mongrelpunt's Fantasy Footy - Final Round - Lightning Premiership

[mongrelpunt]

Its that time - Season is over .

A couple of things I've decided (hell its my game )

1) People have until the end of September (Monday 30th) to nominate that they will take part in the competiton next year. Anyone who fails to nominate then will lose control of their team.

2) Because the official AFL trade period begins on the 24th of October, the official M.P.F.L trade period begins on the following Monday 28th October to give everyone a reasonable look to where their players will end up. On this Monday, I'll start a thread on the Games board to continue for at least a month for people to trade players from their sides. Draft picks may also be traded. More information will be given before hand.

3) The M.P.F.L National Draft will occur around January, given the fact the National and Pre-Season Drafts are on 24 November and 17 December repectively. Mid January seems the likely time, with everyone back from Christmas Holidays, and this also gives us a chance to do the draft through BigFooty, rather than submitting lists like last year.

I'm still a bit undecided on the trade period particulars, so if anyone has any ideas, let us know.

Anyway, here's the final round of scores.

GROUP 1:

Melbourne 1065 defeated West Coast 950
Kangaroos 994 defeated Geelong 907

1 W L F A % PTS
Melbourne 3 0 3072 2625 117.0% 12
West Coast 2 1 2806 2759 101.7% 8
Kangaroos 1 2 2803 2986 93.9% 4
Geelong 0 3 2642 2866 92.2% 0

GROUP 2:

Richmond 1039 defeated Hawthorn 1011
The Chuck Mullholland Swans 1099 defeated Collingwood 803

2 W L F A % PTS
Richmond 3 0 3063 2497 122.7% 12
The Chuck Mullholland Swans 2 1 2829 2831 99.9% 8
Hawthorn 1 2 2764 2845 97.2% 4
Collingwood 0 3 1442 3264 44.2% 0

GROUP 3:

Essendon 1146 defeated Brisbane 639
Team Red & Blue 1269 defeated Glebe Power 1007

3 W L F A % PTS
Team Red & Blue 3 0 3582 2761 129.7% 12
Glebe Power 2 1 3222 3117 103.4% 8
Essendon 1 2 3291 3038 108.3% 4
Brisbane 0 3 2096 3275 64.0% 0

GROUP 4:

St. Kilda 1082 defeated Fremantle 1035
West. Bulldogs 1164 defeated Port Adelaide Magpies 972

4 W L F A % PTS
West. Bulldogs 3 0 3224 2956 109.1% 12
St. Kilda 2 1 3206 3075 104.3% 8
Port Adelaide Magpies 1 2 2956 3253 90.9% 4
Fremantle 0 3 2984 3086 96.7% 0

TOP 20 PLAYERS
Barry Hall - St. Kilda 120
Nick Riewoldt - West. Bulldogs 120
Shane Crawford - Team Red & Blue 113
Troy Cook - Richmond 112
Andrew McLeod - Kangaroos 109
Michael Gardiner - Glebe Power 107
Michael Voss - St. Kilda 103
David King - Melbourne 102
Justin Murphy - Melbourne 101
Matthew Pavlich - Essendon 101
Simon Black - Hawthorn 98
Roger James - Port Magpies 98
Daryn Cresswell - Melbourne 96
Des Headland - Team Red & Blue 96
Simon Beaumont - Fremantle 95
Nathan G. Brown - Team Red & Blue 95
Scott Lucas - Collingwood 94
Jeff White - St. Kilda 94
Ben Cousins - West Coast 93
Matthew Lloyd - Richmond 93

TOP PLAYER NOT DRAFTED:
Campbell Brown 76

TOP 20 PLAYERS SEASON
Jeff White - St. Kilda 294
Matthew Lloyd - Richmond 288
Luke Darcy - Glebe Power 285
Troy Cook - Richmond 277
Michael Gardiner - Glebe Power 270
Matthew Pavlich - Essendon 266
Nick Riewoldt - West. Bulldogs 265
Daryn Cresswell - Melbourne 263
Justin Murphy - Melbourne 262
Jess Sinclair - Brisbane 262
Michael Voss - St. Kilda 254
Roger James - Port Magpies 253
Jason Akermanis - West Coast 252
Chad Cornes - Fremantle 248
Shane Crawford - Team Red & Blue 247
Troy Simmonds - Richmond 241
Joe Misiti - Melbourne 237
Barry Hall - St. Kilda 235
Matthew Richardson - Essendon 235
Adam Simpson - Port Magpies 235

TOP PLAYER NOT DRAFTED:
Mark Coughlan 210

Top 20's to follow.

 

[mongrelpunt]

Brisbane:
Andrew Kellaway - 90
Jess Sinclair - 82
Luke Power - 73
Sam Power - 54
James Rahilly - 51
Jonathan Brown - 49
Mal Michael - 45
Beau McDonald - 42
Mark McVeigh - 38
Ryan Lonie - 31
Tadhg Kennelly - 29
Sam Cranage - 25
Jamie Charman - 15
Aaron Shattock - 15
Craig Bolton - 0
Darren Bradshaw - 0
Nathan Clarke - 0
Robert Copeland - 0
Ben Dixon - 0
Jason Gram - 0
TOTAL 639

The Chuck Mullholland Swans:
Brad Green - 87
Matthew Primus - 81
Chris Grant - 80
Heath Black - 70
Corey Jones - 67
Stephen Milne - 64
Jordan McMahon - 62
Chris Tarrant - 59
Mark Alvey - 56
Jonathan Hay - 56
David Rodan - 55
Luke Livingston - 53
Leigh Colbert - 50
Peter Vardy - 49
Nathan Eagleton - 43
Tom Harley - 38
Ryan Houlihan - 38
Luke McPharlin - 36
Rupert Betheras - 33
Patrick Bowden - 32
Minus 1 Susp. (Byron Pickett) -10
TOTAL 1099

Collingwood:
Scott Lucas - 94
Phillip Matera - 88
Peter Burgoyne - 86
Matthew Rogers - 81
Ray Hall - 79
Michael O'Loughlin - 63
Paul Barnard - 56
Nick Davis - 53
Leon Davis - 52
David Hille - 44
Glen Jakovich - 32
Stuart Dew - 22
Brady Rawlings - 19
Shane Wakelin - 19
Aaron Henneman - 11
Aaron Lord - 10
Kris Massie - 4
Steven Alessio - 0
Glenn Archer - 0
Mark Bickley - 0
Minus 1 Susp. (Mark Bickley) -10
TOTAL 803

Essendon:
Matthew Pavlich - 101
David Clarke - 87
Trent Hotton - 84
Daniel Bandy - 82
Paul Licuria - 79
Matthew Richardson - 77
Greg Stafford - 67
Adem Yze - 66
Scott Burns - 58
Steven Koops - 58
Chris Judd - 57
Blake Caracella - 56
Joel Bowden - 55
Ben Graham - 42
Adam McPhee - 40
Steven Greene - 38
Aaron Hamill - 38
Shaun Rehn - 35
Stuart Cochrane - 26
Jordan Bannister - 0
TOTAL 1146

Fremantle:
Simon Beaumont - 95
Chad Cornes - 86
Corey Enright - 82
Ken McGregor - 81
Ben Mathews - 63
Brett Kirk - 62
Shaun McManus - 61
Brent Harvey - 57
Tyson Stenglein - 51
Ben Cunningham - 49
James Clement - 48
Jared Crouch - 46
Chris Scott - 40
Nigel Smart - 37
Mitchell Hahn - 36
James Hird - 32
Jude Bolton - 31
Jeff Farmer - 28
Brodie Holland - 25
Andrew Siegert - 25
TOTAL 1035

Geelong:
James Kelly - 87
Mark Bolton - 86
Adam Goodes - 83
Steven King - 80
Heath Scotland - 78
Ronnie Burns - 61
Mark Johnson - 59
Jason Cloke - 57
Brad Seymour - 56
Matthew Scarlett - 53
Paul Chapman - 51
Ben Fixter - 47
Danny Jacobs - 45
Brenton Sanderson - 35
Darren Mead - 19
Mick Martyn - 10
Gary Ablett Jnr - 0
Damien Adkins - 0
James Bartel - 0
Adrian Cox - 0
TOTAL 907

Glebe Power:
Michael Gardiner - 107
Luke Darcy - 82
Josh Carr - 72
Mark Stevens - 63
Brett Moyle - 62
Luke McCabe - 61
Tarkyn Lockyer - 58
James Begley - 55
Steven Lawrence - 53
Andrew Eccles - 50
Paul Kelly - 49
Brett Montgomery - 47
Darren Gaspar - 42
James Walker - 38
Jarrad Schofield - 34
Steven Sziller - 34
Aaron Fiora - 32
Matthew Burton - 27
Scott Camporeale - 25
Daniel Wulf - 16
TOTAL 1007

Hawthorn
Simon Black - 98
Brad Ottens - 87
Rohan Smith - 79
Mark Graham - 74
Sam Mitchell - 72
Simon Cox - 71
Nathan Lonie - 67
Sean Wellman - 64
Jade Rawlings - 51
Dustin Fletcher - 48
Rhett Biglands - 45
Jarrod Molloy - 45
Gary Moorcroft - 44
David Neitz - 35
Nathan Thompson - 29
Chance Bateman - 27
Nick Dal Santo - 26
Shaun Burgoyne - 24
Max Hudghton - 15
Xavier Clarke - 10
TOTAL 1011

Kangaroos
Andrew McLeod - 109
Josh Fraser - 82
Damien Peverill - 81
Luke Hodge - 67
John Blakey - 64
Drew Banfield - 57
Damien Hardwick - 57
Paul Salmon - 55
Mark Richardson - 54
Kane Cornes - 53
Mitchell White - 52
Shane Harvey - 46
Stephen Paxman - 39
Shannon Motlop - 36
Shannon Grant - 35
Andrew Dunkley - 32
Ryan O'Keefe - 24
Fraser Gehrig - 18
Ashley McIntosh - 17
Trent Croad - 16
TOTAL 994

Melbourne
David King - 102
Justin Murphy - 101
Daryn Cresswell - 96
Joe Misiti - 89
Nic Fosdike - 77
Matthew Bode - 69
Austin Jones - 61
Matthew Clarke - 58
Russell Robertson - 57
Andrew Thompson - 53
Warren Tredrea - 48
Nick Holland - 44
Nathan Bassett - 43
Nick Stevens - 40
Daniel Chick - 34
Matthew Nicks - 33
Leo Barry - 30
Matthew Bishop - 15
Clinton King - 15
Bryan Beinke - 0
TOTAL 1065

Port Adelaide Magpies:
Roger James - 98
Adam Simpson - 80
Adrian Hickmott - 79
Tyson Edwards - 78
Steven McKee - 68
Wayne Campbell - 65
Justin Peckett - 64
Paul Williams - 59
Matthew Lappin - 57
Daniel McPherson - 55
Steven Baker - 50
Glenn Freeborn - 43
Mark Chaffey - 41
Richard Taylor - 36
Matthew Croft - 35
Angelo Lekkas - 30
Tim Notting - 25
Ben Harrison - 9
Jason Ball - 0
Craig Callaghan - 0
TOTAL 972

Richmond
Troy Cook - 112
Matthew Lloyd - 93
Peter Riccardi - 86
Daniel Kerr - 81
Troy Wilson - 73
Robert Murphy - 69
Peter Everitt - 67
Troy Simmonds - 67
Lenny Hayes - 60
Cameron Mooney - 58
Jason Cripps - 53
Cameron Ling - 51
James McDonald - 40
Mark Porter - 35
Marcus Ashcroft - 28
Kent Kingsley - 28
Shane O'Bree - 26
Shane Parker - 12
Josh Hunt - 0
Troy Longmuir - 0
TOTAL 1039

St. Kilda
Barry Hall - 120
Michael Voss - 103
Jeff White - 94
Steven Armstrong - 91
Cameron Bruce - 79
Clint Bizzell - 59
Michael Doughty - 55
Leigh Harding - 43
Chris Johnson - 42
Peter Walsh - 42
Luke Williams - 42
Corey McKernan - 41
James Gallagher - 40
Justin Leppitsch - 38
Antoni Grover - 35
Paul Medhurst - 35
Evan Hewitt - 33
Nigel Lappin - 30
Andrew McDougall - 30
Jim Plunkett - 30
TOTAL 1082

Team Red & Blue:
Shane Crawford - 113
Des Headland - 96
Nathan G. Brown - 95
Paul Dimattina - 76
Mark Ricciuto - 71
Peter Matera - 69
Paul Hasleby - 66
Troy Makepeace - 65
Andrew Leoncelli - 61
Travis Johnstone - 60
Ang Christou - 58
Jason Johnson - 57
Richard Vandenberg - 57
Paul Wheatley - 57
Rayden Tallis - 48
Duncan Kellaway - 46
Stephen Powell - 46
Simon Godfrey - 44
Ben Hart - 43
Brett Voss - 41
TOTAL 1269

West Coast
Ben Cousins - 93
Kane Johnson - 90
Jason Akermanis - 82
Shane Woewodin - 76
Gavin Wanganeen - 63
Brett Burton - 62
Ty Zantuck - 57
Michael Braun - 55
Anthony Franchina - 52
Josh Francou - 45
Jason Saddington - 42
Josh Wooden - 42
Adam Ramanauskas - 36
Jeremy Humm - 35
Greg Tivendale - 33
Michael Collica - 31
David Haynes - 27
Michael Mansfield - 23
Dean Cox - 6
David Bourke - 0
TOTAL 950

West. Bulldogs
Nick Riewoldt - 120
Ben Robbins - 89
Brad Johnson - 83
Stewart Loewe - 75
Martin Pike - 66
Daniel Giansiracusa - 64
Simon Garlick - 63
Shaun Hart - 63
Brad Scott - 62
Justin Longmuir - 58
Peter Bell - 56
Lindsay Gilbee - 55
Jason Torney - 45
Stephen Doyle - 43
Craig McRae - 40
Simon Fletcher - 39
Nathan D. Brown - 37
Callum Chambers - 37
Andrew Schauble - 36
Dylan Smith - 33
TOTAL 1164


I'm going to post a thread on the Games Board for people to nominate for the draft. If anyone is interested in taking part next year, then nominate here, or wait for the other thread.

 

[Deestroy]

Good to know I would have been on top of the combined ladder, good form at the right time in the season

 

[Portia]

On the trading period, its probably silly to do it before the main draft, as you could lose your player to delisting or retirement before then.....the main cull happens just prior to the draft, so any trades for semi-fringe players you might make end up with you a player short.

 

[BIG POPPA PUMP]

19 wins from 22 and I take home nothing.

 

[BW]

Encouraging end to the season, 4th highest score overall. Watch out next year Chuck are certain finalists with all the youngsters having another preseason under there belt, and also i'll have a bit better luck with injuries. Ive also got a few trades in mind (looks at Porthos to see if he wants his interested in signing the No.1 ruckmen in the comp and his own teams captain)

Just an idea with the way the draft may go, maybe we can incorporate last years draft order in some way. Just say if a coach delists there 1st round pick from last year, they will get the first pick in the draft, if there the highest pick that is dropped. Dont know if its a good idea, just throwing up an idea. I also think priority picks for Brisbane and Kangaroos are a good idea as well.

Cheers

 

[Deestroy]

Originally posted by blueworms
Encouraging end to the season, 4th highest score overall. Watch out next year Chuck are certain finalists with all the youngsters having another preseason under there belt, and also i'll have a bit better luck with injuries. Ive also got a few trades in mind (looks at Porthos to see if he wants his interested in signing the No.1 ruckmen in the comp and his own teams captain)

Just an idea with the way the draft may go, maybe we can incorporate last years draft order in some way. Just say if a coach delists there 1st round pick from last year, they will get the first pick in the draft, if there the highest pick that is dropped. Dont know if its a good idea, just throwing up an idea. I also think priority picks for Brisbane and Kangaroos are a good idea as well.

Cheers

I actually think this idea has merit, not sure about the other coaches.

 

[SpecialBruce]

Originally posted by BIG POPPA PUMP
19 wins from 22 and I take home nothing.

You did better than me, I had 5 losses for the year.

The Bulldogs will be back bigger and better next year. If anyone is looking for trades then come to me during the trade period. I have some players who you would be interested in.

 

[Portia]

Originally posted by Deestroy
I actually think this idea has merit, not sure about the other coaches.

I'd rather stick with the Delist 5 from each 10 idea....this is messier to organize, and doesn't help much with bringing worse teams into it. It becomes a way for top sides to perfect their lists.

 

[Deestroy]

Originally posted by Porthos
I'd rather stick with the Delist 5 from each 10 idea....this is messier to organize, and doesn't help much with bringing worse teams into it. It becomes a way for top sides to perfect their lists.

I don't really like the 5 from each 10 idea, some 'groups' of 10 may have 6-7-8, whatever, players being delisted/retiring from their real teams. A coach in this situation may have a strong first 10 but a weak 30 after that, I'd prefer if we could keep our core group.

 

[mongrelpunt]

Its seems a hell of alot easier if we just pick completley new teams.

Either that, or

a) We have no trade period, or
b) We have a trade period, but no trading of draft picks.

We have a fair amount of time left, and I agree with Porthos, the trade period should be after the Pre-Season draft. Maybe a two-four week trade period before the draft in January, then once that's finished, go straight into the draft. The season itself won't start until the end of March, which is a lot of time.

 

[Portia]

Originally posted by Deestroy
I don't really like the 5 from each 10 idea, some 'groups' of 10 may have 6-7-8, whatever, players being delisted/retiring from their real teams. A coach in this situation may have a strong first 10 but a weak 30 after that, I'd prefer if we could keep our core group.

Can you think of any that would, and wouldn't be delisting/retiring those players for another go in the draft anyway?

 

[BW]

Originally posted by mongrelpunt
Its seems a hell of alot easier if we just pick completley new teams.

Either that, or

a) We have no trade period, or
b) We have a trade period, but no trading of draft picks.

We have a fair amount of time left, and I agree with Porthos, the trade period should be after the Pre-Season draft. Maybe a two-four week trade period before the draft in January, then once that's finished, go straight into the draft. The season itself won't start until the end of March, which is a lot of time.

I think keeping our current teams is a must. Makes it a lot more interesting. I think we should definatly have a trade period, option b is probably a good idea.

If we have the draft before the trade period, doesnt that mean there wont be many players in the draft. Or will we delist players before the draft? If this is the case we wont get the opportunity to trade some of our current players.

Maybe its a good idea to do the trade period ASAP, before any official AFL trading and drafts. This does pose the problem that team lists will change due to retirements and delistings, but this would be minimal as a lot of the retirees have already retired, and who would want to pick up a player who is on the fringe of being delisted. A lot of these players are probably without a club at the moment anyways. Hope that all makes sence.

Heres how it could run.

-With current lists we have a trading period prior to any offical AFL trading period and drafts. We would trade our current players to other clubs.
-We would then trim our lists to a set number, or maybe there should be no set number, and the coaches decide how many.
- All players who have been delisted would then enter the draft, along with all the players who will be picked up in the national and pre season drafts.
- We then run a draft, and by the end of this all teams should have 30 players (or whatever the number per club will be)

 

[Portia]

Originally posted by blueworms
If we have the draft before the trade period, doesnt that mean there wont be many players in the draft. Or will we delist players before the draft? If this is the case we wont get the opportunity to trade some of our current players.

To clarify, here is the structure being talked about

Real Trading Period
Real AFL drafts
MongrelPunt Trading Period
MongrelPunt draft

Maybe its a good idea to do the trade period ASAP, before any official AFL trading and drafts. This does pose the problem that team lists will change due to retirements and delistings, but this would be minimal as a lot of the retirees have already retired, and who would want to pick up a player who is on the fringe of being delisted. A lot of these players are probably without a club at the moment anyways. Hope that all makes sence.

Rushing it would be silly because people can get caught out again on something totally beyond control, like an unexpected retirement. The structure above looks workable.

Heres how it could run.

-With current lists we have a trading period prior to any offical AFL trading period and drafts. We would trade our current players to other clubs.
-We would then trim our lists to a set number, or maybe there should be no set number, and the coaches decide how many.
- All players who have been delisted would then enter the draft, along with all the players who will be picked up in the national and pre season drafts.
- We then run a draft, and by the end of this all teams should have 30 players (or whatever the number per club will be)

So how exactly does that give enough of a chance to bottom sides to make a competitive list? The trading sees no net improvement for a Brisbane, and with no quality required to be delisted to enter the draft, there's no realistic way they could be a contender.

 

[BW]

Originally posted by Porthos


To clarify, here is the structure being talked about

Real Trading Period
Real AFL drafts
MongrelPunt Trading Period
MongrelPunt draft

Rushing it would be silly because people can get caught out again on something totally beyond control, like an unexpected retirement. The structure above looks workable.



So how exactly does that give enough of a chance to bottom sides to make a competitive list? The trading sees no net improvement for a Brisbane, and with no quality required to be delisted to enter the draft, there's no realistic way they could be a contender.

That would make sense, still hella confused though.