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[Port01]

Why the hell was he playing CHF? Why drop Perrie without giving him a go at CHF?

Just last weekend I had jars458 telling me kenny would be AA CHB. While I scoffed as every Port supporter is allowed to do, surely the bloke isn't a better CHF option than Perrie right now. I am seriously bemused by your teams movements this week. All the talk was that it was only round 1 so a loss isnt such a big deal, and they react by switching all their KPP's around. Bemusing.

'Comment from the supercoach'

 

[tinman]

Originally posted by Port01
Why the hell was he playing CHF? Why drop Perrie without giving him a go at CHF?

Just last weekend I had jars458 telling me kenny would be AA CHB. While I scoffed as every Port supporter is allowed to do, surely the bloke isn't a better CHF option than Perrie right now. I am seriously bemused by your teams movements this week. All the talk was that it was only round 1 so a loss isnt such a big deal, and they react by switching all their KPP's around. Bemusing.

'Comment from the supercoach'

While I'm sure that anyone with the username "Port01" is keenly interested in how we can improve our performances I must agree.

Perrie dropped without a run at CHF, and McGregor is surely our best option at CHB? He had a pretty good season there last year didn't he?????

I know I'm thinking really radically here, but how about Perrie at CHF, McGregor at CHB and Carey closer to goal????

I actually think Carey in a pocket as Welsh leads straighter so would be better at FF with Carey dropping into the hole behind him for when the kick goes over the head so that we have a contest, which withhis strength he should be able to provide.

At CHF Carey has to lead wide as he can't take a contested mark above his head, which forces the whole team wide.

Still, I have no AFL coaching experience so probably shouldn't comment.

 

[macca23]

If Ayres has been reported correctly in the Sunday Mail today, then yesterday was not a one off and he is planning to play Kenny at CHF for the longer term.

I'm one of those who also think that Kenny is comfortably amongst the best CHB's in the comp, and would ultimately be an AA CHB - he would have been close to that last year.

Kenny gave an excellent contest at CHF yesterday and it did straighten us up a lot going forward. But IMO it's a case of robbing Peter to pay Paul, and ending up with f***-all

I'm with Tinman on this one. Perrie at CHF and Carey in the pocket, with Kenny in his rightful spot at CHB.

 

[Stiffy_18]

While Kenny did a reasonable job at CHF yesterday and got better as the game progressed, I think he is far better suited to CHB. He certainly did better at CHF than Carey because he can mark overhead.

The worrying thing about Ayres' comments of playing Kenny at CHF is that we are left with sweet f*** all at CHB. While Hentschel in time would make an excellent CHB he has only played 5 AFL games and still has a fair way to go. There are a couple of possible options I can see here. Play Biglands at CHB and Hudson as a back up ruckman. This is unlikely to happen as AFC are reluctant to play Huddo this early.

The only other possible solution makes me cringe. Perrie at CHB. I can see Ayres going down this path.

Perrie is far better CHF than McGregor and McGregor is far better CHB than Perrie.

Common snese says that Kenny is one of the best CHBs in the comp. Play him there he makes our defence stronger when he is holding down CHB. Carey plays better closer to goals and Perrie plays better when he is in front of Carey.

On paper we would have a reasonable spine with Carey at FF, Perrie at CHF and Kenny at CHB. Trust our coaching staff to come up with pearlers that screw up the structure.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Agree with the comments on this thread. Has me mystified as to why we drop Perrie without playing him in his best position (CHF), then finally decide to play Carey out of the goal-square & have to rob Kenny from CHB to play CHF. Probably not such asn issue against Brisbane without Lynch & Brown, but surely this only temporary.

I think just about everyone on this board agrees that Kenny is the rock to our defence at CHB. So with Carey better suited to across the FF line, Perrie is needed to play CHF (with Stevens on a flank).

We have OK KPP's to form a structure, but they need to be played in the right positions!

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
We have OK KPP's to form a structure, but they need to be played in the right positions!

Thats the key to it.

If you really have a look at it we have a reasonable spine but only if players are played in the right positions.

Our best player at CHF is Mark stevens but since he is unlikely to play again, Perrie is the second best option.

Carey is better suited closer to goal and Kenny is one of the best CHBs in the league. Why on earth would you play around with that structure.

Scott Stevens played well but now his biggest challenge is to play well consistently. Once he puts on more muscle he might play in KP but for now he is a tall mobile flanker.

If we persist with Kenny at CHF we are going to be in a lot more trouble than we are at the moment.

The most disappointing aspect of this poor start to the season is that our better players are letting us down. Youngsters are playing good footy and earning their spot but senior players are in the side only on their name.


Is anyone else concerned that we have lost 7 of our last 8 games and that we haven't kicked 100 or more points in a game for yonks?????? We are conceeding a hell of a lot of points and not putting up no where near good score ourselves.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
If we persist with Kenny at CHF we are going to be in a lot more trouble than we are at the moment.

Considering who the heck can then play CHB? Perrie?
Smart, Bassett, Hentschel??? All just crazy stuff, as Kenny is the 1st KPP who picks his own spot, so why shift him ?! Just creates more instability to our structure & bigger problems.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Considering who the heck can then play CHB? Perrie?
Smart, Bassett, Hentschel??? All just crazy stuff, as Kenny is the 1st KPP who picks his own spot, so why shift him ?! Just creates more instability to our structure & bigger problems.

Try telling that to the bloke in the coaches box.

 

[conVINCEd]

The crazy thing is that McGregor is our only big defender - and Garry thinks its a good idea to move him?!

Hopefully its just a once-off as Stiffy said.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by McLeod23
The crazy thing is that McGregor is our only big defender - and Garry thinks its a good idea to move him?!

Hopefully its just a once-off as Stiffy said.

Going by Ayres press conference he doesn't see it as a once-off!

 

[Jerome]

From various reports about the Roosters V Tigers game, it appears Hudson did alright today and Ian was solid up forward without doing anything great. (I'll wait till tomorrow to make a better judgement on it tho).

I agree Kenny should be down back and Ian up front and we need some crumbers to help us kick 15 - 20 goals a game.

As for Ian's form...it has been crap and he has been played out of position.

However, if we expect him to play CHF he sould be able to play anywhere up forward no worries IMO. The fact that he isnt up to standard makes me think he isnt mentally right to play.

I'm starting to think his form isnt just due to the fact he is played out of possie but he's not in the same frame of mind as last year.

Last year was his first full season of AFL footy. The first time he has played regularly in the side all year not just in bits and pieces. It was like he was a brand new recruit not the inconsistant fringe player he had been.

This may sound strange, but maybe has the second year blues.

Ok there are a few guys in the squad down on confidence and he is one of em...but maybe the pressure of being a regular part of the team - and a leading part of the team - has got to him? His responsibilities have increased and their are higher expectations of him now.

Or maybe he thinks since he had a good year last year, he'll be alright and pick up where he left off and he hasnt put in as much? now that's a dangerous frame of mind to be in, you'll get caught out with that attitude pretty quickly.

Either way, I dont just think its the directions he's been given that are the cause of his problems.

 

[Stiffy_18]

I don't think there are any easy answers as to why we are in this slump. Maybe as Jerome said Perrie is taking his spot for granted. We have players to play in key forward positions in the long term but not right this minute. Perrie is the best bet we have for CHF and we have to stick with him.

We as a team just have to continue to surge throught and power on and eventually we will get out at the other end. There is no easy answers. We are a bit lathargic and lack of competative drills in the pre-season is showing. Our ball handing and skills under pressure is worse I have seen in ages. We better turn it around real quick before the season is over before it starts.

I am quietly confident we will pinch the game at Subi.

PS. Easy posted on Regional Leages Board that he was impressed with Rowan Andrews in Glenelg Reserves today.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Originally posted by Stiffy_18
I don't think there are any easy answers as to why we are in this slump. Maybe as Jerome said Perrie is taking his spot for granted. We have players to play in key forward positions in the long term but not right this minute. Perrie is the best bet we have for CHF and we have to stick with him.

Why are you guys suggesting Sarge is taking his spot for granted? From Macca's reports he put in a big pre-season, so I can't see how his attitude is wrong. He was easily our best CHF last year, not just for a couple of games, but for most of the season. Gary, damn well put him back there & persist with him as he gives us a target through CHF! He was played out of position last week, then used as a scapegoat at the selection table. Not the best way to build confidence in young guys.

 

[Jerome]

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
Why are you guys suggesting Sarge is taking his spot for granted?

Its just speculation on my part, just thinking of things that could contribute to his current form. Sarge is known as someone that is not short on confidence ... so thats where I came to that conclusion. It could be that he is struggling with his new responsibilities.

I could be wrong, but for whatever reason he isnt too sharp at the minute and I dont think the coach is the only problem.

 

[macca23]

Originally posted by Kane McGoodwin
From Macca's reports he put in a big pre-season, so I can't see how his attitude is wrong.

His pre-season was excellent. He worked his butt off and he was freely being tipped as one of the big improvers for the year.

Perrie wouldn't be taking his position for granted, just the reverse. He experiences self doubts very easily, and at the moment the confidence he developed last year has just about all been erased.

He should just be planted at CHF by Ayres, and told that's your spot, I know you can do it, now go for it. He's more likely to respond to that rather than to being taken off after a quarter or so, and then dumped in defence, where only Gary appears to think he is suited.

 

[naughty monkey]

I listened to most of the Tigers Norf game on da wireless and Perrie was nothing more than serviceable. He played mostly forward, little bit back and started in the ruck in the last quarter and stayed there for most of it. Hudson was much better.

 

[Stiffy_18]

Originally posted by naughty monkey
I listened to most of the Tigers Norf game on da wireless and Perrie was nothing more than serviceable. He played mostly forward, little bit back and started in the ruck in the last quarter and stayed there for most of it. Hudson was much better.

So you didn't go to the game. I was going to pick your brains on how Crows listed players performed.

 

[ross gibbs]

perrie was loose and a bit disinterested imo.
bode thought he was a superstar. did some good things but was not accountable.
hudson was the best of the three by streets.

 

[Ozzie]

Back in the early years when Kenny and Perrie were drafted, Kenny played a number of games at CHF due to injuries as a raw kid in his rookie year. Perrie played FB for the WA under 18 State team. I can remember Sarge playing all his early games at CHB.

Maybe the coaching staff see that as their best options now. Personally I want to see Carey play in the FP Rutten at FF and Perrie at CHF. We need to try things. What we have is not working too well at the moment.

IMO the real trouble is in the midfield we are getting carved up by the opposition. Simple as that. Roo and Macca are NOT fit. Positives tho are that Schuey, Trent H and Reilly have shown that they will make it as AFL footballers.