My Big TOE

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I'm sure most of you are aware of [PLAYERCARD]Tom Campbell[/PLAYERCARD]'s Theory of everything but if you arnt and have a bit of time then watch these videos.
It will blow your mind. I started following him after experimenting with Out of body travel, he really is onto something here.


If quantum mechanics hasn't profoundly shocked you, you haven't understood it yet.

 

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[Shane Heard]

If we don’t watch a match then it didn’t happen

Only the stats and the recording of the match show us it did happen

This guy has a few screws loose

Probably takes shrooms and LSD

 

[ferball]

If we don’t watch a match then it didn’t happen

Only the stats and the recording of the match show us it did happen

This guy has a few screws loose

Probably takes shrooms and LSD

Yeah but something watches the match.

Its like if a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound? Well it makes something, a hole in the forest canopy if nothing else. The thing we call a sound is also other things. The experience of hearing that sound ... well if you aren't there you won't hear it.

But the other trees in the forest will.

I think he means everything is conscious, just not of everything all the time.

Which is basically Buddhism anyway yeah?

 

[demondavey]

Yeah but something watches the match.

Its like if a tree falls in the forest does it make a sound? Well it makes something, a hole in the forest canopy if nothing else. The thing we call a sound is also other things. The experience of hearing that sound ... well if you aren't there you won't hear it.

But the other trees in the forest will.

I think he means everything is conscious, just not of everything all the time.

Which is basically Buddhism anyway yeah?

Of course the falling tree makes a sound. Not hearing it doesn’t mean it doesn’t makes a sound. Just because you’re not in the vicinity to hear doesn’t dispel the fact that a falling tree does not make a sound. Sounds don’t occur because you’re there, they are a product of natural and unnatural occurrences.

 

[ferball]

Of course the falling tree makes a sound. Not hearing it doesn’t mean it doesn’t makes a sound. Just because you’re not in the vicinity to hear doesn’t dispel the fact that a falling tree does not make a sound. Sounds don’t occur because you’re there, they are a product of natural and unnatural occurrences.

Kind of.

What happens is the vibration from the energy released by the fall moves thru the surrounding area (as does any air displaced by the fall.)

But you turn that into "sound" as your ears pick up the vibrations and your brain interprets that sensory information. So the "sound" happens inside your head, as does the hearing process (ie a sense organ intercepts the energy and transmits it to a brain that creates meaning from it.) If you aren't there you don't turn it into sound by processing the energy that makes your eardrum vibrate.

The point of the question is to understand that an event in reality is one thing and how your brain interprets and interacts with it is another.

ie - There are two things happening. One is the physical event of the tree falling, the other is the interpretation of the event by sensory organs and the nervous system they are connected to.

 

[demondavey]

Kind of.

What happens is the vibration from the energy released by the fall moves thru the surrounding area (as does any air displaced by the fall.)

But you turn that into "sound" as your ears pick up the vibrations and your brain interprets that sensory information. So the "sound" happens inside your head, as does the hearing process (ie a sense organ intercepts the energy and transmits it to a brain that creates meaning from it.) If you aren't there you don't turn it into sound by processing the energy that makes your eardrum vibrate.

The point of the question is to understand that an event in reality is one thing and how your brain interprets and interacts with it is another.

ie - There are two things happening. One is the physical event of the tree falling, the other is the interpretation of the event by sensory organs and the nervous system they are connected to.

If you were there it would make a sound. To suggest it doesn’t because you’re not there defies logic.