the details but just heard it then

Well Done Leo thanks for being a great leader
and congrats and good luck in ur final year

 

[bloods01]

This should pave the way for Goodsey to take over, however, that's what we all thought when Bazz stood down. McVeigh may be a smokey as he is considered a future leader of the club.

 

[Costanza_]

From Yahoo!7...

Barry gives up captaincy

Sportal - November 28, 2008, 7:12 am
Sydney premiership hero Leo Barry has stepped down as co-captain of the club so he can focus on what will be the final year of his AFL career.
The 15-year veteran, who also decided to withdraw from the leadership group, has been one of three co-captains since 2006.
His decision leaves Brett Kirk and Craig Bolton at the Swans' helm.
"It has been a huge privilege and honour to be captain of this club for the last three years and to also be a part of the leadership group for the last seven," Barry said.
"I feel my decision creates an opportunity for some of the younger guys to step up and also to increase our leadership base."
"I am focussed on next season, feel I can contribute to the group and on field leadership, and I'm excited about the upcoming year."
Adam Goodes is tipped as the most likely replacement to fill Barry's shoes.
The defender is perhaps best remembered for his match-saving mark in the final seconds of the 2005 Grand Final against West Coast which sealed the Swans' first premiership in 72 years.
Coach Paul Roos paid tribute to Barry's time as a leader of the club.
"Leo's leadership qualities are unquestioned and his input as captain and as a part of the leadership group has been invaluable over the last three and seven years respectively," Roos said.
"We know that even though he has stepped down as a captain and out of the leadership group he remains one of our senior players and leaders both on and off the field and will continue to be a great role model for everyone at the football club.
Roos indicated that Nick Malceski, Jarrad McVeigh, Jarred Moore and Paul Bevan would all come into consideration as new members of the leadership group.

 

[grimlock]

Vote 1 Eski

 

[kira]

well done leo .... just concenrate on your footy, and lead us to another premiership in your final season

moore and bevan - shouldn't even be considered for the leadership group spot.... neither have really proven themselves consistently over the years.... moore had only proved himself this year... last spot is mcveigh's

 

[natlovestheswans]

Paul Bevan.. hahahahahahah.

 

[is2SWaNz]

Not surprised, he's probably following suit like the other captains from other clubs.

Congratulations Leo! Goodes would probably be inducted as the 3rd co-captain. Or maybe even ROK?

 

[vonn]

ROK? naaa...
adam goodes would like completley mess up his footy even with the tiniest bit of pressure... i know it wont happen but iwould love to see brett kirk as the sole leader of the club... but if not then kirk bolton and.... malceski? sounds weird malceski has never striked me as a leader type player

 

[kira]

rok doesn't deserve to be captain after putting himself up for sale earlier

he should be on notice for a year before we consider him for top job

 

[is2SWaNz]

Nor did Luke Ablett.

 

[EatBig Australia]

I believe this is the best thing for Leo and the club.

Personally I hope they don't appoint someone to replace him and just stick with Bolts and Kirk (although i would love Kirk on his own).

 

[ssfc0203]

Been said before,

C: Kirk
VC: Bolton & Goodes/Malch

 

[smasher]

Congrats Leo,you have done a fantastic job in the leadership group but realize it's time to move on and let a younger bloke step in.

 

[scottwade]

ROK? naaa...
adam goodes would like completley mess up his footy even with the tiniest bit of pressure... i know it wont happen but iwould love to see brett kirk as the sole leader of the club... but if not then kirk bolton and.... malceski? sounds weird malceski has never striked me as a leader type player

Ridiculous statement.

Like the pressure of taking over the ruck when Stafford was injured and winning the Rising Star award?
Like the pressure of winning 2 Brownlow medals?
Like the pressure of playing a year with a badly injured knee?
Like the pressure of playing with a groin injury and having to play FF and kicking 8 goals?

For whatever reason Goodes was undisciplined earlier in the year.

To suggest based, presumably, on those minor indiscretions that Goodes cannot play "with the tiniest bit of pressure" is absolute nonsense.

 

[bedford]

Great post Scott

 

[SM]

Malceski, Bevan, McVeigh and Moore should not be considered, as all have played under 150 games for the Swans. Captains should have experience as well as ability.

Goodes for mine, or as said, Kirk as sole.

 

[BarneyBent]

Ridiculous statement.

Like the pressure of taking over the ruck when Stafford was injured and winning the Rising Star award?
Like the pressure of winning 2 Brownlow medals?
Like the pressure of playing a year with a badly injured knee?
Like the pressure of playing with a groin injury and having to play FF and kicking 8 goals?

For whatever reason Goodes was undisciplined earlier in the year.

To suggest based, presumably, on those minor indiscretions that Goodes cannot play "with the tiniest bit of pressure" is absolute nonsense.

Not to knock you or anything, but to be fair, those middle two points don't really count. Notice that after both his Brownlow years, he's had a spell of poor form. The pressure of trying to live up to the Brownlow reputation too much perhaps? Maybe, maybe not. Can't really be used to suggest he is particularly good under pressure though.

And when he injured his knee, he was decidedly ordinary. Not that I blame him, but it wasn't like he didn't let it affect him or anything. Again, not suggesting he is particularly bad under pressure, but you can't really use it to suggest he is particularly good either.

 

[scottwade]

Not to knock you or anything, but to be fair, those middle two points don't really count. Notice that after both his Brownlow years, he's had a spell of poor form. The pressure of trying to live up to the Brownlow reputation too much perhaps? Maybe, maybe not. Can't really be used to suggest he is particularly good under pressure though.

And when he injured his knee, he was decidedly ordinary. Not that I blame him, but it wasn't like he didn't let it affect him or anything. Again, not suggesting he is particularly bad under pressure, but you can't really use it to suggest he is particularly good either.

In 2007 (after his Brownlow in 2006) he finished 4th in our B&F.
2004 (after his 2003 Brownlow) was the year he injured his knee.

A champion player such as Crawford has indicated the pressures that come with being a Brownlow medallist and the perceived need to 'back up'. Certainly my recollections are that Goodes performances were more than adequate in 2007.

The reason I mentioned his knee injury was that it indicated his ability to play on through injury whilst being the reigning Brownlow medallist. Certainly physically it affected his form, but mentally he coped admirably with what was a pressure situation.

 

[kira]

Not to knock you or anything, but to be fair, those middle two points don't really count. Notice that after both his Brownlow years, he's had a spell of poor form. The pressure of trying to live up to the Brownlow reputation too much perhaps? Maybe, maybe not. Can't really be used to suggest he is particularly good under pressure though.

And when he injured his knee, he was decidedly ordinary. Not that I blame him, but it wasn't like he didn't let it affect him or anything. Again, not suggesting he is particularly bad under pressure, but you can't really use it to suggest he is particularly good either.

adam goodes is a star, with all the physical attributes to play or do anything he likes on the field

but the guy is far from consistent, and you would have to say that a possible cause of his inconsistency is mental pressure

 

[SOPH_CROSS]

hmmm i know everyone is saying moore, mcveigh eski and bevan shouldnt be inducted into the leadership group because they havnt done enough to prove them selves...im sure roos sees this but he said he wants then to gain the experience and such...before we know it we will need some of these guys...Kirk and the rest wont last forever...gotta get them learning now...i think its a good idea...these kids will be leaders one day so why not start teaching them now...i only looking at those four and think they are the ones who will most likely join the rest are either in the leadership group already or are too old or too young

 

[SM]

I'd be happy to have players like McVeigh and Bevan in the leadership group - they've been around for a while - and then when Kirk/Bolton/Goodes step down bringing in the McVeigh/Bevan/Moore trio - though three midfielders could be a bit odd.

 

[BarneyBent]

In 2007 (after his Brownlow in 2006) he finished 4th in our B&F.
2004 (after his 2003 Brownlow) was the year he injured his knee.

A champion player such as Crawford has indicated the pressures that come with being a Brownlow medallist and the perceived need to 'back up'. Certainly my recollections are that Goodes performances were more than adequate in 2007.

The reason I mentioned his knee injury was that it indicated his ability to play on through injury whilst being the reigning Brownlow medallist. Certainly physically it affected his form, but mentally he coped admirably with what was a pressure situation.

I thought his 2007 was still a definite drop in form, or at the very least, consistency. I reckon the distance between 4th and 1st in our B&F in 2007 was pretty significant, and that stat flatters him.

Yes, 2004 was the year he hurt his knee. But his 2005 was hardly Brownlow material either. I'm not saying it indicated that he was poor under pressure, just that is wasn't really a valid argument that he was good under pressure. That's all.

As for the knee, that's not a pressure thing, that's a pain thing. Different. Equally admirable, but different. If he'd not only played on, but played terrifically well and not let the knee bother him too much, then yes, maybe you could use that as an argument as well.

 

[kira]

hmmm i know everyone is saying moore, mcveigh eski and bevan shouldnt be inducted into the leadership group because they havnt done enough to prove them selves...im sure roos sees this but he said he wants then to gain the experience and such...before we know it we will need some of these guys...Kirk and the rest wont last forever...gotta get them learning now...i think its a good idea...these kids will be leaders one day so why not start teaching them now...i only looking at those four and think they are the ones who will most likely join the rest are either in the leadership group already or are too old or too young

take things one step at a time.... it's a learning curve, and they have to start from the bottom, and not have everything gift wrapped for them

those guys will probably be future leaders, but the leadership group ARE the leaders

 

[scottwade]

As for the knee, that's not a pressure thing, that's a pain thing. Different. Equally admirable, but different. If he'd not only played on, but played terrifically well and not let the knee bother him too much, then yes, maybe you could use that as an argument as well.

Surely though being a reigning Brownlow medallist with a bad knee, but still being prepared to go out there every week and perform as best you physically can, indicates mental toughness.

And in my book mental toughness equates to the ability to cope with pressure situations.

 

[bedford]

Why do certain swns posters continue to bag Goodes or look for other things about him eg,carn't handle presure.
Adam Goodes is one of the greats of this club, get off his back and watch what a champion he is, sure he will have bad days even Skilton, Ablett and Matthews had them.
He is a star and at least plays attacking footy ,not like some in the team