matthew lloyd

[matty lloyd the champ]

how will he perform after a long time out of the game
will his agility, strength or accuracy be affected
if so by how much
any suggestions

 

[Kaitsey]

i doubt it'll be that much, hes had a full preseason.

 

[FieryNayta]

he will probably be a bit rusty. But wont be anything to worry about. He should iron out the kinks after one or two games, and get back into the flow of competition.

 

[pol06]

ben dixon was critised by many callers on SEN for saying lloyd is a hundred goal forward this year

surely when he kicks 70-80 goals and takes away the best defender along with seting up a heap more this equates to being worth one hundred goals!

 

[Shane Hird]

The real question that i wanna know is will Lloydy stick to his grass tossing,sock pulling,jumper tucking routine while getting ready to have a shot?

After a year out,he might have changed it We will see 2nite

 

[Crave]

The real question that i wanna know is will Lloydy stick to his grass tossing,sock pulling,jumper tucking routine while getting ready to have a shot?

After a year out,he might have changed it We will see 2nite

I think he keeps that sort of thing confined to the bedroom, Nobby. Besides, Id suggest he uses lube for the grass tossing.

 

[HBF]

I'm sure he'll be a bit rusty considering he's been out of the game for so long. Hopefully he doesn't run-a-mock against us tonight. At least we have some options if it is looking that way.

 

[Thrawn]

I'm sure he'll be a bit rusty considering he's been out of the game for so long. Hopefully he doesn't run-a-mock against us tonight. At least we have some options if it is looking that way.

I thought O'hAlpin did OK on him.

 

[Crave]

I thought O'hAlpin did OK on him.

He went alright, that Setanta. Didnt realise how big he was in stature.

 

[Not a Wellman]

That Jarrad Waite is a gun, sorry for the captain obvious but he really is going to be an unsung hero of Carltons side because fev, murphey, gibbs and stevens will all take most of the glory.

 

[thylacine60]

That Jarrad Waite is a gun, sorry for the captain obvious but he really is going to be an unsung hero of Carltons side because fev, murphey, gibbs and stevens will all take most of the glory.

Know where you're coming from but not quite unsung. We've been waiting for him to dominate for a while now. His kicking and ferocity at the contest have been issues. Now he gets to run straight at the ball and carry it we hopefully will see what he is capable of.

 

[monty1104]

Hopefully Lloyd has the cobwebs out of his system and is raring to go come round 1.

 

[Not a Wellman]

Am I the only bloke that thinks Lloydy in a few matches once he's got back into some match fitness and back with the speed of the game should be playing at Centre Half Forward?

Now we have Johns this should mean options and I just keep thinking back to a Kangas game a few years ago Lloyd dominated at chf 18 marks or so, and the port game in 2004 at telstra dome he played CHF and FF.

If he didn't break his arm then do his hammy there is no doubt he would of been playing chf.

Johns FF Lloyd CHF Lucas attacking CHB play him on the 6 th best forward let him run a muck.

 

[Boris_Bewick]

I don't think he has the same mobility as he once had to play CHF. The days of him taking 18 marks a game off half forward would be over I think.
He has the power to outmuscle and get someone on a quick lead from full forward, and he has such a great kick for goals from 30-50 metres out that it's hard to waste it.
Also Scotty in my opinion is a much better option for CHF. If he gets it from 50, he's more than 50-50 to drill a goal. If he gets it further up the ground, say the wing, he'd be the best option to hit Lloyd from that far out, or at least bomb it down there long and quick enough to beat the flood.

I think the Port game he was mainly FF and also at the height of his powers. And that was a huge game he put in, just ask Chad Cornes. Coming out from full forward to meet the ball at the 50 metre, then pushing back would be his best role I think.

Johns is tough and not sure what role he should play just yet. He doesn't need to do much. Hopefully average around 1-1.5 goals a game from maybe the forward pocket on the third back? And have some 4-5 goal games along the way.

 

[Andyt30]

give him time it would take a while to get back to normal especally after having nearly all of 2006 out injured look at kouta after his injuires and he's playing alot better hope Lloyd has a full uninterrupted season even if they have to rotate him sometimes during a game even if their way miles ahead
i tip he'll play alot better when we play essendon during the H & A

 

[gillyrulz]

i hopehe comes back better than ever and kicks 100

 

[Crave]

Am I the only bloke that thinks Lloydy in a few matches once he's got back into some match fitness and back with the speed of the game should be playing at Centre Half Forward?

Now we have Johns this should mean options and I just keep thinking back to a Kangas game a few years ago Lloyd dominated at chf 18 marks or so, and the port game in 2004 at telstra dome he played CHF and FF.

If he didn't break his arm then do his hammy there is no doubt he would of been playing chf.

Johns FF Lloyd CHF Lucas attacking CHB play him on the 6 th best forward let him run a muck.

I agree with you there, only way we can play all 3 in the same forward 50. Lloyd would be marking everything forward of the centre circle Id imagine.

 

[Boris_Bewick]

I agree with you there, only way we can play all 3 in the same forward 50. Lloyd would be marking everything forward of the centre circle Id imagine.

So you think Lucas would be an attacking CHB? Would he play on the gun CHF's? I just think Lucas would be a much more effective CHF than Lloyd would, now or before his injury. And is John's fit or even good enough at this stage to take full forward. Lucas down back would mean John's would get the second back. Doesn't sound like much of a difference for third. But I would much rather Johns on say, for example Saddington, instead of Waite or Thornton. It does pose the question of who would play CHB, but with Mal Michael in the side it's not as big of an issue. but I still think it has more con's to our forward line than pro's to our back to have Lucas down there.

 

[danzan22]

So you think Lucas would be CHB? Would he play on the gun CHF's? I just think Lucas would be a much more effective CHF than Lloyd would, now or before his injury.

I would get him to do that, in 03 he showed us hes a good CHB and atm we need all the help down back we can get, this would free up fletcher to become a more attacking rebounding defender.

 

[Longy413]

I would get him to do that, in 03 he showed us hes a good CHB and atm we need all the help down back we can get, this would free up fletcher to become a more attacking rebounding defender.

Scotty showed he could be a weapon across CHB, he didn't really show that he was capable of stopping the monster CHF's. He wasn't and he isn't capable of doing that. He doesn't have a great defensive game.

McPhee and NLM are both more than capable of giving us plenty of drive from half back. Welsh and McVeigh likewise.

 

[danzan22]

Scotty showed he could be a weapon across CHB, he didn't really show that he was capable of stopping the monster CHF's. He wasn't and he isn't capable of doing that. He doesn't have a great defensive game.

McPhee and NLM are both more than capable of giving us plenty of drive from half back. Welsh and McVeigh likewise.

I wish he would come back to his 04 form, would help the team out greatly.

 

[Boris_Bewick]

Scotty showed he could be a weapon across CHB, he didn't really show that he was capable of stopping the monster CHF's. He wasn't and he isn't capable of doing that. He doesn't have a great defensive game.
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That was my thoughts. Riewoldt, Pavlich or a fit Tredrea would beat Lucas convincingly. The reason we drafted Michael is to allow Fletcher to play the role he was born for. That is the same role some people want Lucas to play down back. Lucas and Fletcher both playing 'creative' roles on half back wouldn't be beneficial to us. In saying that we still need to find that CHB to do the job. I don't think it's Lucas.
I still think Lloyd is a much better FF and Scotty is a much better CHF forward than each other. Where have they both played their best footy?

 

[Longy413]

Fletcher can play CHB, Fletcher is a definsively minded player. He beats his man first, but he's smart enough to know when he can drop off.

Fletch knows when to leave his man, Scotty doesn't. Scotty is a kick chaser and that's fine, but you don't want him playing on key forward every week.

Fletch playing on a key forward will still offer us plenty in attack, he's good enough to do that, he always has been. I still think Michael will play on the monster forwards and I also think teams will try and drag Fletcher back to the square, which isn't necessarily a bad thing.

Like Lloyd/Johns/Lucas forward and the new hands in the back rule, the Fletcher/Michael combination is going to take some time to work. McPhee could very well benefit the most from having Michael in the side.

 

[Boris_Bewick]

True, but I still would rather someone else on the gun CHF than Fletcher, to give him more of a roaming attacking backmen role. At the moment though we probably don't have that player. Although the gun forwards like Hall, Tredrea, Brown etc. usually move between CHF and FF anyway, so Michael would probably get them.