Coach Michael Voss - Stats, history, articles, videos

[Accidental genius]

It’s funny how much time and effort has been put in by posters arguing over if our predicament is coaching, list management or player application now everyone seems to unanimously agree that we’re shit in all three departments

Was mostly the Voss apologist doing this.

Most others have pretty much said we need to fix multiple areas all along.

 

[bourbons]

What gives me hope is what is coming through. If we can hold most of our core together (still let TDK go and maybe another) we have some talent developing

Another pre season into Cowan Ollie Elijah HOK HOF Wilson Jagga Moir Flynn White Cincotta Lemmey Ben Campo Lucas Campo Carroll Lord and things can turn very very quickly. That is a talented young group added to Kemp & Newman coming back. That quickly changes the dynamic of our bottom 6-10 players

If we can add a couple of skilful runners as well our list can look pretty good.

Certainly more confident about that group than I am mate

The Hollands boys should be good (assuming Elijah ever sorts out his off field stuff), Lord has looked good at times this year, beyond that I'd suggest there's a fair bit of blue sky musing on the rest.

 

[Stamos]

From the article - "Something has to give before this group of players misses their premiership window."

This kind of thinking is delusional imo. Its been missed. She's over, finished, done. The sooner the club recognises this painful reality the better.

Looked like the Filth had missed their window at the end of 2021. And were 1 and done last year.
Things can turn around very quickly if you make the right decisions.

 

[GoBlues!]

Pretty much echoes

DISLIKES​

THE VOSS EQUATION​

Hun

https://archive.md/K1u3Q#selection-761.0-767.17

Worth a read.

Pretty much echoes most thoughts on this forum.

It’s a results focused caper and the last 12 months 8W - 15L record is unacceptable coming after 3/4 years under Voss.
With 9 games to go we’ll probably wait till the end of the year if we change coaches.

 

[Accidental genius]

Current HUN article. https://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/...e/news-story/7eb483d2cd4654f91953a44d8deed468



The media training is strong with this one.

Thanks JJ.

What a load of shit from Crippa - I guess he probably feels like he needs to say something given he’s the captain but it all seems too obvious what he is up to again

 

[blueblooded]

I don’t know if it’s just me or unless a player is a top 20 draft pick these days they’re very unlikely to make it. You might hit with one or two rookies here and there but it’s slim pickings.

None of Carrol, Lord, durdin, Motlop, campo boys, lemmey, Moir etc fill me with any confidence… they’re all picks 25 plus in their drafts and we’d be lucky for 1-2 of this bunch to really make it. Let’s be honest we’ve gone all in on 2015-18 crop with the saads, Williams, cerras and McGoverns added to it and it hasn’t worked.

Martin, Cunningham, Marchbank, SPS, Dow, obrien, setterrield, fisher needed to be the players in our bottom 6-8 in the team at this stage and they all busted. There’s your rebuild gone!

It’s not a coincidence that in 2023 that Cunningham Martin and Marchy got their bodies up for the back of the year and we made a prelim.

I don’t absolve Voss and I think he’s not the future for us … but this here is what cost us.

 

[BlueBlood15]

Thanks JJ.

What a load of shit from Crippa - I guess he probably feels like he needs to say something given he’s the captain but it all seems too obvious what he is up to again

Yep. He’s been seemingly asked a question and he effectively has to answer like that but if anyone at the club thinks the “stick with us” and “we love Vossy”messages are going to resonate with supporters, they are kidding themselves.

How many times have we heard words that are not supported by actions?

The players packed it in on Voss on Saturday. That’s the only message I’ve taken in from the club the past few days.

 

[Michael Jezz]

I don't think Wright will replace Voss unless he is confident in the replacement and he would consider if another year unveils a superior alternative. Bottom line is Voss may be a chair warmer in 2026

 

[Red Bull]

I don't think Wright will replace Voss unless he is confident in the replacement and he would consider if another year unveils a superior alternative. Bottom line is Voss may be a chair warmer in 2026

Like Hinkley this year ?
That’s going’s well and I’m sure the players would be super motivated by that scenario

 

[Michael Jezz]

Like Hinkley this year ?
That’s going’s well and I’m sure the players would be super motivated by that scenario

It is not about Voss, but who replaces him, otherwise where just repeating what we did in 2007, 2012, 2015, 2019 and 2021. How many F..N times can our supporters get sucked in? Are we the stupidest supporter base in the AFL that we can repeat the coach cull sugar hit for a 6th time? Yes, if the right candidate comes a year later, leave Vossy in the Chair...let him coach for his life but I suppose doing something different is a bit to challenging for some here

 

[BlueLocke]

Messages that Voss is safe for the moment and that there is no movement to replace him. Certainly won't happen whilst Cook is in charge

There is a lot of chatter that Wright is not a fan and will happily move him on. However, there is no indication that a decision has been made.

What will happen is the majority of Assists won't be at club in 2026. People are saying Lloyd won't be either. Won't be surprised if Wright acts as a Temporary Head of Football in interim before taking over from Cook.

There has been a big review of Recruitment, List Management and Development by Wright with changes in roles and structures and improved support coming. I'm not hearing anyone leaving or in gun

As I have stated previously Wright has met with many top people to see where they sit and would they be interested in a role at club. Have they been offered anything? I really don't know but no stone is being left unturned

My take from all this is there will be significant changes around the football department from July to October. It will be done methodically and properly. Board and Cook are across what is happening

Not today I guess.
*removes membership from microwave

 

[gbatman]

Voss was always going to be a disaster especially after failing at Brisbane as coach. Every press conference is him explaining why everyone else is to blame for losses. He is constantly trying to steer any negativity away from his coaching. He is out of his depth quite clearly. He will live and die by that game plan which is outdated.

Yep list overhaul is needed. Need athletic players. Atleast atheletic players give you the option to try and adjust to new game styles.

100%, been saying this since 2022. Nothing happened yet. Recruited accumulators, big bodied mids and endurance athletes. Ignored pace and foot skills and failed to identify natural forwards.

Collingwood on the other hand, when Buckley was coach began to reshape the list with pace and foot skills. Miles ahead of the rest of the competition in regards to the new rules and modern football.

Modern football is all about generating pressure by leg speed, getting to the loose ball quickly and running down the opposition players. The age of congestion and big bodies around the ball is gone. Run and carry is how you break down zones and score. Tempo footy is played at the half forward flank, you need to know when to chip it around when you get it forward, this is not a part of our game. We are cannon fodder for any team like Collingwood or Adelaide who have genuine pace, run around us like witches hats.

I'm keen to keep McKay, Curnow and Weitering together. They should be the reason for our next flag. All this blaming them is BS. If we could attract good mids I'd be trading from Cripps, Hewett and/or Walsh. Personally I would keep Walsh for a wing role. I think our midfield coaching is rubbish and Cripps is probably not doing that well because standing still and wresteling is our only midfield play.

There is so much wrong with our side. We don't ever play enough good running rebounding defenders. 3 is the number 4 is ideal. We have buggered Saad. Just let him get tagged every week because we don't have enough guys in capable of playing half back and don't rotate them enough.

The midfield needs to rotate through the bench more and forward pocket.

Our forward entries are far too much about defence. Getting it in deep, top of the square every time.

Our movement forward of the ball is all over the place.

I think the only good thing about us is our backline. It defends ok. It doesn't run well enough but it defends ok.


We just need to get people in who will want to play modern football. Even pre 2022 Voss' game style is crap.

 

[Red Bull]

It is not about Voss, but who replaces him, otherwise where just repeating what we did in 2007, 2012, 2015, 2019 and 2021. How many F..N times can our supporters get sucked in? Are we the stupidest supporter base in the AFL that we can repeat the coach cull sugar hit for a 6th time? Yes, if the right candidate comes a year later, leave Vossy in the Chair...let him coach for his life but I suppose doing something different is a bit to challenging for some here

You just cannot have a “seat warmer” as your senior coach.
Every one of those sacked coaches deserved the bullet … as does Voss.
Sacking them wasn’t the wrong call … appointing them was !!
Escorting the monkeys out of the boardroom is the starting point, then perhaps Wright might have a chance …

 

[gbatman]

You just cannot have a “seat warmer” as your senior coach.
Every one of those sacked coaches deserved the bullet … as does Voss.
Sacking them wasn’t the wrong call … appointing them was !!
Escorting the monkeys out of the boardroom is the starting point, then perhaps Wright might have a chance …

A lot of them could have worked with good assistants and recruiting.

Voss is probably one of the worst supported coaches in recent history. Ratten had better assistants. We got discards from poorly travelling clubs.

Voss is not a great coach but we set him up to fail. We made sure he achieved at the lowest of his abilities and not the highest.

 

[macky99]

I don't think Wright will replace Voss unless he is confident in the replacement and he would consider if another year unveils a superior alternative. Bottom line is Voss may be a chair warmer in 2026

l don't see that as a pathway forward, if we are making the decision to reset the list, the timing is right to let Voss go at the end of the year.

This year has been a major step backwards all our good players are under performing, time to make the call at year end, l don't see any change under Vossy coming.

 

[Lukeblueboy]

A lot of them could have worked with good assistants and recruiting.

Voss is probably one of the worst supported coaches in recent history. Ratten had better assistants. We got discards from poorly travelling clubs.

Voss is not a great coach but we set him up to fail. We made sure he achieved at the lowest of his abilities and not the highest.

Like we have with just about every coach in the last 15 years!
If we sack Voss, it has to be very different how we go about things this time imo

 

[Gavstar]

My 2 cents.

If we think there’s a chance of a top 4 finish in the next two years (26 & 27) with this group then we need to get rid of Voss now.

Or we can choose to waste the next however many weeks we have left before it’s not mathematically possible to qualify for finals and only then will we make the team selections to understand which players can play.

If we don’t think we have a chance at top 4 and 2023 was the peak performance of this aging group then we’ll need to do some serious trading out to gain sufficient improvement to challenge before Tasmania compromises the U17s & draft. The Voss move becomes less urgent but likely inevitable.

We know he either hasn’t got the winning game plan that works for the players or he has but can’t motivate/teach them to implement it.

If he’s not the right coach and we need to trade out players to gain currency…

Whoever we pick as coach will be very courageous to undertake that challenge.

 

[gbatman]

If we decide to stick with Voss, we need to do it under the same circumstances Melbourne did with Getting Chocco in to support Goodwin.

I think Voss has some really good senior coach qualities however his vision of what is a good team structure, game plan and modern football are off. Get someone in who can take over the management of these qualities. Voss can be the vessel, but someone else is driving.

For whoever is coaching us, we need a new direction tactically and recruitement wise.

There are avenues that will work for us but it needs to be us seeing the coaching group as a strong team. Not a senior coach with whoever around them.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Like Hinkley this year ?
That’s going’s well and I’m sure the players would be super motivated by that scenario

Well... it would work very well for my plan

 

[Blue_Fusion]

Re Voss getting sacked...

Think about this:

• Cook is still our CEO until October
• Cook has not got a history of sacking coaches
• It is therefore, extremely unlikely that Cook will resort to that on his way out
• Wright takes over in October
• That is VERY late to sack a coach

So, what are the chances that as soon as Graham Wright takes over, he will sack Voss immediately? I'd say next to zero unless we lose just about every game for the rest of the year...

 

[BlueBlood15]

A lot of them could have worked with good assistants and recruiting.

Voss is probably one of the worst supported coaches in recent history. Ratten had better assistants. We got discards from poorly travelling clubs.

Voss is not a great coach but we set him up to fail. We made sure he achieved at the lowest of his abilities and not the highest.

Agreed which is why Lloyd needs to be removed and before Voss. Voss might have stood a chance this year if we could have tweaked the assistants at the end of last year but Lloyd had already signed them all up for 2025.

 

[macky99]

Re Voss getting sacked...

Think about this:

• Cook is still our CEO until October
• Cook has not got a history of sacking coaches
• It is therefore, extremely unlikely that Cook will resort to that on his way out
• Wright takes over in October
• That is VERY late to sack a coach

So, what are the chances that as soon as Graham Wright takes over, he will sack Voss immediately? I'd say next to zero unless we lose just about every game for the rest of the year...

l would expect Wright to take over July/August as soon as we are mathematically no finals chance.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

l would expect Wright to take over July/August as soon as we are mathematically no finals chance.

Nope. Cook isn't our CEO on the basis that we are a mathematical chance to make finals...

He is CEO until October and Wright is not taking over before then.

 

[BlueBlood15]

l would expect Wright to take over July/August as soon as we are mathematically no finals chance.

Wright needs to be handed the keys ASAP and Cook needs to step aside. Wright is the one who will be there in 2026 and have to live with whatever calls are made this off season, Cook won’t. You can’t have a bloke calling the shots who doesn’t have to live with the consequences of his decisions.

 

[JustaBattler]

Re Voss getting sacked...

Think about this:

• Cook is still our CEO until October
• Cook has not got a history of sacking coaches
• It is therefore, extremely unlikely that Cook will resort to that on his way out
• Wright takes over in October
• That is VERY late to sack a coach

So, what are the chances that as soon as Graham Wright takes over, he will sack Voss immediately? I'd say next to zero unless we lose just about every game for the rest of the year...

If Wright wants Voss out- he would already be talking to alternatives - lining them up for the beauty parade chat to the Board- so procedure and proper stuff can be followed. So 2026 is Voss unless ther is a better alternative(s).