Analysis Midfield - 25 year draft recap

[kernelT]

After the 2001 super draft, who would be the top 10 midfielders we’ve taken in the national draft since?

Serious question.

 

[StCicatriz]

Jack Steven

9

Jack Steven

Age

36

Ht

180cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.7

5star

K

12.7

5star

HB

11.0

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.5

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.8

4star

CL

2.5

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

4.8

5star

CL

0.8

3star

would be our best drafted mid since 2009

Since 2001 BJ easily

They're probably 1 & 2... day light to Jones.... day light to anyone else. Probably armitage.

Rest is unproven.

Its so bad.

 

[mad-saint-guy]

Don't worry. Raph Clarke, Leigh Fisher

Leigh Fisher

Age

41

Ht

188cm

Wt

92kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

13.7

4star

K

7.5

3star

HB

6.2

4star

M

4.7

4star

T

1.7

4star

No current season stats available

D

13.4

4star

K

8.2

4star

HB

5.2

4star

M

5.4

5star

T

2.4

4star

, Gilbert, Brad Howard

Brad Howard

Age

38

Ht

180cm

Wt

71kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

3.0

1star

K

1.5

1star

HB

1.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

3star

No current season stats available

D

3.0

1star

K

1.5

1star

HB

1.5

2star

M

1.5

2star

T

1.0

3star

, Nicholas Winmar

Nicholas Winmar

Age

34

Ht

189cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

Def

Career

Season

Last 5

D

8.5

2star

K

5.5

2star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.0

2star

T

1.5

3star

No current season stats available

D

8.5

3star

K

5.5

3star

HB

3.0

3star

M

2.0

3star

T

1.5

4star

, Cripps, Newnes, Wright, Murdoch, Saunders, Billings, Acres, Templeton, McKenzie, Lonie, Gresham, Coffield, Byrnes, Nas, Owens, Wilson and Travaglia will all transition to inside mid soon enough.

 

[Sully111]

Mitch Owens would be up there

If we actually played him there

 

[kernelT]

Seb Ross played some excellent footy.

Finding 10 is bleak times.

 

[burntsnag]

Jack Steven

9

Jack Steven

Age

36

Ht

180cm

Wt

83kg

Pos.

M/F

Career

Season

Last 5

D

23.7

5star

K

12.7

5star

HB

11.0

5star

M

3.4

3star

T

4.5

5star

CL

4.4

5star

D

14.0

3star

K

8.0

3star

HB

6.0

3star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.8

4star

CL

2.5

4star

D

13.4

4star

K

7.6

3star

HB

5.8

4star

M

3.8

4star

T

4.8

5star

CL

0.8

3star

Armitage
Seb Ross
Dunstan

Quality!

 

[SaintsofSteel]

It doesnt make for a good reading, its almost like the club has never rated midfielders at the draft and always looked for the hybrid types. Its embarrassing really for some reason the club has always found a reason to draft anything but quality midfielders.

 

[mighty_sainters]

Fast forward a few years, could it be TDK, Pou, NWM and Trav/Windy/Wilson lining up at centre bounces?

 

[jumperfan]

Jack Steven
Armitage
Seb Ross
Dunstan

Quality!

I actually cannot think of anyone else. Who the **** were we playing there in the 2010s?

 

[MordySaint]

I think for a period of time we tried but we did it the wrong way. We would always look for discards from other clubs who we were interested in at draft time but didn't pick up.

Nathan Freeman

Nathan Freeman

Age

30

Ht

183cm

Wt

88kg

Pos.

Mid

Career

Season

Last 5

D

16.5

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.5

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.5

4star

CL

1.0

3star

No current season stats available

D

16.5

4star

K

8.0

3star

HB

8.5

5star

M

3.0

3star

T

2.5

4star

CL

1.0

3star

was a perfect example of this.

 

[goodie23]

1. Brendan Goddard - 205 games
2. Jack Steven - 183 games
3. Seb Ross - 211 games
4. David Armitage - 169 games
5. Blake Acres - 75 games
6. Jack Newnes - 155 games
7. Marcus Windhager - 54* games
8. Daniel McKenzie - 73 games
9. Darcy Wilson - 30* games
10. Ben Paton - 71 games
11. Hugo Garcia - 14* games
12. Luke Dunstan - 116 games
13. Hunter Clark - 98* games
14. Andrew McQualter - 89 games
15. Ryan Byrnes - 63* games
16. Leigh Fisher - 55 games
17. Mattaes Phillipou - 37* games
18. Angus Hastie - 5* games

 

[The Slug]

Tommy Curren been tearing it up at Sandy, expect to see him soon

 

[hayes]

I think we’ve done an exceptional job if you think about it. It’s not easy to have the worst midfield in the comp every year for over a decade, that takes extraordinary effort.

 

[burntsnag]

1. Brendan Goddard - 205 games
2. Jack Steven - 183 games
3. Seb Ross - 211 games
4. David Armitage - 169 games
5. Blake Acres - 75 games
6. Jack Newnes - 155 games
7. Marcus Windhager - 54* games
8. Daniel McKenzie - 73 games
9. Darcy Wilson - 30* games
10. Ben Paton - 71 games
11. Hugo Garcia - 14* games
12. Luke Dunstan - 116 games
13. Hunter Clark - 98* games
14. Andrew McQualter - 89 games
15. Ryan Byrnes - 63* games
16. Leigh Fisher - 55 games
17. Mattaes Phillipou - 37* games
18. Angus Hastie - 5* games

Do we count Geary? He has a failed mid turned defender.

 

[gringo2011]

I think we’ve done an exceptional job if you think about it. It’s not easy to have the worst midfield in the comp every year for over a decade, that takes extraordinary effort.

Not just mids. That period of drafting after 2012 until 2021 was the worst use of the national draft of any club ever. After about 2002 we started to lose momentum but had a few good ones amongst them. Post 2012 it was comically bad.

 

[MOLTEN GANGLANDS]

so incredibly grim, i feel like we've turned a corner but it's us so probs not

 

[jumperfan]

so incredibly grim, i feel like we've turned a corner but it's us so probs not

I think we have, but we're still paying for the horrific list management of the 2010s and will be for some time. That lack of players between 26-29 is going to come back to bite big time soon. Frustrating as the kids look good and Ross is the right coach in my opinion.

 

[bakes10]

 

[goodie23]

Do we count Geary? He has a failed mid turned defender.

Geary was rookie draft, same reason I didn't include the likes of Clinton Jones, Mav Weller or Jack Sinclair

 

[StCicatriz]

so incredibly grim, i feel like we've turned a corner but it's us so probs not

We are always turning the ****ing corner. Stuck in a round about.

 

[gringo2011]

We are always turning the ****ing corner. Stuck in a round about.

I think that Ross has created a pro footy department for the first time perhaps for ever. It doesn't guarantee anything but it lets you get a run in the race. We had no-one running the show and no staff to oversee all the development and planning.

 

[The Punter]

1. Brendan Goddard - 205 games
2. Jack Steven - 183 games
3. Seb Ross - 211 games
4. David Armitage - 169 games
5. Blake Acres - 75 games
6. Jack Newnes - 155 games
7. Marcus Windhager - 54* games
8. Daniel McKenzie - 73 games
9. Darcy Wilson - 30* games
10. Ben Paton - 71 games
11. Hugo Garcia - 14* games
12. Luke Dunstan - 116 games
13. Hunter Clark - 98* games
14. Andrew McQualter - 89 games
15. Ryan Byrnes - 63* games
16. Leigh Fisher - 55 games
17. Mattaes Phillipou - 37* games
18. Angus Hastie - 5* games

I like Garcia. Dunstan would have had 10 better games than Garcia's best game, and Pou's game against Sydney last year is better than every Garcia game.

Newnes 5, then probably Clark (seriously, look at who he is beating), then Acres, Dunstan and McKenzie. Windy/Pou 10.

 

[hayes]

We are always turning the ****ing corner. Stuck in a round about.

And it’s all because of the problems laid out in this thread.

 

[mad-saint-guy]

1. Brendan Goddard - 205 games
2. Jack Steven - 183 games
3. Seb Ross - 211 games
4. David Armitage - 169 games
5. Blake Acres - 75 games
6. Jack Newnes - 155 games
7. Marcus Windhager - 54* games
8. Daniel McKenzie - 73 games
9. Darcy Wilson - 30* games
10. Ben Paton - 71 games
11. Hugo Garcia - 14* games
12. Luke Dunstan - 116 games
13. Hunter Clark - 98* games
14. Andrew McQualter - 89 games
15. Ryan Byrnes - 63* games
16. Leigh Fisher - 55 games
17. Mattaes Phillipou - 37* games
18. Angus Hastie - 5* games

If we're only including players who have predominantly played as onballers, then you have this list:

1 Jack Steven
2 Seb Ross
3 David Armitage
4 Marcus Windhager*
5 Hugo Garcia
6 Luke Dunstan
7 Hunter Clark*

*Arguable whether they are more onballers vs half back/wing

Amazing haul from 25 years of recruiting mids

 

[The Punter]

Dunstan played 116 games for the club and averaged 20 disposals and 4 clearances per game over the entire time.

Garcia is averaging 16 and 3 this year.

I believe Garcia will end up better, but right now, it's Dunstan. Then Clark. Then Windy, THEN Garcia.