Opinion Matthew Nicks: Adelaide's Coach (Part 2) - Full Support of the Board

[Pugsley]

Mate you’ve got a SANFL persecution complex!

George, both of us being Norwood supporters we should have the SANFL persecution complex.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Who? And not that who.

I'm not going to try and out anyone, respect the site. It would be incredibly naïve though to think journalists, players, coaches aren't frequent uses of bigfooty.

 

[adelaidecrows]

Penbo has spoken about Big footy on air before and it wasnt high praise, it was a couple years ago and i dont remember what he said though

I can't remember exactly, but I believe it was in the early days of the rebuild and there were a lot of negatives posters on here who couldn't get around the idea and just spent their time saying horrendous things about those involved in the club. I think it was thoroughly deserving. Sometimes this place can get too negative. But only a fool would disregard everything posted on this site as nothing more than the meanderings of a neanderthal no nothing. They know full well there is a lot of accurate information that passes through this site which means we definitely do have posters who are somewhat involved in the industry.

 

[Sanders]

If you’re interested in alternative viewpoints then why the heck are you mocking my alternative view point?

Same reason everyone else does

I come on here for a discussion, doesn’t mean I have to absorb others’ opinions. You think what you want to think, and I do my own thinking.

That’s never been true. Ever

 

[adelaidecrows]

It is true though that there is a massive persecution complex in SA footy.

I think the mentality goes back to the late 80s when the SA footy media were massively pushing the Anti-Victoria narrative and used to claim that Victoria was jealous of SA and how their ultimate goal was to "destroy the SANFL". I suspect the SANFL were very much part of it too.

While promoting that mentality used to work a treat to promote the State of Origin games, unfortunately that mentality eventually became endemic with the SA football public and created a culture of having a persecution complex and people believing that the AFL has some sort of hidden agenda against the Crows for some inexplicable reason.

I've seen people on here who actually believe that the AFL has some secret agenda against the club and everything is part of some big conspiracy to ensure that the Crows aren't successful.

I agree, the Sanfl was heavily anti-victorian throughout that time and even in the 90s it took a long time for clubs to come around to the idea of the AFL as some teams treated AFL listed players very poorly. Norwood being one of them.

There is no AFL agenda against the Crows. As one of the richer and most supported clubs in the competition, the AFL tends to use us a lot to pump up ratings in low market areas and obviously play our home games in average time slots because they know our fans turn up. if anything it is actually a compliment and says a lot about victorian clubs who if they dont get the prime time slot, cant attract a crowd.

The umpiring issues are merely bad luck, exacerbated by us consistently chasing games under Nicks. The only real inexcusable decision was the goal umpire. Other than that, we have been our own worst enemy. To blame the umpires is to completely over look the flaws in our game plan.

 

[relapse]

Mate you’ve got a SANFL persecution complex!

There's no complex, you tell me what other club has the financial burden we do to the SANFL.

We've had our competitive advantage eaten away through paying about 15 million for an AFL licence, not to mention one of the worst stadium deals in football, paying for stands at Footy Park and also paying 500k a year to play in the SANFL etc the list goes on and on

No point whinging about having shit coaches if you have no problem with us giving away money and having the burden of having to foot the bill for things no other club has to pay. Ultimately its more than likely a big reason why we can't afford to splurge for decent coaches.

 

[George Kramer]

There's no complex, you tell me what other club has the financial burden we do to the SANFL.

We've had our competitive advantage eaten away through paying about 15 million for an AFL licence, not to mention one of the worst stadium deals in football, paying for stands at Footy Park and also paying 500k a year to play in the SANFL etc the list goes on and on

No point whinging about having s**t coaches if you have no problem with us giving away money and having the burden of having to foot the bill for things no other club has to pay. Ultimately its more than likely a big reason why we can't afford to splurge for decent coaches.

You reckon we can’t afford decent coaches? Paying under the soft cap?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I agree, the Sanfl was heavily anti-victorian throughout that time and even in the 90s it took a long time for clubs to come around to the idea of the AFL as some teams treated AFL listed players very poorly. Norwood being one of them.

There is no AFL agenda against the Crows. As one of the richer and most supported clubs in the competition, the AFL tends to use us a lot to pump up ratings in low market areas and obviously play our home games in average time slots because they know our fans turn up. if anything it is actually a compliment and says a lot about victorian clubs who if they dont get the prime time slot, cant attract a crowd.

The umpiring issues are merely bad luck, exacerbated by us consistently chasing games under Nicks. The only real inexcusable decision was the goal umpire. Other than that, we have been our own worst enemy. To blame the umpires is to completely over look the flaws in our game plan.

It's a money game

The AFL's fortunes don't rise or fall on our performances as they do with Essendon, Richmond, Carlton, Collingwood. So the AFL has no vested interest in seeing us succeed.

Likewise we do not become a financial burden when we're struggling like Bulldogs, Port. So the AFL has no vested interest in lifting us out of the mire during down times.

Whether these financial realities have an impact on AFL decision making...? In the eye of the beholder I guess.

Regarding umpire bias, we've seen this occur with Jack Ginnivan. Not getting the frees he deserves because of his previous actions. Umpires now have a subconscious bias against him.

We know why it happened with him (boy who cried wolf) but what other biases exist?

It was telling that after the Pannell 17-1 free kick game the umpire head honcho was asked if individual umpire's free kick histories were tracked to detect bias towards or against certain clubs. "No... why would we need to do that? The umpires aren't biased," was the response.

Hmmm.

The individual umpire free kick tallies are hidden from view. Pannellgate only occurred because some whistle-blower took a screen shot during the closing stages of the match. The data is not available anywhere publicly. Quite deliberately I'm sure.

 

[adelaidecrows]

It's a money game

The AFL's fortunes don't rise or fall on our performances as they do with Essendon, Richmond, Carlton, Collingwood. So the AFL has no vested interest in seeing us succeed.

Likewise we do not become a financial burden when we're struggling like Bulldogs, Port. So the AFL has no vested interest in lifting us out of the mire during down times.

Whether these financial realities have an impact on AFL decision making...? In the eye of the beholder I guess.

Regarding umpire bias, we've seen this occur with Jack Ginnivan. Not getting the frees he deserves because of his previous actions. Umpires now have a subconscious bias against him.

We know why it happened with him (boy who cried wolf) but what other biases exist?

It was telling that after the Pannell 17-1 free kick game the umpire head honcho was asked if individual umpire's free kick histories were tracked to detect bias towards or against certain clubs. "No... why would we need to do that? The umpires aren't biased," was the response.

Hmmm.

The individual umpire free kick tallies are hidden from view. Pannellgate only occurred because some whistle-blower took a screen shot during the closing stages of the match. The data is not available anywhere publicly. Quite deliberately I'm sure.

Pannell didn't last too much longer though. Even though he was around for a few years, he struggled to make a full season. Which means the AFL umpiring fraternity new full well he wasn't up to the task. He failed out probably because of that game, it exposed him badly to his superiors and despite repeated warnings, he couldn't over come it.

All good points about money and its created bias though.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

"those football nerds who don't have lives that just spend their lives sitting around all day on forums over analyzing football"

 

[El Doederino]

You're right it wasn't positive praise.

He called us something along the lines of "Football Nerds" and said something similar to "those football nerds who don't have lives that just spend their lives sitting around all day on forums over analyzing football"

And yet his on air mate posts here regularly

 

[CrowBloke]

You prefer old #CrowBloke or #OldCrowBloke?
Or #old(1 + #CrowBloke)?
Solve for CrowBloke.

Sorry to do this, but #Crowbloke is the common factor, mate.
==> becomes #Crowbloke(old +1)

btw, I'd like to thank all of the posters who asked me for the solution to this**:
"Which is the larger number, 2^60 or 7^20?".
It's easier than it looks.
The clue is in the Exponents' bases.
2^60 is (2^3)^20, which is 8^20 which is larger than 7^20, by inspection.

** all none of you,

 

[Samcro24]

And yet his on air mate posts here regularly

Who

 

[Slippery Pete]

Such a disappointing club. You’d think they’d have given us something over the journey.

B&F? Nup
Captain? Nope
Leading goal kicker? Nada

We’re not counting Tex, Nord was just his temporary club while Neil taught him how to keep his man boundary side.

Here’s the best part- One single solitary lonely all Australian selection - Nathan Bassett. One!

James Tiffany Amber Thiessen can’t even spell his surname right.

Some say Brett James was a great footballer, can you even be called a great footballer if you only handball?

Pitman was pathetic.

I keep hearing about Gary the GOAT but can’t for the life of me see what AFL club he played for. Do you mean Ablett? The other best player was a skinny religious fella who also didn’t play at the top level. I sense a pattern.

As far as I can tell, the only thing Nord has contributed to the AFC is two thirds of the club colours.

/rant

George Kramer What should we do with this prick?

 

[Slippery Pete]

And yet his on air mate posts here regularly

What?

 

[Samcro24]

What?

Who!

 

[Slippery Pete]

Who!

I don’t know

 

[Samcro24]

I don’t know

George says it’s him but I have my doubts

 

[Gtowncrow]

You prefer old #CrowBloke or #OldCrowBloke?
Or #old(1 + #CrowBloke)?
Solve for CrowBloke.

I'm prepared to offer the coaches job to most of our BF board. It's full of old crow blokes...and a few old crow gals too.

(Gen Z or younger can argue with me on my What's Ticking Gram Snap app)

 

[George Kramer]

George Kramer What should we do with this prick?

Smash his face in

 

[Samcro24]

Smash his face in

 

[FR0GGY]

Who

Definitely not

 

[Stephen2]

Sorry to do this, but #Crowbloke is the common factor, mate.
==> becomes #Crowbloke(old +1)

btw, I'd like to thank all of the posters who asked me for the solution to this**:
"Which is the larger number, 2^60 or 7^20?".
It's easier than it looks.
The clue is in the Exponents' bases.
2^60 is (2^3)^20, which is 8^20 which is larger than 7^20, by inspection.

** all none of you,

60 log(2) ~= 18.06 > 20 log(7) ~= 16.9

Isn't that easier old mate maybe you gotta learn the new ways

 

[CrowBloke]

Apologies to the Thread; this probably belongs in a PM, but Stephen2 replied in here, so ...

How to say "OK, Boomer", without saying "OK, Boomer" :

60 log(2) ~= 18.06 > 20 log(7) ~= 16.9

Isn't that easier old mate

"Old" is right .

Easier? Time-easier maybe. Good for my brain? No.
I'll explain.

I used the best Calculator known to humans; my brain + my knowledge of Exponent manipulation.
I didn't have to calculate a thing. Just did a little mental juggling.
Didn't write anything down, or pick anything up, turn it on or press any buttons.

If you know what log(2) and log(7) are --- I don't, not even approximately --- and can do the multiplications in your head, kudos . That's impressive.
But I'm guessing you used a calculator, pushed a few buttons and the machine did the work for you while your brain stayed in "off" mode. Calculators are great for complex calculations, but that's it.
I could train a chicken to recognise the symbols and numbers and push those buttons you used with its beak, for a grain of corn, all the way down to "=".

What's more, I'll bet I did it quicker without using a calculator and I got some very valuable brain exercise at the same time. At my age, I need it, lol@me .

maybe you gotta learn the new ways

I understand your solution just fine --- it is correct --- but I didn't need "the new ways".
Your solution was outsourced to technology (unless you did it in your noggin, to which I repeat, kudos) which is making human brains lazier and duller by the day.

In 2013 I had a Year 11 Maths student blithely use a calculator to do 30 x 10 . I swear, I am not making that up.
That's what calculators have done to them. Stupendously lazy brains. Glazed-eyes Eloi.

As part of my preamble with a new Maths class at the start of the year, I'd choose students at random and say,
what's 25 x 17?
what's 25 x 74?
what's 25 x 43?
I only ever got shocked confusion. Then I'd say to them:
"OK, here's the deal. If I can teach you how to multiply any 2-digit number by 25 in 5 minutes in your head, then you have to pay attention and listen to me. If not, you can slack off and give me Hell, deal?".
The challenge was always accepted, with laughter.
Of course it depends on their ability to know the 4-times-table, but I got enough converts after 5 minutes for us to be off and running . It (the challenge of brain-exercise) always worked.

Calculator-and-tech-dependence encouraged by tech-dependent teachers is one of the massive failings of the modern S.A. Education system.

 

[GreyCrow]

As part of my preamble with a new Maths class at the start of the year, I'd choose students at random and say,
what's 25 x 17?
what's 25 x 74?
what's 25 x 43?

2 minutes at most

1st one about 20 seconds - 25 x 20 - 75 425
25 x 80 - 150 = 1850
25 x 40 + 75 = 1075