Matty Bode.......?

[Mad Dog]

Matty Bode has been a very popular member of our club, but with season ending shoulder surgery imminent, I'm wondering what his prospects are for continuing his career with us.

After only 1 game in 2001 with foot issues, Matty played every game bar 6 over the following 2 years, however injuries and form have only seen him add a further 11 games since Round 1 2004.

There was some discussion last year as to his place in the squad, and before this recent setback, further discussion as to whether he will survive at the end of this year.

As at Round 22 last year, I saw him as being in front of Gallagher (sacked), Schuback, Skipworth, Shirley, Doughty, Mattner in the pecking order........but behind Roo, Macca, Goody, Phoon, Stiff, Reilly, Stinger (gawn).

As at Round 14 this year, (without considering his injury), I still see him behind Roo, Macca, Goody, Phoon, Stiff, Reilly......but now you could add Thommo, Mattner, Skippy, Shirley......with probably only Doughty and Schuey behind him.

If you then add the emergence of The Count and Knights, and the development imperative that demands they be considered and played sooner than later...........I wonder where that leaves Bodey ???

Surely this recent setback is 1 too many straws for the Dromedary to bare....and will cause NC and his merry band to seriously contemplate Bodey's capacity to add value for 2006 and beyond.....

Discuss...

 

[crowsarethebest]

Matty Bode has been a very popular member of our club, but with season ending shoulder surgery imminent, I'm wondering what his prospects are for continuing his career with us.

After only 1 game in 2001 with foot issues, Matty played every game bar 6 over the following 2 years, however injuries and form have only seen him add a further 11 games since Round 1 2004.

There was some discussion last year as to his place in the squad, and before this recent setback, further discussion as to whether he will survive at the end of this year.

As at Round 22 last year, I saw him as being in front of Gallagher (sacked), Schuback, Skipworth, Shirley, Doughty, Mattner in the pecking order........but behind Roo, Macca, Goody, Phoon, Stiff, Reilly, Stinger (gawn).

As at Round 14 this year, (without considering his injury), I still see him behind Roo, Macca, Goody, Phoon, Stiff, Reilly......but now you could add Thommo, Mattner, Skippy, Shirley......with probably only Doughty and Schuey behind him.

If you then add the emergence of The Count and Knights, and the development imperative that demands they be considered and played sooner than later...........I wonder where that leaves Bodey ???

Surely this recent setback is 1 too many straws for the Dromedary to bare....and will cause NC and his merry band to seriously contemplate Bodey's capacity to add value for 2006 and beyond.....

Discuss...

Yes i think he is probably gone. I thought he looked like a pretty good player, but injuries and bad form haven't seen him in the side for a while. Will be lucky to stay on the list IMHO but I'll miss him if he goes .

 

[Mong]

Many people on here think Bode is gone, and that's without any season ending injury. But personally, I think there are too many players behind him on the list and he will stay. That's my opinion. I also think that the coaching staff rate him.

Some of the players to go before Bode: Ladhams, Smith, Stevens, Stevens, Begley, Massie, Schuback, Krueger. There are enough there for me to think Bode gets another chance. I mean guys like Begley and Massie have played less than Bode this year, but unlike Bode, haven't been injured.

Our midfield is still reasonably old. We thought it was old last year and not a lot has changed. We have a few youngsters knocking on the door like van Berlo and Knights, but they lack experience. Bode is the in between aged player that we have very few of. I think he has a part to play in our transition stage when Ricciuto, McLeod, Goodwin, Edwards are lost from the midfield.

 

[baaaallllll]

Many people on here think Bode is gone, and that's without any season ending injury. But personally, I think there are too many players behind him on the list and he will stay. That's my opinion. I also think that the coaching staff rate him.

Some of the players to go before Bode: Ladhams, Smith, Stevens, Stevens, Begley, Massie, Schuback, Krueger. There are enough there for me to think Bode gets another chance. I mean guys like Begley and Massie have played less than Bode this year, but unlike Bode, haven't been injured.

Our midfield is still reasonably old. We thought it was old last year and not a lot has changed. We have a few youngsters knocking on the door like van Berlo and Knights, but they lack experience. Bode is the in between aged player that we have very few of. I think he has a part to play in our transition stage when Ricciuto, McLeod, Goodwin, Edwards are lost from the midfield.

Agree with the above.

We have a lot of dead wood on our list but we still need some depth to our list. There are only so many players that you can delist and replace with draft picks and I think there are enoughplayers infront of Bode to be delisted before he goes.

Unless of course we were to "top up" our list like Ayres did with Burns and Carey then Bode is safe.

 

[DaveW]

****, Begley has played five games this year to Bode's two (and Massie one).

 

[Mad Dog]

Agree with the above.

We have a lot of dead wood on our list but we still need some depth to our list. There are only so many players that you can delist and replace with draft picks and I think there are enoughplayers infront of Bode to be delisted before he goes.

Unless of course we were to "top up" our list like Ayres did with Burns and Carey then Bode is safe.

Yours and ****'s arguements are quite relevant.....maybe the only thing that will save Matty is the excess of mediocrity that needs dealing with first. Many people had Bode in their starting 22 at the beginning of the year....(and I was one of them from memory)....it's just interesting how the club has evolved in only 14 rounds to the point where we now see Bodey as "depth only". I personally can't see a reason, other than about 3 or 4 injuries to midfield/small types, that could justify his inclusion come 2006.......but of course we need to allow for that possibility...which is why he might survive.

 

[Mong]

****, Begley has played five games this year to Bode's two (and Massie one).

Ok, sorry.

 

[Stinger...]

who?

 

[Jars458]

Can't see us delisting both Massie and Begley.

Both have had excellent form in the SANFL.

Same for S Stevens - he has been quite good in the SANFL.

Our depth has yet to be tested.

For me the only certainties to go are M Stevens M Smith and C Ladhams at this stage. We only need to delist two more. That is very up in the air at the moment.

 

[crowsarethebest]

Can't see us delisting both Massie and Begley.

Both have had excellent form in the SANFL.

Same for S Stevens - he has been quite good in the SANFL.

Our depth has yet to be tested.

For me the only certainties to go are M Stevens M Smith and C Ladhams at this stage. We only need to delist two more. That is very up in the air at the moment.

Clarkey might retire.

 

[macca23]

Can't see us delisting both Massie and Begley.

Both have had excellent form in the SANFL.

Same for S Stevens - he has been quite good in the SANFL.

Our depth has yet to be tested.

For me the only certainties to go are M Stevens M Smith and C Ladhams at this stage. We only need to delist two more. That is very up in the air at the moment.

Agree with those 3 Jars, but I think you can add Schuback to that list as well.

7 games in 4 years and no defined spot for him in sight. Appears to be a small HFF and no more than that.Has more than his fair share of injuries as well. In fact it is interesting when you note that he hasn't played one game under Neil Craig either last year or this year.

Looks a goner to me.

 

[DJ75]

Agree with those 3 Jars, but I think you can add Schuback to that list as well.

7 games in 4 years and no defined spot for him in sight. Appears to be a small HFF and no more than that.Has more than his fair share of injuries as well. In fact it is interesting when you note that he hasn't played one game under Neil Craig either last year or this year.

Looks a goner to me.

I think Bode will go (a bad recruiting decision that his presence just keeps reminding us about!)
I would think the following will not be on the list next year:
Retirement:
M. Stevens
M. Clarke

Delist:
M. Bode
J. Krueger
C. Ladhams
M. Smith
S. Stevens

Lucky:
J. Begley
K. Massie
J. Schuback

Rookies:
R. Andrews (gone)
R. Nye (promote)
J. Griffin (promote)
J. Hinge (retain)

Will clear some of the dead wood, allow the influx of new blood on main list and rookie list and still provide 'depth'.

 

[drakeyv2]

I'll wait until the end of the season to play this game.

Bode could come back in this week for Skipworth & put in a blinder.

 

[Mad Dog]

I'll wait until the end of the season to play this game.

Bode could come back in this week for Skipworth & put in a blinder.

he's having a shoulder operation....hence the thread...

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Bode will never get to the level we want because of his poor disposal. IMO, he is on the fringe of beign delisted & whether he stays on the list will depend on the others also on the fringe (if we didn't have so many delist options, he would be a goner). Getting this injury isn't going to help his cause though.

 

[drakeyv2]

he's having a shoulder operation....hence the thread...

Right. I thought he was going to wait until the end of the year.

Might be a good sign for him. get the sholder right for next year.

 

[StickerMan]

I personally think that Kris Massie has been a bit stiff. He continually goes back to Norwood and plays well getting 20-30 touches a game, compared to Bode, who IMO should be dominating SANFL footy, especially with the bagging that Gary Ayres got for not picking him.

IMO Bode is overrated. I think with Scott Thompson on our list there is no point having Bode as they are similar-style players, but Thommo is absolutely miles in front of Bode in terms of ability and effectiveness.

If the choice was between Bode and Knights I know who i would be choosing....

 

[Mad Dog]

Right. I thought he was going to wait until the end of the year.

Might be a good sign for him. get the sholder right for next year.

Ch 9 reported last night he was heading in soon for a "season ending shoulder operation"..

 

[slappy]

Many people on here think Bode is gone, and that's without any season ending injury. But personally, I think there are too many players behind him on the list and he will stay. That's my opinion. I also think that the coaching staff rate him.

Some of the players to go before Bode: Ladhams, Smith, Stevens, Stevens, Begley, Massie, Schuback, Krueger. There are enough there for me to think Bode gets another chance. I mean guys like Begley and Massie have played less than Bode this year, but unlike Bode, haven't been injured.

Our midfield is still reasonably old. We thought it was old last year and not a lot has changed. We have a few youngsters knocking on the door like van Berlo and Knights, but they lack experience. Bode is the in between aged player that we have very few of. I think he has a part to play in our transition stage when Ricciuto, McLeod, Goodwin, Edwards are lost from the midfield.

i agree with that. bode is the sort of depth player that we need if things go pear shaped.

he wouldnt be on much, no one else is gonna be interested in him and its not as if he is some useless hack wasting a spot on the list.

 

[Lozza71]

Bode's shoulder surgery
1:25:03 PM Thu 7 July, 2005
Sportal for afl.com.au

Adelaide midfielder Matthew Bode has had surgery to reconstruct his left shoulder and will not play again this season.

Bode played the first two AFL games this season before hurting his shoulder, and he received another heavy knock while playing for Glenelg in the SANFL last Saturday.

Adelaide said in a media release that it had been a mutual decision between the club and Bode to have the surgery immediately (on Thursday) rather than delay it until the end of the season.

John Reid, Adelaide's general manager of football operations, said it was a tough decision for both parties.


"It is a major operation and may require six months of rehabilitation," Reid said. "If Matthew waited until the end of the season for surgery, he probably would have missed all of the pre-season period.

"He is very disappointed to miss the rest of the season and the chance to fight for a spot back in the Crows' side, but he needed the operation. The sooner he has it, the quicker he will be ready to play."

Bode, 26, has played 84 AFL matches - 29 with Port Adelaide from 1998-2000 and 55 with Adelaide since 2001.

 

[Mad Dog]

Thanks Lozz.......good luck to Matty with the re-coop.

 

[tribey]

Bode = Gone.

A perpetual disappointment.

 

[Crowked]

In a season where so many of our lesser lights have started to shine brightly, Bode has steadily faded away. I like the bloke and think when in form he has enough going for him to warrent holding on to him ahead of quite a few others on our list. However its been a while since we've seen Bodey's best and I cant see the club retaining him at seasons end. With many contracts expiring at seasons end IMO we are in for the biggest squad shake up we've had since Blighty's broom swept through at the end of 96. Unfortunately I cant see Bodey surviving the cull, he certainly wont be the Lone Ranger there though, there are half a dozen others who wont play AFL football again either.

 

[GoSarge]

Many people on here think Bode is gone, and that's without any season ending injury. But personally, I think there are too many players behind him on the list and he will stay. That's my opinion. I also think that the coaching staff rate him.

Some of the players to go before Bode: Ladhams, Smith, Stevens, Stevens, Begley, Massie, Schuback, Krueger. There are enough there for me to think Bode gets another chance. I mean guys like Begley and Massie have played less than Bode this year, but unlike Bode, haven't been injured.

Our midfield is still reasonably old. We thought it was old last year and not a lot has changed. We have a few youngsters knocking on the door like van Berlo and Knights, but they lack experience. Bode is the in between aged player that we have very few of. I think he has a part to play in our transition stage when Ricciuto, McLeod, Goodwin, Edwards are lost from the midfield.

I agree. Coupled with the fact that this years draft lacks depth (apparently), he will stay on the list.

 

[AdelaideFan]

So my question is.... Can we put him on the long term injury list and if so who will we upgrade from the rookie list??