Prediction Michael Barlow

[1970crow]

If we've decided we need that big mid type then clearly CEY is the option. Can both CEY and MB play? Doubtful.

Then the other option who is exciting but still to develop is Greenwood. Ideally CEY is playing the role and Greenwood gets a chance to be the main man for the 2's.

Problem with having MB is the knock on effect. If he plays then CEY is stuck in the 2's and Greenwood is stuck behind him. So 2 players are not moving on in their development.

This is where Thommo's extension, even in the SANFL, is a probem. He'll be the main nan under ROB's hand and playing his 85% TOG trying to earn himself a call up. I'd love him to take it easy and look on from a forward pocket and have small spurts in the midfield to undertake his in-game coaching duties. But it won't happen, if he's in the 2's, he'll be concentrating 100% on getting back into the 1's.

 

[whitey_1975]

CEY not playing was more about CEY than Campo, Yes its easy to blame Campo, but it would be wrong.
If you can attend some training sessions, All of the players always preform to the required plan, they all work hard.
You get some that are are happy to follow the leader, some who want to compete, some who want to fight to be that leader,
(This is midfield orientated), If you went this year you would see at time the Crouch brother go hard and do the extra, you even hear of them doing extra. Thommo the same, MacKay, Douglas, Lyons, CC. Of the players not in the team, the Hardest workers were (when Fit) , Wigg, Gore, Milera, Knights, Grigg even Menzel busted a nut and did extra, Brad Crouch when dropped went ballistic and work even harder, Some work hard but others did not, It the lack of 1% on the training track that slow some players down, put them behind at the start of the year.
I believe the penny dropped for a couple of them we will see in 2017.

What a load of shit,, so what you are saying is all the mids work tirelessly except CEY. The fact is Walsh picked him (showed faith in what his own eyes saw) and CEY proved he could play at the level with plenty of upside.
Along comes Campo - CEY disappears. FACT
PS We all wish we were in the inner sanctum like you and got to go to all the training sessions us poor average people can't.

 

[arrowman]

Correct. Unless we use all our picks before they nominate him and then we have no picks to use on him. We could be hoping he slides to the rookie draft. Or we could be just planning to take him with our lowest active pick regardless of whether he's nominated.

E.g. 107 is made redundant by picking up Barlow. 89 is set to upgrade O'Brien. We use 13, 43, 53 in the draft prior to Jarman being nominated. 67 will either be used on Jars or someone else if we think he could slip through to the rookie draft. If we don't get Barlow, I think it's a given we get Jars in the ND.

Isn't it the case that fs bids are made before the draft starts? No risk that someone else will bid after we have used the relevant pick?

 

[Bicks]

I'd be more interested in today's GWS delistee 20 year old prolific ball winner Jake Barrett rather than Barlow with an eye to future....

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-02/talented-giant-jake-barrett-on-the-table-as-a-free-agent

 

[dogs105]

Isn't it the case that fs bids are made before the draft starts? No risk that someone else will bid after we have used the relevant pick?

no and no

 

[Danger in Texas]

I'd be more interested in today's GWS delistee 20 year old prolific ball winner Jake Barrett rather than Barlow with an eye to future....

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-02/talented-giant-jake-barrett-on-the-table-as-a-free-agent

So you want someone who butchers the ball WAY more than Barlow?

 

[Jack is Back]

This is where Thommo's extension, even in the SANFL, is a probem. He'll be the main nan under ROB's hand and playing his 85% TOG trying to earn himself a call up. I'd love him to take it easy and look on from a forward pocket and have small spurts in the midfield to undertake his in-game coaching duties. But it won't happen, if he's in the 2's, he'll be concentrating 100% on getting back into the 1's.

Congratulations, you have just achieved your 15,000th anti-Thommo post .

To be fair, I do remember a post of yours a few weeks ago that didn't mention Thommo.

Maintain the Rage!!!!!

#thommocutmylunch

 

[Bicks]

So you want someone who butchers the ball WAY more than Barlow?

I watched a few live streams of the NEAFL GWS games this year, his kicking is no worse than Barlow, and better penetration IMO...... and he's 8 years younger and rarely misses with injury.....Know who I'd prefer.

Certain to offer more in 2016 than any late draft pick.
\
2016 NEAFL GRAND FINAL

Sydney Swans v WSU GIANTS at BISP, 1.30pm

WSU GIANTS 2.5 6.9 8.13 11.16 (82)
SYDNEY 5.4 6.9 8.10 11.12 (78)

GOALS - WSU GIANTS: J Barrett 2 M Flynn 2 J Stewart 2 S Reid T Downie R Palmer P McKenna C Byrne. Sydney: N Newman 2 J Rose 2 H Cunningham D Robinson N Reinhard J Hiscox B Jack S Murray T Leonardis.
BEST - WSU GIANTS: J Barrett S Reid A Kennedy R Palmer D Simpson P McKenna. Sydney: N Newman J Foote Z Jones J Rose L Melican B Jack.

2016 NAB Cup: Ball magnet at NEAFL level last year but faces a task to push way into senior midfield. Talented, so can’t be ruled out.

2016 Season
1 Played in NEAFL trial against Sydney.
2 NEAFL Had 21 touches and used most of them very well in midfield. -
3 NEAFL Good ball winner again in midfield with 31 touches and a goal. -
4 NEAFL Strong ball winner again in midfield with 27 touches and locked down Sam Martyn. -
5 NEAFL Strong worker in the midfield for all four quarters. 28 touches, 10 tackles. -
6 NEAFL Good ball winner again in midfield battle with 26 touches. -
7 NEAFL Bye. -
8 NEAFL Another Giants’ midfielder who starred with 34 touches and a goal. -
9 Hip.
10 Hip.
11 NEAFL Back after missing time with a hip issue and battled away in midfield. Fair. -
12 NEAFL Highest possession winner on the field. Laid seven tackles and had five clearances. -
13 NEAFL Very clean by foot and laid an equal team-high nine tackles. -
14 NEAFL Kicking needed to be better, but can’t fault his effort with a team-high 15 tackles. -
15 NEAFL Bye. -
16 NEAFL Good contributor in midfield with 23 touches ad nine tackles. -
17 NEAFL Among Giants’ best in close loss to Brisbane. Eight clearances, eight tackles. -
18 NEAFL Giants’ best. 24 contested possessions, 12 clearances and eight tackles. -
19 NEAFL Bye. -
20 NEAFL Superb in close – 19 of his 30 possessions were contested. Also had six clearances. -
21 NEAFL Prominent all afternoon in big win over Redland. Finished with 3.3. -
22 NEAFL OK without being great in massive win over Lions. Just four of his 15 disposals were kicks. -
23 NEAFL Bye. -
QF NEAFL Excellent in cut and thrust of midfield battle with 32 touches, eight tackles. -
PF -
2015 Season
1 -
2 NEAFL Good link player through midfield. -
3 NEAFL Booted a goal. Played his part. -
4 NEAFL Had ball on a string with 34 possessions. -
5 NEAFL Chipped in with a goal and had some good patches. -
6 NEAFL 24 possessions and a goal to play a strong role. -
7 NEAFL A tackling machine with 15 tackles and a goal. -
8 NEAFL Hard worker in Giants midfield. 28 possessions. -
9 NEAFL Bye. -
10 NEAFL Had ball on a string with 44 possessions and six inside 50s. -
11 NEAFL A bit quieter than last week. 20 possessions. -
12 Senior emergency.
13 NEAFL Bye. -
14 NEAFL 43 possessions, 10 tackles, seven inside 50s – a massive day out. -
15 NEAFL Hard worker again with 25 touches, 10 tackles. -
16 NEAFL One of a host of big ball-winners (33) for Giants. -
17 NEAFL Continued to rack up big numbers in Giants’ midfield. -
18 NEAFL Won plenty of ball in midfield to get Giants’ going forward. -
19 NEAFL Continued hot streak with 38 possessions, four inside 50s. -
20 NEAFL Bye. -
21 NEAFL Continued good form with 25 touches in UWS romp. -
22 NEAFL Continued good form despite team’s poor outing. 33 disp. -
23 Melb Sub. On in second half on debut and found a bit of the ball. 2

 

[plugger59]

I'd be more interested in today's GWS delistee 20 year old prolific ball winner Jake Barrett rather than Barlow with an eye to future....

http://www.afl.com.au/news/2016-11-02/talented-giant-jake-barrett-on-the-table-as-a-free-agent

Maybe wrong here but I'm absolutely certain that he is going to Pork? Wasn't there a statement from him saying that either just before or during Trade weeks? I remember about his so-called poor kicking and my son (Pork fan) saying, great - just what we need -not.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

I watched a few live streams of the NEAFL GWS games this year, his kicking is no worse than Barlow, and better penetration IMO...... and he's 8 years younger and rarely misses with injury.....Know who I'd prefer.

Certain to offer more in 2016 than any late draft pick.
\
2016 NEAFL GRAND FINAL

Sydney Swans v WSU GIANTS at BISP, 1.30pm

WSU GIANTS 2.5 6.9 8.13 11.16 (82)
SYDNEY 5.4 6.9 8.10 11.12 (78)

GOALS - WSU GIANTS: J Barrett 2 M Flynn 2 J Stewart 2 S Reid T Downie R Palmer P McKenna C Byrne. Sydney: N Newman 2 J Rose 2 H Cunningham D Robinson N Reinhard J Hiscox B Jack S Murray T Leonardis.
BEST - WSU GIANTS: J Barrett S Reid A Kennedy R Palmer D Simpson P McKenna. Sydney: N Newman J Foote Z Jones J Rose L Melican B Jack.

2016 NAB Cup: Ball magnet at NEAFL level last year but faces a task to push way into senior midfield. Talented, so can’t be ruled out.

2016 Season
1 Played in NEAFL trial against Sydney.
2 NEAFL Had 21 touches and used most of them very well in midfield. -
3 NEAFL Good ball winner again in midfield with 31 touches and a goal. -
4 NEAFL Strong ball winner again in midfield with 27 touches and locked down Sam Martyn. -
5 NEAFL Strong worker in the midfield for all four quarters. 28 touches, 10 tackles. -
6 NEAFL Good ball winner again in midfield battle with 26 touches. -
7 NEAFL Bye. -
8 NEAFL Another Giants’ midfielder who starred with 34 touches and a goal. -
9 Hip.
10 Hip.
11 NEAFL Back after missing time with a hip issue and battled away in midfield. Fair. -
12 NEAFL Highest possession winner on the field. Laid seven tackles and had five clearances. -
13 NEAFL Very clean by foot and laid an equal team-high nine tackles. -
14 NEAFL Kicking needed to be better, but can’t fault his effort with a team-high 15 tackles. -
15 NEAFL Bye. -
16 NEAFL Good contributor in midfield with 23 touches ad nine tackles. -
17 NEAFL Among Giants’ best in close loss to Brisbane. Eight clearances, eight tackles. -
18 NEAFL Giants’ best. 24 contested possessions, 12 clearances and eight tackles. -
19 NEAFL Bye. -
20 NEAFL Superb in close – 19 of his 30 possessions were contested. Also had six clearances. -
21 NEAFL Prominent all afternoon in big win over Redland. Finished with 3.3. -
22 NEAFL OK without being great in massive win over Lions. Just four of his 15 disposals were kicks. -
23 NEAFL Bye. -
QF NEAFL Excellent in cut and thrust of midfield battle with 32 touches, eight tackles. -
PF -
2015 Season
1 -
2 NEAFL Good link player through midfield. -
3 NEAFL Booted a goal. Played his part. -
4 NEAFL Had ball on a string with 34 possessions. -
5 NEAFL Chipped in with a goal and had some good patches. -
6 NEAFL 24 possessions and a goal to play a strong role. -
7 NEAFL A tackling machine with 15 tackles and a goal. -
8 NEAFL Hard worker in Giants midfield. 28 possessions. -
9 NEAFL Bye. -
10 NEAFL Had ball on a string with 44 possessions and six inside 50s. -
11 NEAFL A bit quieter than last week. 20 possessions. -
12 Senior emergency.
13 NEAFL Bye. -
14 NEAFL 43 possessions, 10 tackles, seven inside 50s – a massive day out. -
15 NEAFL Hard worker again with 25 touches, 10 tackles. -
16 NEAFL One of a host of big ball-winners (33) for Giants. -
17 NEAFL Continued to rack up big numbers in Giants’ midfield. -
18 NEAFL Won plenty of ball in midfield to get Giants’ going forward. -
19 NEAFL Continued hot streak with 38 possessions, four inside 50s. -
20 NEAFL Bye. -
21 NEAFL Continued good form with 25 touches in UWS romp. -
22 NEAFL Continued good form despite team’s poor outing. 33 disp. -
23 Melb Sub. On in second half on debut and found a bit of the ball. 2

You do understand when posting game results that the NEAFL is a god awful standard league ......what he or Steele does in the NEAFL is not worth discussing

 

[ad victoriam]

What a load of shit,, so what you are saying is all the mids work tirelessly except CEY. The fact is Walsh picked him (showed faith in what his own eyes saw) and CEY proved he could play at the level with plenty of upside.
Along comes Campo - CEY disappears. FACT
PS We all wish we were in the inner sanctum like you and got to go to all the training sessions us poor average people can't.

No I said some worked harder than other. Not in the inner sanctum, and I am only going by sight watching training sessions, not hard to see if you bother to look.
Always said CEY has lots of Talent but needs to put in.
Have you Bother to look who also came in to the side rather than looking to blame.
Good player announce themselves some need prodding.

 

[ad victoriam]

Was Phil Walsh not attending our training sessions?

No it was Pyke, But I guess Pyke just works for Campo like some seem to think.
Campo an assistant coach not the coach, he one Voice. Last I heard there was more than one Assistant coach.
Pyke a strong man and make his own decision on how the team is run,

 

[whitey_1975]

No I said some worked harder than other. Not in the inner sanctum, and I am only going by sight watching training sessions, not hard to see if you bother to look.
Always said CEY looks of Talent but needs to put in.
Have you Bother to look who also came in to the side rather than looking to blame.
Good player announce themselves some need prodding.

We are all different, some lack natural confidence, Walsh could see that, put faith in Cam and reaped the benefits. Oh and i bother watching btw

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

I guess the leadership, culture and elite standards from Thommo, VB and D-Mac hasn't rubbed off on all players

 

[marty36]

No I said some worked harder than other. Not in the inner sanctum, and I am only going by sight watching training sessions, not hard to see if you bother to look.
Always said CEY looks of Talent but needs to put in.
Have you Bother to look who also came in to the side rather than looking to blame.
Good player announce themselves some need prodding.

CEY had an oustanding year in the SANFL, he seriously couldnt have put his name any further forward than he did.

I have no doubt he will be played this year or the crows would have been incompetent not to trade him if they werent planning to play him. His value was probably a third, next year it will be straight delist if he doesnt get a crack

Funny thing is CEY 's form is the best it can be, I actually dont believe Bqrlow could play aswell in the SANFL as CEY did even at the slower pace. Seriously cant see Barlow getting a giog in front of CEY, Sloane, Crouch, Crouch, Douglass or Wigg and maybe Smith in the mid. Thommo simply shouldnt have been retained like VB was a waste of a spot last year. Maybe Ottens is a waste of a spot also, so if Im going to point the finger at these guys, you wouldnt take Barlow

 

[whitey_1975]

No it was Pyke, But I guess Pyke just works for Campo like some seem to think.
Campo an assistant coach not the coach, he one Voice. Last I heard there was more than one Assistant coach.
Pyke a strong man and make his own decision on how the team is run,

u missed fabs point me thinks

 

[whitey_1975]

I guess the leadership, culture and elite standards from Thommo, VB and D-Mac hasn't rubbed off on all players

Elite standards on game day not training track

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Elite standards on game day not training track

Yep, CEY has it backwards

 

[Bicks]

You do understand when posting game results that the NEAFL is a god awful standard league ......what he or Steele does in the NEAFL is not worth discussing

The Grand Final against a Swans team that had 14 AFL listed players and Barrett was best on, kicking looked reasonable to me in a pressure game...Jake Barrett No. 28.

 

[jackster83]

I guess the leadership, culture and elite standards from Thommo, VB and D-Mac hasn't rubbed off on all players

Coincidence that Jacobs and Douglas both dropped off this year after being reinstated into the leadership group?

 

[marty36]

The Grand Final against a Swans team that had 14 AFL listed players and Barrett was best on, kicking looked reasonable to me in a pressure game...Jake Barrett No. 28.

CEY was our best Magoo's player this year and cant get a gig in the A's, we have plenty of seconds players who perform quite well, remembering the teams they are playing are better than the AFL reserves teams considering they win the flag

 

[Bicks]

 

[Geoffa32]

So we won't be getting him?[emoji106] [emoji106]

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[Pugsley]

Look who said it [emoji5]

 

[Bicks]

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