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[Stamos]

Re Voss getting sacked...

Think about this:

• Cook is still our CEO until October
• Cook has not got a history of sacking coaches
• It is therefore, extremely unlikely that Cook will resort to that on his way out
• Wright takes over in October
• That is VERY late to sack a coach

So, what are the chances that as soon as Graham Wright takes over, he will sack Voss immediately? I'd say next to zero unless we lose just about every game for the rest of the year...

If the decision needs to be made, Wright will get the keys earlier

 

[Blue_Fusion]

If Wright wants Voss out- he would already be talking to alternatives - lining them up for the beauty parade chat to the Board- so procedure and proper stuff can be followed. So 2026 is Voss unless ther is a better alternative(s).

This would imply that Cook would also have to already be aligned with him to sack Voss...

Highly unlikely imo.

Voss is on borrowed time regardless of being sacked or seeing out his contract... he will not be renewed.

 

[bradfisher14]

I thought it was widely reported that Wright will be taking over in July?

 

[Soapy V]

Nope. Cook isn't our CEO on the basis that we are a mathematical chance to make finals...

He is CEO until October and Wright is not taking over before then.

Nope

 

[Blue_Fusion]

If the decision needs to be made, Wright will get the keys earlier

Perhaps, if Cook doesn't want any part in sacking the coach and we pay him out...

Do you see the club doing that? He is contracted to be CEO until October, might as well keep him around for a few more months.

 

[Aphrodite]

I thought it was widely reported that Wright will be taking over in July?

Incoming Blues CEO to instil "sweeping changes" to coaching group

“Sweeping changes are coming at Carlton in the offseason.”

sen.com.au

The Blues are expected to commence Wright’s transition into the CEO role as early as July of this year, taking over from the departing Brian Cook months earlier than expected.

 

[Blue_Fusion]

I thought it was widely reported that Wright will be taking over in July?

Look, I really hope so tbh... the sooner the better.

 

[DirtyLeeds]

If we are issuing blame for this current situation, it's not Voss (as much as I believe his time is over) we're still suffering from the inept management of Silvani. He's all but torched us. An entire generation gone with only the 'big' ones to show for anything.
Yet he gets away with it because of his apparent royal status

 

[macky99]

Nope. Cook isn't our CEO on the basis that we are a mathematical chance to make finals...

He is CEO until October and Wright is not taking over before then.

That was the original plan on the basis we would be competing for finals & performing well.

Things have changed, Cook will step aside soon as Wright will need to step in probably July no later than August.

 

[marcmurphy3]

If Wright wants a different coach, Cook isn't going to say, "To bad. Im CEO till October and not sacking him. You're stuck with him for 2026".

Cook will either be part of the decision or step aside earlier. Whether Voss is coach next year will come down to what Wright wants.

 

[sosos]

The smart play is to not panic.

Let Voss coach out his contract.

Let the tdk stay or go saga play out.

Let any senior players who want to, move to greener pastures.

Do not tank.

Assess the list against their efforts for the rest of the year, then draft and trade accordingly.

Ensure the incoming footy boss has buy in with the coach on technical direction.

Assess the assistant coaches and tweak where required.

2026 may be a seat warming exercise for Voss, but that is an infinitely better long term strategy than another nightmarish coach sacking.

 

[swuzzlebubble]

Get someone in who can take over the management of these qualities. Voss can be the vessel, but someone else is driving

This is my preference but I'm struggling to see how it works in practice without Voss himself initiating or at least being totally on board with it. Not to mention the players buying in to whatever the change of direction would be.

 

[Accidental genius]

Was mostly the Voss apologist doing this.

Most others have pretty much said we need to fix multiple areas all along.

JustaBattler

 

[tarczonandjane]

What gives me hope is what is coming through. If we can hold most of our core together (still let TDK go and maybe another) we have some talent developing

Another pre season into Cowan Ollie Elijah HOK HOF Wilson Jagga Moir Flynn White Cincotta Lemmey Ben Campo Lucas Campo Carroll Lord and things can turn very very quickly. That is a talented young group added to Kemp & Newman coming back. That quickly changes the dynamic of our bottom 6-10 players

If we can add a couple of skilful runners as well our list can look pretty good.

I always love your optimism, Soapy. But one interesting thing in the TDK discussion has been that their big pitch to him (other than money) is that their under 22s are better than ours.

What I am trying to say is that there are very few runs on the board for the group you mention. It’s arguable that any of them have shown any significant influence on a single game. And the VFL is not going well enough to suggest these names are budding guns.

I certainly hope my assessment is an unnecessarily pessimistic one. But I am not quite seeing masses of blue sky there.

 

[JustaBattler]

JustaBattler

Ive got a sense of humour mate- which is why I love reading this forum

 

[JustaBattler]

This would imply that Cook would also have to already be aligned with him to sack Voss...

Highly unlikely imo.

Voss is on borrowed time regardless of being sacked or seeing out his contract... he will not be renewed.

Everybody is on borrowed time mate.

 

[Accidental genius]

Ive got a sense of humour mate- which is why I love reading this forum

Nothing wrong with lol emojis

 

[2blue4u]

The smart play is to not panic.

Let Voss coach out his contract.

Let the tdk stay or go saga play out.

Let any senior players who want to, move to greener pastures.

Do not tank.

Assess the list against their efforts for the rest of the year, then draft and trade accordingly.

Ensure the incoming footy boss has buy in with the coach on technical direction.

Assess the assistant coaches and tweak where required.

2026 may be a seat warming exercise for Voss, but that is an infinitely better long term strategy than another nightmarish coach sacking.

Tanking would only help the Hawks anyway. They have our first 2 picks.

 

[RAPPA]

there were gaps in the 2023 playing list but they got seduced by the brilliant run to the prelim, hoping the injury prone players had turned the corner and that fitness was the only barrier to glory.

Last year’s debacle finish to the season and horrendous EF effort should’ve been the impetus to put in more and better supports and make more playing list changes. We failed to fire a shot on all fronts.

Views on his coaching ability aside, I’m sure we are all in fierce agreement that a lot more could’ve been done to give Voss every chance to succeed

 

[bringdoullback]

Clearances down, but this key stat is driving Blues and Cats

Nathan Schmook looks at the overriding stat that has been crucial to teams' ultimate success over the past decade

www.afl.com.au

The stat that has produced 17 of the last 18 premiers and the three teams leading the way in 2024

It is based on the points differential from turnover.

www.sen.com.au

So the question for me, is what changed?

Personnel?
Teams worked us out and we have not evolved.
We have reverted back to contest game of 2023, but lost something along the way?

Also suggests Voss, can change the way we play. Maybe they got preseason wrong with over emphasis of short kicking game.

 

[gab213]

Everybody is on borrowed time mate.

You're right, I dont have another 30 years up my sleeve to wait on another premiership

 

[DirtyLeeds]

If we are issuing blame for this current situation, it's not Voss (as much as I believe his time is over) we're still suffering from the inept management of Silvani. He's all but torched us. An entire generation gone with only the 'big' ones to show for anything.
Yet he gets away with it because of his apparent royal status

Like fishing for flatheads in the Bay......

 

[Opium]

Thanks JJ.

What a load of shit from Crippa - I guess he probably feels like he needs to say something given he’s the captain but it all seems too obvious what he is up to again

All smoke and mirrors. The entire club is.

 

[Garters]

Thanks JJ.

What a load of shit from Crippa - I guess he probably feels like he needs to say something given he’s the captain but it all seems too obvious what he is up to again

Great player but has never ben a good captain. Obliged, compelled, coerced whatever the reason. Don't respond like that.

If that is how he genuinely feels then far greater issues on our hands. Yet clearly cannot be. The forking guy has bent over for this club and must be frustrated as anyone is allowed to be. He needs to be relieved of the captaincy.

Have Been calling it on here for years and this does not take away anything from him and the amazing servant he has been. But is not captain material and never has been. A captain can't just physically lead by footballing example and not be able to articulate beyond that.

He is not a natural captain. Was thrust into the role to sell blind hope to supporters at our lowest ebb and the club has never had enough strength of conviction to relieve him of it and let him do what he does best.

He is a simple footballer. When unshackled dominates. When feels he has the weight of the club on his shoulders capitulates and tries to be a superhero to the detriment of himself and the team.

Tom Harley for Eg was a limited player amongst that list but exceptional captain. Give it to JSOS, Hewitt, Newman? Dunno, going through that little off the cuff exercise, we are bereft of genuine leadership in terms of captain & leadership group to empower the rest on the list......
Hope Charlie rode his bike past Dymocks on the way to the ground and bought a copy of "The Australian Leadership Paradox"
Excuse facetious dig but FMD.

 

[BlueTongue]

If we are issuing blame for this current situation, it's not Voss (as much as I believe his time is over) we're still suffering from the inept management of Silvani. He's all but torched us. An entire generation gone with only the 'big' ones to show for anything.
Yet he gets away with it because of his apparent royal status

Don't agree. I really wanted Voss to work out, I do like him, but there are a few undeniables here;

• The entire team (no matter how much the leadership group tell us they love Vossy) are not on the same page, and way too often it's left to a few to try and win the game. They aren't playing for the coach atm.
• Too often we rush back underdone players at the expense of developing players who've done their job. There are also 'untouchables' who definitely don't deserve to hold their spot (and I am not talking leadership group).
• Silvagni drafted our spine, whom are currently our best players. Yes he had some misses but they have largely been moved on.
• The buck stops with the Coach no matter how much we may disagree. If a team is not performing, then either the players and list management is no good (true of us), the Game-plan doesn't work (ours doesn't stand up against the teams with good disposal), or the Coach doesn't have the players confidence (on they surface they seem to like him but our form this year would suggest otherwise).

We have shown on more than one occasion we can match and beat the best, but we have no consistency, and that hasn't changed in the years under Voss.