Midfield = Rubbish

[marcuz]

Every team bends us over in the middle, i'd hate to be playing in defence as every game they get swamped. This static kick orientated footy is boring as bat shit to watch and it does our forwards no favours.

Win the footy and run hard FFS!!!

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

Where's Houli or Lonergan.

Surely they should have got a game ahead of Bolton and Dyson.

We have finally become a bottom 4 side in all respects - coaching, tactics, preparation and players.

 

[Pantsless]

We got spanked since 1/2 way thru the first qtr.

Midfield terrible.

 

[monty1104]

We really missed Hille and Lloyd. They just give us so much more structure and help our delivery into the forward line.

 

[chooka_delic]

Our mids suck... our game plan sucks... Dyson and Bolton have to go NOW

 

[monty1104]

Dyson will not be dropped. He is playing good footy, he is just our new whipping boy. If you watch his game unbiasedly, you will see he is a good player, gets into plenty of space and generally uses the ball well. All he lacks is confidence, which he would gain if Sheeds actually plays him on the ground more and less on the bench.

 

[kelvin_sheedy]

We are something like 1-12 win loss at the MCG. It is a bigger ground than Telstra Dome and it exposes our plodding midfield.

As for Dyson... he made a number of mistakes today and just looks completely lost when he is out there. Does not do enough and never will. It's time we let go and give Houli, Lonergan, Hislop, Dempsey, Nash and others a chance.

 

[monty1104]

He also did a number of very good things today. I can only think of 2 mistakes he made off the top of my head, and one was when the game was already over. Just lacks the confidence that comes with playing a majority of the game on the ground.

 

[GmeUP]

I think the midfield are copping an unfair spray here, JJ and Hird were fantastic, Watson, Stanton, Peverill all had solid games. Did you stop to think the reason we were chip kicking sideways was because Hawthorn had 18 men defending 10? Hawthorn flooded and we werent smart enough to play our way out of it so they just kept at it. Lay off Bolton the guy played a handy role in ruck and defense. Dyson had moments of brilliance and moments of ******edness, im just trying to work out which he had more of.

 

[Strike Swiftly]

sheeds give the up the routine. start taking risks. your too predictable

 

[BurnleyBomber]

My sentintiments exactly. Bolton had a better game than Dyson in my opinion. I thought Laycock gave us SFA but still belive he has the ability to get better. His confidence is absolutely shot and is defintely needs time in the magoos once Hille is fit.

McPhee was the wrong match up right from the start for Franklin. I know hindsight is always 20/20, but it knocked out our rebound from defense and just exposed McPhee's lack of stopping ability. He is more like a taller Jason Gram, an attacking defender.

Mark Johnson's treading water at the moment. He needs a really good kick up the arse, he had no effect on the game whatsoever.

Kudos to Davey, another great game from who Brian Taylor calls 'Brrrrrrd'.

Hird, JJ, Lovett, Ryder, Pev and Stanton were good. Hird was tagged early but then went wherever he wanted after the 1st quarter.

Overall a bitterly disppointing game from the Bombers. We got way ahead of ourselves and they're proving their critics right. They are playing like a mediocre team.

 

[marcuz]

I think the midfield are copping an unfair spray here, JJ and Hird were fantastic, Watson, Stanton, Peverill all had solid games. Did you stop to think the reason we were chip kicking sideways was because Hawthorn had 18 men defending 10? Hawthorn flooded and we werent smart enough to play our way out of it so they just kept at it. Lay off Bolton the guy played a handy role in ruck and defense. Dyson had moments of brilliance and moments of ******edness, im just trying to work out which he had more of.

Don't blame hawthorn we've been chipping it around all year. we lead the league in short kicks yet we are last in inside 50's which means we do **** all with the footy. It also inflates the stats of several of our midfielders, we are too static in our play and we do not win enough of our own ball and teams are killing us.

 

[dave_27]

Hird wasted half of his disposals, he wasnt good today.

 

[dave_27]

And for those bagging Dyson, they're out of line.

Yeah he did a couple of mistakes but he did some very nice things aswell that resulted in scoring shots to Johns.

 

[SydneyBomber]

And for those bagging Dyson, they're out of line.

Yeah he did a couple of mistakes but he did some very nice things aswell that resulted in scoring shots to Johns.

consider me out of line then.

he never should have played today after his past 3 matches, and his efforts today should consign him to bendigo for the forseeable future.
'poor decisions', 'scared', 'timid', 'turnover' are (unfortunately) words that come to mind when I think of dyson.

all players can have a week or two down on form no doubt, but he's shown nothing at all this year (or 2006?).

we have other blokes of this type itching for a go in the 2nds, can't hurt to bring them in and give them a go surely?

sorry marcuz, but your boy just isn't up to it at the moment.

 

[marcuz]

sorry marcuz, but your boy just isn't up to it at the moment.

no need to apologise mate i agree, if he can go back to th vfl and start dominating games for a month or so then he can come back. He needs to start imposing himself on games through the midfield. until he can do that then he is VFL bound.

 

[Crave]

The only reason we havent continued with putting younger players in that I can think of is we're still in a position that constitutes a decent start to the season. If we were 1-4 or 0-5, then it would allow us to play the young kids ahead of their more experienced counterparts.

 

[Osmodiar]

we suck against a flood.

 

[Crave]

And for those bagging Dyson, they're out of line.

Yeah he did a couple of mistakes but he did some very nice things aswell that resulted in scoring shots to Johns.

He's not up to it...he can run with it, then he begins to try too hard instead of relying on his natural ability.

 

[monty1104]

IMO, Dyson wont be dropped due tto our lack of pace. With JJ back and in form, Heff should get dropped before Dyson. If Hille comes back then a tall should be dropped. I agree Houli and Lonergan deserve a game, but not at the expense of Dyson.

 

[djharps]

everyone lay off dyson.. he was not in the bottom 4 today

lovett heard develop a defensive game bud

watson oh words could not describe how much i loathe that you get a game.. you are not up to afl standard and just because timmy gives sheeds a great blow job at training does not give your son a right to start in our 22

davey was brilliant in bursts but really needs to have more of an impact for longer parts of the game... fantastic to watch though

laycock you are rubbish i would prefer bradley in the ruck.. yes i said it

MJ step up my friend

hird not as influential as he once was

monfries very very quite

 

[Strike Swiftly]

dyson isnt that quick. not much quicker than heff i reckon. he looks like he is running fast, but actually isnt. just his awkward running style i reckon

 

[SydneyBomber]

everyone lay off dyson.. he was not in the bottom 4 today

lovett heard develop a defensive game bud

watson oh words could not describe how much i loathe that you get a game.. you are not up to afl standard and just because timmy gives sheeds a great blow job at training does not give your son a right to start in our 22

davey was brilliant in bursts but really needs to have more of an impact for longer parts of the game... fantastic to watch though

laycock you are rubbish i would prefer bradley in the ruck.. yes i said it

MJ step up my friend

hird not as influential as he once was

monfries very very quite

I'm assuming that you're currently pissed.

two things I'd like to disagree with in your post:

1. watson needs a spell in the vfl yes, but he can actually get the ball unlike some of the other spuds around him - it's his disposal by foot that lets him down.
your bullshit about tim watson is out of line.

2. laycock needs work I agree (specifically on his fitness), but in the ruck he has a far bigger upside the kepler

 

[Jono B]

everyone lay off dyson.. he was not in the bottom 4 today

lovett heard develop a defensive game bud

watson oh words could not describe how much i loathe that you get a game.. you are not up to afl standard and just because timmy gives sheeds a great blow job at training does not give your son a right to start in our 22

davey was brilliant in bursts but really needs to have more of an impact for longer parts of the game... fantastic to watch though

laycock you are rubbish i would prefer bradley in the ruck.. yes i said it

MJ step up my friend

hird not as influential as he once was

monfries very very quite

Rubbish, Davey and Watson were far better than Dyson. Both of them did thier jobs today, while Dysons job is to hit targets and provide tackling pressure he did neither

 

[djharps]

^^^ your wrong i think i saw laycock get his mits on the ball about 3 or 4 times today, now replace that with bradley and you would have basically the same affect on the game. BUT bradley has far better fitness i seriously did not see one clean tap out of the ruck by laycock he was beyond shit today

and yes im frustrated with watson because he handballs **** make kick it front and proper to the boys infront on the big sticks... beacuse once it hits the deck its any ones ball