Lets Not Forget About Presti......

[PIES_MAGIC]

Im a cocky collingwood supporter i admit it, even when we are down i still tell people how good we are. But im getting really excited with the fact that rocca is not up to full strength and presti injured and we are still winning. I no that presti was not there last year but he could only help or has the game past him. Wakelin is proving other wise but if presti comes in who goes out?

 

[King Woodie]

you cannot play Presti, Wakelin, and Brown in the same backline. Even 2 of these three is sometimes going to be too much (with Harry O and Maxwell in there as well taking the third tall).

Presti must put himself in front of either of these two, which at this stage will likely be Wakelin.

 

[brspdt201013]

Straight swap for Wakelin. Wakelin has been good this year but sometimes gets beaten by the good forwards. It will be good when we are at full strength. Although with Rusling out for the year we may not be at full strength for the rest of the year. Below is what I think is our best 22 - In position as well.


MAXWELL PRESTIGIACOMO O'BRIEN

CLARKE BROWN H SHAW

R SHAW PENDLEBURY THOMAS

DAVIS CLOKE LOCKYER

ROCCA RUSLING MEDHURST

FOLL.

FRASER
DIDAK
SWAN

INT.

WOOD
BURNS
O'BREE
JOHNSON

 

[wicksy]

Straight swap for Wakelin. Wakelin has been good this year but sometimes gets beaten by the good forwards. It will be good when we are at full strength. Although with Rusling out for the year we may not be at full strength for the rest of the year. Below is what I think is our best 22 - In position as well.


MAXWELL PRESTIGIACOMO O'BRIEN

CLARKE BROWN H SHAW

R SHAW PENDLEBURY THOMAS

DAVIS CLOKE LOCKYER

ROCCA RUSLING MEDHURST

FOLL.

FRASER
DIDAK
SWAN

INT.

WOOD
BURNS
O'BREE
JOHNSON

Who is Rusling going to replace in our best 22 next year??

Personally I don't see a future for him at our club.

For starters we have Reid is who, if he lives up to potential, will be a star in the future and be our 3rd tall forward. Cloke and Dawes being the other 2.

It also isn't hard for the uneducated to see that Rusling is MASSIVELY 1 dimensional and as soon as the opposition team have someone dropping in front of him to negate his pace, then he is next to useless.

Hope he proves me wrong but I can't see it happening.

(I have also ignored the fact that he is massively injury prone as that is not his fault and does not relate to his football abilities.)

 

[Chase the Ace]

OMG, I'd completely forgotten about Presti.

Thanks

 

[PieLebo87]

Who is Rusling going to replace in our best 22 next year??

Personally I don't see a future for him at our club.

For starters we have Reid is who, if he lives up to potential, will be a star in the future and be our 3rd tall forward. Cloke and Dawes being the other 2.

It also isn't hard for the uneducated to see that Rusling is MASSIVELY 1 dimensional and as soon as the opposition team have someone dropping in front of him to negate his pace, then he is next to useless.

Hope he proves me wrong but I can't see it happening.

(I have also ignored the fact that he is massively injury prone as that is not his fault and does not relate to his football abilities.)

At this stage, and even in 2009, you'd have Rusling ahead of Dawes so he is our first depth player for the forward line, and although some people dont rate him and classify him as too one-dimentional but you can't have too many forwards, especially when we're not a premiership team yet.

As far as Im concerned, Reid and Dawes have not shown enough to be classified as depth players yet compared to Rusling, they are just developing youngsters, so we wouldnt be relying on them yet as players that can come in after an injury and make an immediate impact.

Wicksy, you mention how oppositions just need to drop a player into the space that Rusling will lead into. You seem to forget that this is actually a positive for us. Its one less defender a Rocca, or a Cloke, or a Medhurst has to deal with when making a contest. It leaves them in more one-on-one situations which they can more likely then not win. Rusling might appear one-dimentional but his major attribute is matching-winning non the less.

Finally, how is he injury-prone? He used to be injury-prone, and that shoulder injury was rectified. He suffered a new, unfortunate, injury in rd 1. He has suffered 4 injuries in 3 years, thats not a player who is injury-prone.

 

[PieLebo87]

I forgot to speak about Presti!

I cannot wait for him to return and was also mentioning him to my brother at the Eagles game. But am I mistaken if I believe I saw him last year and he struggled abit to keep up with the pace of the game? It'd be due to his injuries over the last 12 months, but does that mean the game has passed him by?

I'd definitely rather him then Wakelin. I remember him being the most underrated FB in the AFL and defeated a fair few quality FFs.

 

[Kirby]

For the life of me I cannot se how he fits back into our side. He is going to be way underdone and I doubt that he has suddenly developed skills he never had. I'd rather stick to Wakes or play the likes of Anthony etc. We have Brown for the gorillas now.

Presti has been a great player but I think the game has passed him by.

 

[Pie eyed]

Who is Rusling going to replace in our best 22 next year??

Personally I don't see a future for him at our club.

For starters we have Reid is who, if he lives up to potential, will be a star in the future and be our 3rd tall forward. Cloke and Dawes being the other 2.

It also isn't hard for the uneducated to see that Rusling is MASSIVELY 1 dimensional and as soon as the opposition team have someone dropping in front of him to negate his pace, then he is next to useless.

Hope he proves me wrong but I can't see it happening.

(I have also ignored the fact that he is massively injury prone as that is not his fault and does not relate to his football abilities.)

I think you will find Rusling, if fit, is still ahead of Reid and well ahead of Dawes.
From the way he lined up early Mick has plans for Rusling up forward and once he's fit again will be slotted in.
The others have 12 more rounds to convince Mick that they are the better option.

 

[cakewalk06]

I think you will find Rusling, if fit, is still ahead of Reid and well ahead of Dawes.
From the way he lined up early Mick has plans for Rusling up forward and once he's fit again will be slotted in.
The others have 12 more rounds to convince Mick that they are the better option.

exactly.

i remember what Bucks said about him in the B and W magazine. He said Rus was like a mini superman... if he can dodge injury he will end up being a very important player. especially when Rocca calls it a day. In this time of keepings-off footy he should be wekk suited

 

[Vampire013]

I don't know why some people do not rate Rusling ?
Mick certainly does and his opinion is the one that matters
Not the big footy forum experts
Rusling would be killing it this year if he did not cop that bump from Grover.
The forward line has been open lately and no back would have a chance on earth catching him on the lead.
He is faster than any forward going around and I cannot believe that the anti Rusling crowd do not realize that he is also a very good mark.
I hope the kid comes back and proves all the detractors wrong.

 

[Frederlick]

Who is Rusling going to replace in our best 22 next year??

Personally I don't see a future for him at our club.

For starters we have Reid is who, if he lives up to potential, will be a star in the future and be our 3rd tall forward. Cloke and Dawes being the other 2.

It also isn't hard for the uneducated to see that Rusling is MASSIVELY 1 dimensional and as soon as the opposition team have someone dropping in front of him to negate his pace, then he is next to useless.

Hope he proves me wrong but I can't see it happening.

(I have also ignored the fact that he is massively injury prone as that is not his fault and does not relate to his football abilities.)

As great as Rocca is Rusling is the only player who runs straight and hard enough to match him. Yes, is a long way off Rocca, but who else has shown the goods in the big games at FF? Dawes maybe, if Rusling's injury doesn't come good.

 

[sirlothie]

Finally, how is he injury-prone? He used to be injury-prone, and that shoulder injury was rectified. He suffered a new, unfortunate, injury in rd 1. He has suffered 4 injuries in 3 years, thats not a player who is injury-prone.

Dude I don't think he has ever strung 5 games together without being injured...

I just checked, his best ever effort is 6 games in a row, which also happens to be his most games ever in one season. 6.

The guy is most certainly injury prone if anyone ever has been in his career to date.

 

[Jabso]

Presti for full forward.

Seriously though he is a good player, and if he forces his way into the side it's a great thing for us. It may well be for Wakelin or even for Brown (Brown could play forward).

 

[G.O.B]

I personally cant see Presti forcing his way back into the team.
Too slow and too 1 dimensional.
Also, not too many gorillas left in the comp and the big bodies that are left would run him absolutely ragged.
Good backup if and when required or a good horses for courses option.
Not a regular in our best 22.

I have appreciated everything Presti has done for the club but we've moved on without him and I see no reason in going back.

 

[PieLebo87]

Dude I don't think he has ever strung 5 games together without being injured...

I just checked, his best ever effort is 6 games in a row, which also happens to be his most games ever in one season. 6.

The guy is most certainly injury prone if anyone ever has been in his career to date.

That makes him very unlucky, not injury-prone, mate.
As I said, he has suffered 4 injuries in 3 years. Thats not an injury-prone player.

You don't break a collarbone unless you've received a heavy hit.
He did his shoulder, okay, thats bad luck.
Second time it happens, okay, maybe he IS injury prone since its that same shoulder.
He cops a massive hit against Freo and does a shoulder, again, its from a heavy hit, it doesnt mean HE is injury prone, it means he is very unlucky.

If he cops another injury next year and its another season then maybe you can place question marks over him, but now is too early and unfair.

 

[Kirby]

Presti for full forward.

Seriously though he is a good player, and if he forces his way into the side it's a great thing for us. It may well be for Wakelin or even for Brown (Brown could play forward).

Jesus, if Wakelin and Presti are playing in the same backline that means we are officially stuffed.

 

[Smoky]

Its a great problem to have. With Presti being out of the game for neally 12 months he will have to come back through the reserves and you would say that he would need somewhere around 3 - 4 weekso even prove he can last 120 minutes of football. That being said with both of them being 100% physically and match fit i think it will depend on who we are playing and who matches up better against the opposition.

Brown is safe as his form warrants his spot be kept but he now takes the spearhead (Presti's old role) and I think Presti and Wakes will take each others spot.

Presti is the only reason I'll not be too disappointed if I have to change my signature!

 

[Pie eyed]

Once Presti is over his injury and has played sufficient VFL games to get "match fit" he is back in for mine.
Any other assumptions neglect to take into account that Collingwood always shows loyalty to a loyal serveant.
After that it is best man gets picked.