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It might sound bad but I can't help but think how good a news this is for Cadel. One less bloke to chase after.
 
I don't mind Leipheimer as a rider, but same as bigburger I'm happy for the other teams that Astana has been weakened a little bit. Popo, Rusk, Kloden etc. still a big ask for the other teams to deal with, especially with Cadel scoffing at the suggestion they work together to stop Astana.
 

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Pablo_Jackson said:
I don't like that Lepheimer is out because of injury, but it makes me smile that Astana are that little bit weaker now
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Yep bad news for Lepheimer but it is good for the tour imo. Adds a bit of interest and may not be the Astana walk in the park that we all thought it would be.
 
another flogger from my Fantasy team that i've put the mozz on.

Unfortunately Levi is one of my favourite cyclists - i was looking forward to seeing how he went today.
 
Astana are seriously missing him in my opinion. Hes probably the best pace setting domestique over mountains in the peleton.
 
Bond.ShaneBond said:
Except that to set the pace you have to get some wind in your face. Wheel-sucker to the max.
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yeah, but he will win the Vuelta this year, guaranteed. He must have loads of blood reserves left over.

And if you neutralise the 2006 Tour for disadvantages, I think LEvi comes out on top.

1st, loses 20 seconds in a penalty for hanging onto a car, on the stage Rasmussen won, when Rogers hit the deck. Levi had a mechanical, and got about 500 metres of the pack that was fast moving, and would have lost many minutes, but he cheated to get back on. Good stuff sniffler.

2. Because Contador showed such flamboyance and acceleration in the first mtn stage, they immediatelt gave team leadership to him. Then LEvi had to work for Contador, and not the other way around.

3. Final mtn stage where Rass wins, Levi in Levi;s inimitable, "attack, when there is not an attack" for Contador, not a technical attack, but raising the pace off the front, to help Contador drop Evans, and hopefully Rass, LEvi lost touch, and probably got to about 45 seconds behind, then, after they dropped Evans, LL catches up to Evans, passes Evans, then continues, and passes Contador. One wonders what would have happened if Contador was working for Levi.

Levi was only about 25 seconds off Evans, or maybe under 20 seconds. And only about one minute off Contador.

You do the math. Change team leadership, the race obviously changes, but could have LL beaten Evans? And obviously, if he was granted leadership, insinuated is he beats Contador axiomatically.
 
No doubt you know more about cycling than anyone here blackcat, and no doubt Levi is doped up enough to be a GC contender in all Grand Tours. But personally, I don't like hypothetical arguments. If he had have been team leader, sure he probably would have won, but he wasn't team leader. If Vino or Rasmussen hadn't been busted one of them probably would have won that year. It is very easy to say if and but, in the end he came third. And from everything that I have seen of him, I would stand by my statement that he is an epic wheelsucker.
 
Bond.ShaneBond said:
No doubt you know more about cycling than anyone here blackcat, and no doubt Levi is doped up enough to be a GC contender in all Grand Tours. But personally, I don't like hypothetical arguments. If he had have been team leader, sure he probably would have won, but he wasn't team leader. If Vino or Rasmussen hadn't been busted one of them probably would have won that year. It is very easy to say if and but, in the end he came third. And from everything that I have seen of him, I would stand by my statement that he is an epic wheelsucker.
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I would agree, wheelsucker.:D

I just think he will win the Vuelta this year, and Evans has never won anything of note. In cycling the win is everything.

No, Vino would not have won that year, his climbing peaked in 2002, he probably hit the jackpot with his medical program.

Matt White hates Levi from his time at USPS, called him the little Snivler, capitalised S. Snivler. Supposedly he was a whinger, big time, just a bad teammate.

On hypotheticals, concede that is correct. No one knows how racing will go on the road. It was more a normalisation of strength in the Tour, and saying LL rode very well.
 

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