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Master class - JUDD
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Robert Walls | July 15, 2008

ON FRIDAY night at the MCG, I saw one of the most inspirational efforts of the season. It was Carlton captain Chris Judd's burst of brilliance and desperation at the start of the final quarter.
At that point, the Blues were trailing by 33 points. Within 10 minutes the Saints were hanging on by barely a goal when an exhausted Judd was pulled from the field. In that time, Judd had willed himself to clear the ball on five occasions from ruck contests. There was nothing the Saints and his immediate opponent, Jason Gram, could do. Repeatedly Judd won hard, contested ball to send the Blues forward. It was only when Judd left the field that St Kilda got back on top.
At the end of the game, Judd was ranked No. 1 for disposals (30), contested possessions (15), clearances (9) and, with four tackles, was ranked sixth. No other player had such a devastating effect on the game as Judd did at the start of the last quarter. So I was absolutely shocked when, on Saturday morning, The Age and the Herald Sun could not fit him into the best five players on the ground. Do we judge our champions too harshly?
It made me think of Judd and the player he was at the Eagles, and the player he has had to become at Carlton. It was a much easier ride out west. The bigger Subiaco ground meant he had more space in which to use his pace. He roved to Dean Cox, the best ruckman in the business. Now he rarely receives a direct hit out from a kid and a trier. The kid is Matthew Kreuzer, who will one day be very good. The trier is Cameron Cloke who gives it his all but, against quality top ruckmen, will always come up short. Out west Judd had excellent support from Ben Cousins and Daniel Kerr. No midfield pair at Carlton comes close to that couple, although under Judd's leadership example, Bryce Gibbs and Marc Murphy are heading in the right direction.
At Carlton, Judd has to earn every kick he gets and has to wear the opposition's best tagging efforts week in, week out. But not once does he complain; he just puts his head down and works his butt off to win as much contested ball in heavy traffic as he can. Interviewed after the game, Gram marvelled at how the Brownlow medallist could still handball to advantage, even when two and three opponents were trying to drag him down.
Geelong should seriously consider sending Gary Ablett to go and watch Judd play. The raging hot Brownlow favourite is getting tagged each week and appears to be struggling with the close attention. I watched Ablett closely on Saturday and he let Docker Ryan Crowley get under his skin with his tight checking tactics. Ablett was continually trying to draw the umpire's attention to what his opponent was doing, rather than focusing on the football.

Ablett pushed himself deep forward halfway through the first quarter and was happy to let Steve Johnson, Matthew Stokes and Cam Mooney batter and bump his opponent. So obsessed was Johnson with protecting Ablett, he stopped thinking of winning the football and had to be taken from the field by his coach. Now Judd just wouldn't do that. He never squeals to umpires. He never engages in push and shove with opponents off the ball. He doesn't get caught up in verbals and, when the heat is on, he doesn't look for an easy out by retreating to the open forward line. And unlike Ablett, Judd doesn't have anyone at Carlton who goes out of their way to batter and bruise his opponent. No, Judd just pushes into heavy traffic to use his courage, skills, smarts and amazing will power.
It will surprise most people to learn that Judd is just eight months older than Ablett. They both debuted in 2002 and Ablett, although shorter, is three kilograms heavier.
It is admirable that the Geelong players are keen to defend Ablett, but it is important that he learns to stand on his own two feet. Judd is universally respected because everyone knows he can handle any heat that comes his way. Ablett still has to pass that test. And could Ablett have done for Carlton what Judd has? No.
 
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Walls is a ****ing tosser. You could just imagine him with his hands inside his pants while he was writing that.
 

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Lol, I want my 3 minutes of life back after reading that shit.

The sad thing is, Walls got paid for writing that. Tragic.

The age could have just flogged something from Bay 13. It is equally biased and just as factual.

How can you say the brownlow favorite can't handle a tag? Considering Ablett is fitter than Judd at the minute i would also assume that he could produce the same for Carlton.

Moral is that Walls is a **** on big $$ to write rubbish carlton biased pieces.
 
The age could have just flogged something from Bay 13. It is equally biased and just as factual.

How can you say the brownlow favorite can't handle a tag? Considering Ablett is fitter than Judd at the minute i would also assume that he could produce the same for Carlton.

Moral is that Walls is a **** on big $$ to write rubbish carlton biased pieces.

Hahaha, yeah he's always hated us. Whats new?

I have actually thought Gaz has generally toned down his back chat to the umpires. But I could be wrong I suppose.. I dont see as many replays of matches as I used to. The stuff about his teammates defending him is a load of crap. It's good to see that kind of thing, imo.
 
.....and meanwhile Judd played in another loss and Gaz got to sing the song again down at the Cattery. I agree with you blokes, if Walls is to write something about Carlton, he should lay off the Judd glory pieces and write something about how we go to sleep for 20 minutes each game and concede 5 goals that ultimately becomes the difference between winning and losing the game. Judd was fantastic on Friday and did his best to get us back in it but once again it was hitting the snooze button for a term that killed us. :(
 
.....and meanwhile Judd played in another loss and Gaz got to sing the song again down at the Cattery. I agree with you blokes, if Walls is to write something about Carlton, he should lay off the Judd glory pieces and write something about how we go to sleep for 20 minutes each game and concede 5 goals that ultimately becomes the difference between winning and losing the game. Judd was fantastic on Friday and did his best to get us back in it but once again it was hitting the snooze button for a term that killed us. :(

Pretty good post there. :thumbsu:

Buckley tho, sunk the boots in (to Fev) to make up for Walls. Heard him on Footy Classified last night.. was pretty brutal. But then again, not that he isnt biased either! ;)

Carlton are on the right track though it seems.
 
a) Judd was NOT tagged against St. Kilda.

b) One week ago, according to Walls and many others, Ablett was "un-tag-able", such was his ability break a tag.

c) Judd DOES squeal at the umpires. I've heard it & seen it live and on TV on multiple occasions. All players do it.

d) Walls has no credibility.

Given that Walls' kit bag only contains 6 or 7 'special comments' which he rotates ad nauseum every week, he would've at least remembered them before writing this contradictory drivel.

Guaranteed when Ablett plays next. Walls "....I just love the way that Ablett can just shake a tag and just gets on with his footy...."

D1ckhead.
 
Pretty good post there. :thumbsu:

Buckley tho, sunk the boots in (to Fev) to make up for Walls. Heard him on Footy Classified last night.. was pretty brutal. But then again, not that he isnt biased either! ;)

Carlton are on the right track though it seems.

Definitely on the right track Shell but when we kicked 2.8 in the first quarter after absolutely dominating the play I knew it was going to come back and bite us in the butt when we had our traditional lazy patch later in the game. Bad kicking = bad football.

Hopefully some good times ahead though. :thumbsu:

As for Bucks - well he was always that Rodger Ramjet character - puffing out his chest and showing his disappointment after a loss. I think Fev got the timing wrong to be looking non-plussed about the defeat but to be honest, putting his arm around Stevie Milne after the game or congratulating Maxie Hudgton who had beaten him clearly on the night was not going to change the scoreline. Buckley should pipe down and stick to trying to speak clearly during the broadcast. He's no Cometti that's for sure. :)
 
I thought this article might rub the cats the wrong way. What a pile of dogs droppings. Ablett has proven he can wear the best taggers in the country like comfy pyjamas and still be BOG time and time again, as can Judd when injury free. Gram is no great tagger. Walls is such a plonker.
 
b) One week ago, according to Walls and many others, Ablett was "un-tag-able", such was his ability break a tag.

That was the 1st thing that sprang to my mind.


Up to before 1/2 time Ablett had 13 possessions (6 contested), 4 tackles, 3 clearances, 2 inside 50's, 2 rebound 50's and a goal. Even if he didn't have a big 3rd or last qtr (often does now with his fitness) and continued with those statistics he would have finished with ...

26 possessions - only 4 less than judd
12 contested - 3 less than judd
8 tackles - 4 more than judd
6 clearances - 3 less than judd
2 goals - 2 more than judd

And considering judd was opposed to Gram, not known for his tagging ability as usually runs loose off 1/2 back, and Ablett had Crowley and/or Carr sitting in his back pocket I would say those stats aren't too far off.

which brings us back to ...
d) Walls has no credibility.
 
What gets me is that Ablett was on 13 possesions and a goal half way through the second. He was on track for another 30+ game with a goal or more.

Did Walls just read the stats and miss that he got injured?

The Judd Master Class? WTF is Ablett supposed to do?
 

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It baffles me that many people seem to be missing Walls' point.

He hasn't questioned Ablett's output he has questioned his ability to handle tags without responding and letting a little bit of niggle get to him. He basically says that Judd is better at ignoring the attention and getting on with the job
 
Yes, it's hard to take Walls seriously. He does contradict himself week to week. It's amazing that ablett can cop so much criticism after such a great win. He was on track for a good game until the injury.
 
It baffles me that many people seem to be missing Walls' point.

He hasn't questioned Ablett's output he has questioned his ability to handle tags without responding and letting a little bit of niggle get to him. He basically says that Judd is better at ignoring the attention and getting on with the job

Which I don't agree with and I would imagine quite a few others do too. I think ablett copes with a tag better than anyone in the afl.
 
Which I don't agree with and I would imagine quite a few others do too. I think ablett copes with a tag better than anyone in the afl.

Statistically he copes with it fine but that's not what Walls was getting at. A lot of the things Walls said in the article were right on the money. Basing his argument on the strength of one match is the only thing that i don't really agree with.
 
Statistically he copes with it fine but that's not what Walls was getting at. A lot of the things Walls said in the article were right on the money. Basing his argument on the strength of one match is the only thing that i don't really agree with.

I believe ablett and the team went out with a predetermined plan to target crowley (I gleaned that from what I heard on the radio before the game). They were just adhering to the plan imo.
 
It baffles me that many people seem to be missing Walls' point.

He hasn't questioned Ablett's output he has questioned his ability to handle tags without responding and letting a little bit of niggle get to him. He basically says that Judd is better at ignoring the attention and getting on with the job

If you'd watched Ablett at all over the past 18 months you'd realise he doesn't mind being tagged. It's being constantly punched, kneed, kicked and elbowed behind play by useless shitheads like crowley that bothers him. As long as the tagger doesn't indulge in sniping tactics he is fine. And going by his stats against Freo, you could hardly suggest he doesn't get on with the game. He was well within his right to ask the umpires to watch what Crowley was up to - Judd would have done exactly the same thing.
 

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If you'd watched Ablett at all over the past 18 months you'd realise he doesn't mind being tagged. It's being constantly punched, kneed, kicked and elbowed behind play by useless shitheads like crowley that bothers him. As long as the tagger doesn't indulge in sniping tactics he is fine. And going by his stats against Freo, you could hardly suggest he doesn't get on with the game. He was well within his right to ask the umpires to watch what Crowley was up to - Judd would have done exactly the same thing.

And i'm not arguing with any of that. My point was that Walls never questioned Ablett's output, which a few people seem to think he did
 
He basically said Ablett was more concerned about whinging to umpires than going and getting the footy, which the stats people posted suggest he didn't. Ablett does complain to umpires, as do many players about many things and that includes Judd.

He also said insinuated Ablett was weak for 'hiding' in the forward line because he was being tagged. I suppose it was waaay too far out there to suggest that Ablett spends time in the forward line as a like, tactic or something. I bet he was more than happy to highlight the week before with that bench incident when SJ told him off for running up the ground while he was supposed to be resting up forward, but this week its something else.

The last few years Walls has been a broken record going through a circle of the same issues over and over with his quasi bogan writing style and it's getting a little tired. He has next to no insight, and I don't give a **** how much he loves ruckmen.
 
Who cares whether Judd ignores taggers more than Ablett? Ablett still dominates most games which indicates he deals with a tag better than anyone else in the league.

Ablett is alot more consistent than Judd. Didn't see that mentioned. Obviously ignoring taggers is more important than being consistent.:rolleyes: Walls is just over analysing Judd, looking for anything to pump him up. In saying that, I do rate Judd highly. This isn't a Judd bagging post.
 
It baffles me that many people seem to be missing Walls' point.

He hasn't questioned Ablett's output he has questioned his ability to handle tags without responding and letting a little bit of niggle get to him. He basically says that Judd is better at ignoring the attention and getting on with the job

Im not sure if juddy cop's it as hard as gary does (None gay ish)
But i dont really watch Juddy that close to tell the truth, Does he get knocked around as much as Gaz ?
 
Statistically he copes with it fine but that's not what Walls was getting at. A lot of the things Walls said in the article were right on the money. Basing his argument on the strength of one match is the only thing that i don't really agree with.

I am glad you added that bit especially considering the tags each had this week. But Walls was the one to make it not only about the response Ablett had (asking umpires to take more notice and retaliating) when he brought up judds stats.

At the end of the game, Judd was ranked No. 1 for disposals (30), contested possessions (15), clearances (9) and, with four tackles, was ranked sixth.

He then indicated that Ablett loss focus on the ball which is not indicated by his ability to win possessions, I agree he complained but it didn't stop him going for the ball as it occurred during stoppages..

Ablett was continually trying to draw the umpire's attention to what his opponent was doing, rather than focusing on the football.
 
And i'm not arguing with any of that. My point was that Walls never questioned Ablett's output, which a few people seem to think he did

If he is not questioning Ablett's output, then what is the point of the article?

If Ablett is judged on any other basis than how well he actually plays, then what is the point? If he seems to get a bit agitated every now and then (which is debatable), and still rips the other team to shreds, who cares?

This is one of the more pointless pieces of "journalism" (I use this term lightly as it infers a level of research was undertaken) that you will see.
 

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