Murphy or Ellis

[Eddie19]

If we get the number 1 pick which is likely who do you think would be a better choice Murhy or Ellis. I think Murphy because we need an in and under player desperately. thoughts

 

[stokesy]

If we win this week, I don't think we will get a PP.

 

[blangerang]

why is it likely that we will get the spoon we still verse port who cant play away this season, collingwood who are a rabble and the bombers who we have already beat once this year. i think were a good chance to not get the spoon

 

[BlueDreams]

I hated getting the first spoon, but have now come to the realisation that we need all the help we can get. The state of our club and list demands that we get first pick and a priority, preferably the only priority however I can't see the Hawks winning two more games so that doesn't seem likely.

No good being crap all year and then winning a few nothing games towards the end, can't believe I am saying this but I want to finish last as it is the best thing for our future..............

 

[stokesy]

No good being crap all year and then winning a few nothing games towards the end, can't believe I am saying this but I want to finish last as it is the best thing for our future..............

Are you sure it's the best thing for our future? Can you 100% gurantee me that a PP will make us a better side?

 

[NavyBlueBlood]

I wouldn't shoo in either Ellis or Murphy just yet, I think we will win a few more games, and miss the spoon and the PPs.

^^ In theory, a priority pick would help us in the future...or you could get a pick at number 4 who is useless, I guess we won't know until then!

 

[Blues_Man]

Que sera sera

 

[lou22]

I agree we need the priority pick. We lost so many picks because of draft penaties, we deserve the priority pick we have the worst list. If we end up on 22pts and dont get the pp the afl is a bloody joke.

 

[WTTF]

Both Murphy & Ellis are class acts................easily 200 games players for whoever gets them..........the Draft Camp will determine who the clubs prefer, as on pure football ability, I think it's pretty close.

Depends on what type of player your looking for too. Murphy is a better in & under player than Ellis at present, but Ellis is about 8cm taller than Murphy. Both looked reasonably similar in terms of quickness/speed to me.

Our worst nightmare would be for Murphy to go to Brisbane and Hawthorn to have the 1st pick.........we end up with neither.

 

[Funkalicous]

Exactly WTTF. These 2 players are absolute gems and we need to do everything in our power to get 1 of them. Forget a couple of meaningless wins. These players will manufactor MANY more wins in the future.

What would you rather, a 2 day buzz from winning a game, or a 200 game champion?

 

[HBF]

Exactly WTTF. These 2 players are absolute gems and we need to do everything in our power to get 1 of them. Forget a couple of meaningless wins. These players will manufactor MANY more wins in the future.

What would you rather, a 2 day buzz from winning a game, or a 200 game champion?

Funky, come draft day, you're sitting on the table next to Pagan, Kinnear, etc and you're the CFC Recruiting Manager with the number one pick. Which name do you call out first, assuming that Murphy is available?

Much prefer a 200 game champion. Winning a couple of games late in the year means nothing.

IMO, the only game we have a chance of winning is against Collingwood. We won't get near Port this week.

 

[gandaal]

We have no say so this is all nonsense and most of us haven't seen the kids enough to actually make a educated judgement. That said this seems a choice between a player with a ton of potential who has the right bodysize and a player with a smaller bodysize but who's already shown that he's a top class player at the U18 All Australian Championships (which from previous exprience seems to mean very little).

If we have the number 1 pick I'd go for Ellis and hope that Murphy isn't picked up by the Hawks (which is a possibility despite what people have been saying) and that Collingwood win another game. However if we do pick Murphy what isn't a possiblity, from what we've heard, is that Ellis wouldn't get picked up by the Hawks.

 

[Silvagnis]

I'd prefer Murphy given I've fallen for the hype. But if he goes to the Lion under the F-S we still aren't going to lose out with Ellis,etc.

 

[Funkalicous]

I'd pick Ellis because he would comliment Hurn well. Although, neither choice is actually up to me. And if we end picking a soft dime-a-dozen outside player with our 1st rounder, then I'd want Murphy with the pp. Does that make sense?

 

[nightcrawler]

The mail does seem to be that Ellis is the Hawk's man. Although at this stage in 2003 most people would have sworn Tenace was our man, so things can change quickly.

The question really is would they settle for Murphy (or take him to spite us) if we took Ellis first, or would they go for someone else.

 

[Funkalicous]

The mail does seem to be that Ellis is the Hawk's man. Although at this stage in 2003 most people would have sworn Tenace was our man, so things can change quickly.

The question really is would they settle for Murphy (or take him to spite us) if we took Ellis first, or would they go for someone else.

They would take Murphy for sure. That's an absolute garantee!

 

[cs61]

We wouldnt miss either murphy or ellis at 2....... we'd take ellis over murphy, but doesn't mean we'd pass on him either if he was only one available...

1 (Carlton) Murphy
2 (Hawthorn) Ellis
3 (Carlton) Hurn
4 (Hawthorn) Clark

Wouldn't be surprised if that is what the draft order will be...

 

[HBF]

We wouldnt miss either murphy or ellis at 2....... we'd take ellis over murphy, but doesn't mean we'd pass on him either if he was only one available...

1 (Carlton) Murphy
2 (Hawthorn) Ellis
3 (Carlton) Hurn
4 (Hawthorn) Clark

Wouldn't be surprised if that is what the draft order will be...

Why would the Hawks go for another big KPP when they drafted Buddy and Roughy last year

 

[Funkalicous]

Why would the Hawks go for another big KPP when they drafted Buddy and Roughy last year

Hawthorn want another ruckman..

BTW cschreuder61, I like that Phantom draft.

 

[parrot]

If we get the number 1 pick which is likely who do you think would be a better choice Murhy or Ellis. I think Murphy because we need an in and under player desperately. thoughts

We'll get both.

 

[gandaal]

We'll get both.

Good to see you actually contribute to the Carlton forum for once, for a while there I thought you were posting on bigfooty just to irritate everyone... not that three words and a smilie face is actually contributing.

 

[pumped]

I agree we need the priority pick. We lost so many picks because of draft penaties, we deserve the priority pick we have the worst list. If we end up on 22pts and dont get the pp the afl is a bloody joke.

How is it that so many Carlton supporters are so sure we have the worst list. Is this because of our ladder position, Denis' comments or perhaps media comments. Did we have the worst list in the Wiz Final when West Coast hit the lead and we overtook them?

How many have gone through the lists of Clubs like North, Collingwood, Hawthorn, Richmond etc etc player for player and matched them against our list?

 

[gandaal]

How is it that so many Carlton supporters are so sure we have the worst list. Is this because of our ladder position, Denis' comments or perhaps media comments. Did we have the worst list in the Wiz Final when West Coast hit the lead and we overtook them?

How many have gone through the lists of Clubs like North, Collingwood, Hawthorn, Richmond etc etc player for player and matched them against our list?

We lack the star power of many other clubs. We have Fev, Kouta, Stevens, Whitnall, Campo and Lappin. Three of them have had a bad year this year and Kouta, Lappin and Campo won't be playing in two years time. We have a few potential stars on the rise but not enough to get us where we want to be in the future.

 

[davo4030]

If you take Ellis, he will not play AFL next year: Too skinny.

 

[Effes]

Take Murphy.........he will be a captain. Does Ellis have the same leadership qualities?