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it's clear that MJ's a freak. it's proof enough that he said that his recent Greatest Hits album was #1 all over the world (yeah name one country), and that it was a conspiracy that it hadn't reached #1 in the USA.

keep children away from him. he can keep his own. they're doomed anyway.
 
Originally posted by BrisGirl
May we explore this statement a little further?

You were very open minded at the start of your post but finished with this one.........from this I gather you have formed the opinion that M Jackson is a 'bad apple' and may I ask why you think this?

PS I agree with you on the parents...there is a duty of care and they have not supplied it
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No probs. Michael Jackson has previous history in this area. Out of court settlement a while ago. Not quite sure when. As a parent the knowledge of this would be enough for me, not to let my children near this bloke. As for the freak, well that may be harsh, but to me what he has done to his face and the way he acts in front of the media, is quite freakish.

Cheers

SJW

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Originally posted by bunsen burner
This is all well and good, and I certainly agree, BUT I don't think kids will be rebelling too much if they aren't allowed to go to church or scouts. If my kids are anything like I was when I was that age, they would be rebelling even if I suggested they go to either of these.

As for getting involved with scouts myself? Sporting clubs and school excursions no problems, but the scouts? No way.


Are people aware that the guy who started the Scout movement, Sir Baden Powell was a nonce? The scouts has had a culture of pedophillia from day one. Although there are many innocent parents who are just doing the right thing for the kids, there is no shortage of nonces in the scout industry.
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BB
I know you understood what I was referring to. It is about joining in with your children, whatever activities they choose. And often rebellion comes after smothering children. But you know this. BTW. Im not in the scouts or the brownies, but know a lot more about netball than I ever hoped to.

Cheers

SJW



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What adult in their right mind gives a child $20 million if he is innocent of the crime he is accused of?!

I'm sorry, but those of you who think Michael Jackson is innocent of both sets of charges are living with blinders on.

You dont pay up that sort of money when you're innocent. Lets not argue that the court case would have done damage, because we all know the settlement did more damage to his persona than the case would have. Its an admission of guilt, and a bloody big one.

Michael Jackson may not come across as a predator, or a nasty ogre "child abuser". Like every one of his supporters say, he is a gentle and loving man who would never hurt a child. That may be so. In touching and having inappropriate contact with children, he is loving them and hurting them at the same time. He doesnt make the connection. He's mental. Just look at his skin, face, children to clarify that point. He needs help. I dont think he needs to be in jail. Maybe he thinks he is a child himself, who knows. At the end of the day, thats not the issue. The issue is that MJ's actions are not acceptable in todays society, and they are detrimental to the mental health and wellbeing of the children that are subjected to his oddities.
 
Originally posted by red+black
as an Essendon supporter, i would like to think you know how to quote someone. try harder.
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Could u pls provide the context where this remark comes from,i've checked what i said in this regard[i'm NOT denying i said "Whatever",i cant find it on this thread].
 
Originally posted by Frodo


He is clearly not attracted to females, the clear conclusion must be that he is more likeley to be attracted to males. I guess he has orgasms...what does he think about?
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As i said earlier he's been married to Females twice before.Pls note Females not males .So there must have been an attraction between him and his ex wives.Otherwise why would they have married him,1 certainly DIDNT need his money[Wealthy enough in her regard].
 
Originally posted by Bombers 2003
As i said earlier he's been married to Females twice before.Pls note Females not males .So there must have been an attraction between him and his ex wives.Otherwise why would they have married him,1 certainly DIDNT need his money[Wealthy enough in her regard].
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You seem to ignore the fact that he didn't get married until he was about 35. And before this he had reported sexual relationships with women. Doesn't this seem odd to you?

So he gets married to Elvis's daughter after a very quick alleged romance? Doesn't this seem odd to you? Haven't you heard about famous people who go into relationships to revive their career? Funnilly enough Lisa marie put out a successful album not long after.

Then he marries the girl who had his kids (I think). She's fat, common, and ugly. Doesn't that seem odd to you? He's never really had much interest in women and all of sudden out of the blue he has some woman concieves his babies. And when the job's done she disappears. No shortage of women who would be happy to have MJ's kids.


You seem to ignore the whole picture for argument's sake. Although no proof either way, the whole situation looks mighty sus.
 
Ever heard of a Hollywood marriage? Pure publicity stunt. IMO with Jackson, it was to make him look more normal.
 
Originally posted by Bombers 2003
Could u pls provide the context where this remark comes from,i've checked what i said in this regard[i'm NOT denying i said "Whatever",i cant find it on this thread].
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take the 11th post (yours) - you're quoting or copying and pasting, it's just hard to distinguish what you are quoting and what are your words.

re whatever, i just substituted 'whatever' for your dialogue. just being a smart ass.
 
Originally posted by bunsen burner
Then he marries the girl who had his kids (I think). She's fat, common, and ugly. Doesn't that seem odd to you? He's never really had much interest in women and all of sudden out of the blue he has some woman concieves his babies. And when the job's done she disappears. No shortage of women who would be happy to have MJ's kids.
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I thought the whole point of fame was to taste the money and sip the honey, and he's fallen way short on one of those counts. That alone makes him a freak.
 
It is absolutely impossible for anything to be proven from this whole scenario.

Its basically two sides telling their story andy ou gotta believe which one is most plausable.

But either way Jacko is quite stupid for saying some of the things he says - they don't paint a good picture for him at all, even if he didn't do anything to the kid/s.


For what its worth, I actually don't think Jacko did anything to the kids, but its still wrong, albeit legal, to be doing the things that he does.
 

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Originally posted by bunsen burner
You seem to ignore the fact that he didn't get married until he was about 35. And before this he had reported sexual relationships with women. Doesn't this seem odd to you?

So he gets married to Elvis's daughter after a very quick alleged romance? Doesn't this seem odd to you? Haven't you heard about famous people who go into relationships to revive their career? Funnilly enough Lisa marie put out a successful album not long after.

Then he marries the girl who had his kids (I think). She's fat, common, and ugly. Doesn't that seem odd to you? He's never really had much interest in women and all of sudden out of the blue he has some woman concieves his babies. And when the job's done she disappears. No shortage of women who would be happy to have MJ's kids.


You seem to ignore the whole picture for argument's sake. Although no proof either way, the whole situation looks mighty sus.
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1-No,i'm not aware of female companion to Jackson before he was 35.Except his Sisters,but they dont count.So perhaps that's odd.
2-Isnt she married again?,not sure u may know
3-But i believe she has said she'S prepared to have Kids by him.
 
The only reason MJ married Lisa Marie is because she was "The Kings" daughter, and he thinks of himself as a King, and now calls himself the King Of Pop, and has named his son/s (i think its two of them... Prince Michael Jr or something). It was a publicity stunt, for both of them really.

As for the mother of his other ones, come on, she has relinquished all parental rights to her children for gods sake - he basically bought a baby machine and probably turkey basted her up to have his offspring! No love, physical attraction there!
 
Originally posted by Bombers 2003
As i said earlier he's been married to Females twice before.Pls note Females not males .So there must have been an attraction between him and his ex wives.Otherwise why would they have married him,1 certainly DIDNT need his money[Wealthy enough in her regard].
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Marriage doesn't mean anything. Elton John got married, Rock Hudson was married and their sexuality has been well documented. The word 'sham' needs to go in before 'marriage'.
 
Originally posted by bunsen burner
Guy who owns the amusement park most likely does it for money. Jacko does it to attract kids.
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The counter-arguement is that it is basically a Make-A-Wish foundation with the majority of the kids being either ill or underprivlaged. Unlike your amusement park operator, spending a day with Jackson in a theme park might make some pretty miserable kids pretty happy.

Originally posted by bunsen burner
This is all well and good, but the point I am making is that if Jacko wasn't a nonce, then why is he sharing a bed with children?
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He insists he sleeps on the floor and the kids sleep in the bed.
 
Originally posted by Weaver
The counter-arguement is that it is basically a Make-A-Wish foundation with the majority of the kids being either ill or underprivlaged. Unlike your amusement park operator, spending a day with Jackson in a theme park might make some pretty miserable kids pretty happy.
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How could an underpriveleged child not have fun at MJ's wonderland? Until they get a little too close and personal! Pretty cunning honey trap if you ask me!

He insists he sleeps on the floor and the kids sleep in the bed.
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He has been quoted several times as saying he has slept in the same bed as children. Macauley Culkin admits he and his brother shared a bed with MJ. Regardless of whether something dodgy happened the point is that its innapropriate behaviour between adults and children and its up to the adult to know that and change that behaviour.
 
Originally posted by Weaver

He insists he sleeps on the floor and the kids sleep in the bed.
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You probably have all his albums and find it hard coming to terms with the truth. You should call a help line.
 

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Some people just have difficulty separating talent from goodness, and the artist from the person. I have a couple of his albums, but he is still a weirdo.
 
It will be very interesting to see what evidence is produced at the trial, by both sides. Personally I think the whole MJ thing is just creepy and weird. For what it is worth BMjnr would not have been allowed to stay overnight at the ranch.
 
Originally posted by bunsen burner
You probably have all his albums and find it hard coming to terms with the truth. You should call a help line.
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I own none of his albums, think him a bizzare tragedy and think that he is probably guilty of inappropriate behaviour, but something short of full-on pedophelia.

I simply like facts over sensationalism. It is just that I have a higher burden of proof than assuming any male who spends time alone with kids is probably a nonce.
 
Hmmm, funny you mention that! Saw the pics of the bruises this morning.... as much as i think American police have a bit of a bad name, especially when it comes to men that interfere with children, i dont think they would risk it with the publicity that would be involved with this case. Not to mention the money (with which comes power) that MJ has... i think he did it to himself in an effort to gain sympathy.

I think he often plays the sympathy card with the public, ie his claim that his father abused him as a child.

I dont mean to appear unsympathetic but its always excuses. I act the way i do because i was abused, blah blah blah. Enough is enough of people playing the victim and always blaming circumstances which were forced upon them. Life is often crap, big deal. In a way its what we make it, and things only affect us the way we let them. The circle has to stop somewhere.

It will be interesting to see how his children turn out, whether they will be freaks of nature like him, or whether they will rise above this rubbish.
 
Originally posted by otaku
and his allegations of police brutality??

what do you think about those?
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Very amusing.
Wacko claims the cops discolated his shoulder when they handcuffed him and now he can't raise his arms.

It probably wasn't a good idea for Wacko to wave both arms to the media when he left the police station.

Oops :o
 

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