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How can we say that we do?

All I've said is this is so much more than the coach. The club and specifically the players have had a loser mindset for years.

IF Wright (who has had 12 months reviewing the club) sees Voss as the best head coach moving forward, I'm backing that 100%. Are you?
 

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IF Wright (who has had 12 months reviewing the club) sees Voss as the best head coach moving forward, I'm backing that 100%. Are you?

I’ll assess the whole situation and the details

I don’t “back” anyone. I’m a supporter. I just have an opinion hope for the best
 
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How can we say that we do?

All I've said is this is so much more than the coach. The club and specifically the players have had a loser mindset for years.

IF Wright (who has had 12 months reviewing the club) sees Voss as the best head coach moving forward, I'm backing that 100%. Are you?

I agree that the players and club have had a loser culture/mindset, although would hope that a coach would be shifting that in 3 and a half years.

If Wright backs Voss for another year, you can only support it. He has more information than any of us.

We would be hoping like hell it wouldn't be a repeat of Lloyd and the 21 Review though, when it was surprising at the time that he survived, but we had to take on face value that he wasn't a problem.
And then 4 years later it looks like a terrible mistake.
 
How can we say that we do?

All I've said is this is so much more than the coach. The club and specifically the players have had a loser mindset for years.

IF Wright (who has had 12 months reviewing the club) sees Voss as the best head coach moving forward, I'm backing that 100%. Are you?
Every supporter, whether they agree or not, will back the decision.

What I don’t agree with, is that Wright or whoever is the sole decision maker. A good organisation works through consultation, open minded discussions and inclusiveness on decision’s. Organisations that are led by a sole dictator, are the corporations that struggle, as the majority aren’t open to new ways of thinking or improving.

Let’s hope Wright is an inclusive, consulting, non-micro manager.
 
Every supporter, whether they agree or not, will back the decision.

What I don’t agree with, is that Wright or whoever is the sole decision maker. A good organisation works through consultation, open minded discussions and inclusiveness on decision’s. Organisations that are led by a sole dictator, are the corporations that struggle, as the majority aren’t open to new ways of thinking or improving.

Let’s hope Wright is an inclusive, consulting, non-micro manager.

I think there is (and should be) a big difference between Wright's short term job and his longer-term role as CEO.

If he's decided that we need new coach/es and/or HOF and/or List Management/Recruiting etc. etc., nobody should be standing in his way, given clearly whatever we've been doing has not worked.
We need change.

But that's not the way for a successful CEO to operate in the long term.
 
I’ll assess the whole situation and the details

I don’t “back” anyone. I’m a supporter. I just hope for the best
The majority of Carlton fans are happy to have Wright at the club, as am I. He has a great track record and unlike other big employment decisions of the past Graham is climbing the career chain with us by going into the CEO role, unlike others who have moved sideways as a superannuation boost at the end of their careers.

It would be quite contradictive to then not back in his recommendations and decisions.

If he backs Voss, I fear the supporter base is just going to bitch and moan rather than give it the support it requires.

The decision maker if we sack Voss is the same decision maker if we keep him. A lot of people here seem like they are going to be lauding Wright for one decision but haven't realised he may go the other way.
 
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I agree that the players and club have had a loser culture/mindset, although would hope that a coach would be shifting that in 3 and a half years.

If Wright backs Voss for another year, you can only support it. He has more information than any of us.

We would be hoping like hell it wouldn't be a repeat of Lloyd and the 21 Review though, when it was surprising at the time that he survived, but we had to take on face value that he wasn't a problem.
And then 4 years later it looks like a terrible mistake.
100%

But we can't have it both ways before he has made his moves.
 
The majority of Carlton fans are happy to have Wright at the club, as am I. He has a great track record and unlike other big employment decisions of the past Graham is climbing the career chain with us by going into the CEO role, unlike others who have moved sideways as a superannuation boost at the end of their careers.

It would be quite contradictive to then not back in his recommendations and decisions.

If he backs Voss, I fear the supporter base is just going to bitch and moan rather than give it the support it requires.

The decision maker if sack Voss is the same decision maker if we keep him. A lot of people here seem like they are going to be lauding Wright for one decision but haven't realised he may go the other way.

a lot of assumptions that aren't relevant
 

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Every supporter, whether they agree or not, will back the decision.

What I don’t agree with, is that Wright or whoever is the sole decision maker. A good organisation works through consultation, open minded discussions and inclusiveness on decision’s. Organisations that are led by a sole dictator, are the corporations that struggle, as the majority aren’t open to new ways of thinking or improving.

Let’s hope Wright is an inclusive, consulting, non-micro manager.
Who is that’s currently there that you could trust to make a good decision outside of Wright?
 
The only way I can see Voss staying on is if he agrees to assume a Team Manager type coaching style, replace the assistants with the best we can get (even consider breaking the soft cap) and leave game style and tactics to them.
 
The only way I can see Voss staying on is if he agrees to assume a Team Manager type coaching style, replace the assistants with the best we can get (even consider breaking the soft cap) and leave game style and tactics to them.
The only way I can see Voss staying is if a group of higher quality assistants can be persuaded to work beneath him.
Most supporters will accept Voss to be here next year providing Wright doesn't just sit on his hands, and instigates a major upheaval in the whole coaching group.
 
Dermie just before on SEN with Dwayne questioned and said something about Vossy’s coaching that I thought was quite interesting.

He said that he was speaking Alastair Lynch about the lions days and Leigh Matthews would tell Lynchy not to lead, to stay near the goal square, wrestle his opponent and bring the ball to ground where players like Aker, McRae and their smalls would crumb it and score.

He questioned whether Vossy (who’s a disciple of his old coach) if that has crept into his coaching and the way we setup our forward line.
 
The only way I can see Voss staying on is if he agrees to assume a Team Manager type coaching style, replace the assistants with the best we can get (even consider breaking the soft cap) and leave game style and tactics to them.
100% this. I actually like vossy and genuinely feel for him but the truth is he is out of his depth with the modern game tactically, game style plan
 
The only way I can see Voss staying on is if he agrees to assume a Team Manager type coaching style, replace the assistants with the best we can get (even consider breaking the soft cap) and leave game style and tactics to them.
I'd think this would involve bringing in a first timer "Matchday coach" like Hickmott who can focus on game plan without the full weight of being head coach.

Head coach - Voss
Matchday coach - Hickmott
Backline - New
Forwards - Hammill
Midfield - Power
VFL/development - Ebert
 

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I'd think this would involve bringing in a first timer "Matchday coach" like Hickmott who can focus on game plan without the full weight of being head coach.

Head coach - Voss
Matchday coach - Hickmott
Backline - New
Forwards - Hammill
Midfield - Power
VFL/development - Ebert
So what would Vossy role be on match day?
 
It’s been reported it was a Collingwood member that made the threat to Voss..
But I thought all their supporters were happy-go-lucky types like the culture their coach and players have fostered, and it’s only deranged Carlton fans that are toxic?
 

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