Mclean

[carlton09]

Hey Guys,
Just thought I would ask the people who know him best as I don't know much about how Brock plays and his game style and so fourth..

1) What position suits him best?
2) Were would you rate him in Carlton's midfield?
3) Negatives
4) Positives

Cheers Guys!

 

[stabler]

Hey Guys,
Just thought I would ask the people who know him best as I don't know much about how Brock plays and his game style and so fourth..

1) What position suits him best?
2) Were would you rate him in Carlton's midfield?
3) Negatives
4) Positives

Cheers Guys!

1) Bash 'n crash ball extractor.
2) Behind Judd and Murphy and possibly Gibbs by the start of 2010
3) Slow, troublesome ankles, capable of some horrendous kicks, and has some 'issues' off field which shouldn't set him apart from the rest of your group
4) If he can regain his 2006 form you should have a capable mid which will shift some of the grunt work away from Judd. BIG 'if' though.

 

[Guy Rigoni]

spud, tool, flog, muppet of the highest order.

#43 > #5

 

[demonfan9]

1. He is purely an inside midfielder, cannot play any other roles effectively.
2. Not as good as Judd or Murphy. Different type of player to Gibbs and Simpson. Better than Carrazzo.
3. Very slow, restricted by injuries last few years, skills are average, not versatile.
4. Strong body, works hard, good on-field leader, clearance player, can be very good if fully fit.

 

[omit]

1 - Key position forward
2 - he's a forward, I don't know why you're asking this
3 - erratic in front of goals, too small to take on more than one defender at a time
4 - good leap and contested mark, good shot on the run, fast hands

 

[ExTasDeeMan]

You should see him eat a boiled egg, it will blow your mind.

 

[Demon Revival]

Favourite position: Behind the wheel (short trips only)

Midfield rating: honourable mention

Negatives: Yes

Positives: Splashes his cash around freely...

 

[Capt_Concussion]

I think emotions are getting in the way of some posters evaluation of McLean. If he gets over injuries and gets some of his speed back (yes, he wasn't always this slow) he'll be your second best extractor. Will be a very good workman like grunt player.

I heard he beat Judd in a time trial at the start of the preseason. Twigs must have given Judd a good ride the night before to tire him out.

 

[Dez!]

1. He is purely an inside midfielder, cannot play any other roles effectively.
2. Not as good as Judd or Murphy. Different type of player to Gibbs and Simpson. Better than Carrazzo.
3. Very slow, restricted by injuries last few years, skills are average, not versatile.
4. Strong body, works hard, good on-field leader, clearance player, can be very good if fully fit.

He's a better extractor of the football than Murphy which will be his primary role one would think.

Eases the pressure on Judd to play both inside and outside, gives the likes of Murphy, Gibbs and Judd another feeder to get the ball from the stoppage.

He wasn't able to have any sprint training last preseason due to the ankle injury which is why he was as slow as he was. I'm not saying he's Usain Bolt but people grossly overrate his "slowness", he has adequate pace but he isn't there to be a speedy midfielder he's there to get the hard ball and feed it out to Judd, Murphy, Gibbs and co which he can and will do very well.

 

[stickman11]

Hey Guys,
Just thought I would ask the people who know him best as I don't know much about how Brock plays and his game style and so fourth..

1) What position suits him best?
2) Were would you rate him in Carlton's midfield?
3) Negatives
4) Positives

Cheers Guys!

All I know about brock is:

He like burnouts
Likes to drink (should fit in nicely at carlton)
Proud of his gangster friends (Moran)
Used to wear number five
Lives in Moonie Ponds
Favourite position would be forward pocket

 

[stickman11]

He's a better extractor of the football than Murphy which will be his primary role one would think.

Eases the pressure on Judd to play both inside and outside, gives the likes of Murphy, Gibbs and Judd another feeder to get the ball from the stoppage.

He wasn't able to have any sprint training last preseason due to the ankle injury which is why he was as slow as he was. I'm not saying he's Usain Bolt but people grossly overrate his "slowness", he has adequate pace but he isn't there to be a speedy midfielder he's there to get the hard ball and feed it out to Judd, Murphy, Gibbs and co which he can and will do very well.

He beat Judd in a preseason race! I guess having a big head slows anyone down.

 

[Demon 16]

Hey Guys,
Just thought I would ask the people who know him best as I don't know much about how Brock plays and his game style and so fourth..

1) What position suits him best?
2) Were would you rate him in Carlton's midfield?
3) Negatives
4) Positives

Cheers Guys!

Hi mate.

Hes an onballer or centreman. Not blessed with pace but physical, can tackle and is strong over the ball.

At his best, I would say he is still behind your main 3 - but I rate your main 3 pretty high. At his best youve got an excellent player and probably provides pretty good balance to your current midfield actually.

Will get 25 touches per game and do alot of the un-noticed stuff.

Potential weaknesses could be injuries. If he getrs his body right I think you guys will have done very nicely getting him.

His lack of pace plus recent injurie concerns combined with his bash and crash type gamestyle mean there is a chance he might not last as long his talent would dictate on its own.

 

[Demonheart]

Hey Guys,
Just thought I would ask the people who know him best as I don't know much about how Brock plays and his game style and so fourth..

1) What position suits him best?
2) Were would you rate him in Carlton's midfield?
3) Negatives
4) Positives

Cheers Guys!

I'll try to do it honestly

1. Midfield, he can run all day although lack of pace hurts
2. 1st rotation
3. Lack of self discipline has resulted in several off field incidents which resulted in being dropped from the leadership group. Some of the reasons he stated for wanting to leave the MFC suggest he is mentally soft, ie not happy with the role he was asked to play. It appears that it just got too hard for him so he left.
Footy wise his disposal is poor.
4. He is very, very good in the wet. If it rains then he will be in your 'bests'

 

[pezz]

Hi mate.

Hes an onballer or centreman. Not blessed with pace but physical, can tackle and is strong over the ball.

At his best, I would say he is still behind your main 3 - but I rate your main 3 pretty high. At his best youve got an excellent player and probably provides pretty good balance to your current midfield actually.

Will get 25 touches per game and do alot of the un-noticed stuff.

Potential weaknesses could be injuries. If he getrs his body right I think you guys will have done very nicely getting him.

His lack of pace plus recent injurie concerns combined with his bash and crash type gamestyle mean there is a chance he might not last as long his talent would dictate on its own.

This, good post mate

 

[Demon 16]

This, good post mate

Thanks. Good call on his sure ball handling in the wet from Demonheart too actually. When its wet or cold it brings him futher into the game by virtue of others slowing down a little and he loves physical pressure inside packs.

Similar attributes to Jordan Gysberts up until now coincidentally..

 

[inyourcool]

I know BF isn't always the best place for honest footy talk but this thread seems to be going OK. I've been surprised how well Brock has gone in the time trials at Carlton. Twice beaten Judd now. Twice 2nd behind Walker.

Was he always this strong a performer at dees time trials in the past?

 

[Sculls]

I know BF isn't always the best place for honest footy talk but this thread seems to be going OK. I've been surprised how well Brock has gone in the time trials at Carlton. Twice beaten Judd now. Twice 2nd behind Walker.

Was he always this strong a performer at dees time trials in the past?

nope it's just the Carlton uniform that transformed him into a half decent player.

 

[inyourcool]

I wanted to ask whether he placed so highly in your time trials or whether there were stronger performers in this regard at your club? I was surprised that he was that accomplished a LD runner. Then again could simply be exhibiting how below par the rest of the pack at Carlton are in these park runs...

 

[Bartram_Class]

No, he was always up the front of ours.

From memory, he, Nathan Jones and John Meesen were the first three through last year. He's always had endurance, just struggled last year for any pace.

 

[Demonheart]

No, he was always up the front of ours.

From memory, he, Nathan Jones and John Meesen were the first three through last year. He's always had endurance, just struggled last year for any pace.

Spot on BC, he can run all day, but he is very one paced.

 

[cannons]

I wanted to ask whether he placed so highly in your time trials or whether there were stronger performers in this regard at your club? I was surprised that he was that accomplished a LD runner. Then again could simply be exhibiting how below par the rest of the pack at Carlton are in these park runs...

Yeah, he was always a good endurance runner, the problem is that he doesn't get much quicker than his jogging pace.

In saying that, he should be a pretty solid player for Carlton.

I can't see him being a failure, unless injuries get the better of him.

 

[inyourcool]

Cheers guys

Thats pretty solid from Jones. Having that type of tank is definitely required for his role going forward.

I think the future is quite exciting for your club and I will be taking particular interest. I think your recruiting efforts have been spot on and may reap Hawthorn like rewards if it can all gel.

 

[The Professor]

Interesting to see in the negatives we have pace and injuries for Mclean.

If you have a closer look, those two might be closely linked. Most of Mclean's serious injuries/ankle/leg are impact related. If he was a touch quicker, the Saints might've not clipped his leg while they were chasing him and Mclean might've not injured his leg in 07.

In 08, if he was a bit quicker, he might've not been caught and tackled awkwardly. Plenty of If's and maybes or it could be just plain unlucky but something to think about.

He'll be a good addition to Carlton blocking for the trio and getting first touch if not respected. Can't play anywhere else bar centre but other players are versatile. judd and murphy can go forward and gibbs back.

 

[Demon 16]

Pretty clever get from Carlton really. Hes very good at stoppages whether blocking, getting first posession or tackling. This should release Judd and Gibbs somewhat.

Carlton would be so furious with Fev - just leaves a huge hole where a strength was. Almost impossible for them to replace as they would have otherwised entered into a real press up the ladder.

 

[Sin City]

What's his disposal like?