NAB Challenge 2016

[Dark Sharks]

Lecras is shit. Delist.

 

[Happy Mastenator]

Lol he was saying gov looks like he could turn into a fat campaigner very quickly if he stopped training for a bit.

But on topic whitnall played a bit at both ends

Whitnall could play a bit despite being a fat campaigner.

 

[wraglesweb]

McGovern's kicking is very underated....

 

[Xsess]

My only take out from preseason is McKenzie moving freely and looking in supreme condition. Forget the other new additions, Eric is the bloke who improves us.

By a shit load.

 

[avishka5]

does anyone rekon mackenzie will get back to his best? i dont think he will get back to his 2013/14 form but will be still pretty good. unfortunatley will be one of the unluckiest player in recent years not to win an AA but hopelfully he ends up with a premiership medallion or 2.

 

[Biggie]

does anyone rekon mackenzie will get back to his best?.

Yes.

 

[boondy]

McGovern's kicking is very underated....

his elite kicking means half back he is better utilised

 

[Happy Mastenator]

his elite kicking means half back he is better utilised

Given we have shep and Hurn coming off the backline we have elite kicks back there not to mention good kicks in Nelson and Wellers. Even eMac and Schofield are good kicks (in that they kick to their limits), so not as essential to have him in the back half.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

McGovern's kicking is very underated....

As Simpson would say, "maybe by you but he is not underated at our club"

 

[Farang83150]

does anyone rekon mackenzie will get back to his best?

100% yes and he'll have an extra year or more in him.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Given we have shep and Hurn coming off the backline we have elite kicks back there not to mention good kicks in Nelson and Wellers. Even eMac and Schofield are good kicks (in that they kick to their limits), so not as essential to have him in the back half.

Disagree on eMac and Schofield being good kicks. Schofield is technically a better kick but makes poor decisions which leads to problems. Schofield was responsible for 2 turnovers on Sunday due to poor kicking/decision making.

 

[bUCKET__]

Schoey has been very rusting during NAB in general. Maybe a bit of variation on his role this year that he's working through? Not all to worried though, I'm sure he'll pull it together

 

[avishka5]

Disagree on eMac and Schofield being good kicks. Schofield is technically a better kick but makes poor decisions which leads to problems. Schofield was responsible for 2 turnovers on Sunday due to poor kicking/decision making.

emacs an ok kick. he tries to pull off extremely hard kicks too often and some occasions does go with his left and shanks it. just needs to kick within his limits.

 

[ChampRevesby]

emacs an ok kick. he tries to pull off extremely hard kicks too often and some occasions does go with his left and shanks it. just needs to kick within his limits.

 

[avishka5]

thats why i said ok. Plus that kick was out of his limit any way. if that was on a wing, you wouldnt want emac to attempt it.

 

[nameless]

Didn't Wellingham do the same thing last year against GC?

Which ended up being a fairly costly point...

 

[iLikeIt]

Disagree on eMac and Schofield being good kicks. Schofield is technically a better kick but makes poor decisions which leads to problems. Schofield was responsible for 2 turnovers on Sunday due to poor kicking/decision making.

Schoey had a 88.9% DE from 7 kicks and 2 handballs. EMac had 100% DE from 10 kicks, 5 handballs.

I'm pretty sure any team would be happy with that kind of efficiency from their key backs - especially EMac in his first game back. I also don't remember the turnovers from Schoey, when in the game were they? I remember thinking he was really good with his disposals in the first quarter so must have forgotten the ones you are talking about. In NAB 2 I thought he was terrible btw (but put it down to him just being rusty).

edit - not EMac's first game back. Not sure why I wrote that. Those stats in second game back from long injury is still a good sign. His DE was ~82% in NAB2 btw.

 

[boondy]

Dunno if this has been spoken about in here but I noticed both teams doing the double switch out of the backline, wont be long and we'll be seeing the triple switch. I swear the AFL needs to introduce a rule that if you go backwards its play on in your back half to stop this boring sideways and backwards movement.

It retains possession and quite often a hole opens up in the corridor with a player running into an open space . Possession of the ball very important rather than kick to a contest.

 

[Tom_Thumb]

It retains possession and quite often a hole opens up in the corridor with a player running into an open space . Possession of the ball very important rather than kick to a contest.

I understand what it does, I'm complaining about it looking like circle work. Defenders have to decide if they are going to run 90 degrees across the oval to defend or stay in the middle and wait for the reverse. It will be easy to defeat, if you see a block down one side and the defender runs over to that side then its definitely going to get reversed back. I don't like it so defend it how ever you want your not changing my mind.

 

[Eaglemaniac]

Schoey had a 88.9% DE from 7 kicks and 2 handballs. EMac had 100% DE from 10 kicks, 5 handballs.

I'm pretty sure any team would be happy with that kind of efficiency from their key backs - especially EMac in his first game back. I also don't remember the turnovers from Schoey, when in the game were they? I remember thinking he was really good with his disposals in the first quarter so must have forgotten the ones you are talking about. In NAB 2 I thought he was terrible btw (but put it down to him just being rusty).

Mate, thats a bit of a cherry picking of games there. It wasnt Emacs first game back, and he has been known for turning the ball over quite regularly by foot during his career, however, he was good on sunday, and i hope that he continues to work on it because if anything is going to undo the Weagles Web or whatever we're doing this year, its a backman that cant hit targets.

 

[iLikeIt]

It retains possession and quite often a hole opens up in the corridor with a player running into an open space . Possession of the ball very important rather than kick to a contest.

I don't have a problem with the switch when it is done quickly and effectively. But I hate seeing teams, including us, consider it as their first and only option every time we get the ball in the defensive 50. Because what happens against the better teams is they learn that you switch every time, and block it off, then you go back the other way, and get in to all sorts of strife or you end up having to bomb it long and lose possession. We have some pretty good marks and runners in our team so I wish we'd look first at the centre corridor especially if we have Gov or Darling or Yeo slotting in there, and if that's too risky then go the switch. The important thing I think is mixing it up and be willing to go coast to coast occasionally to keep the opposition guessing. I thought we had the balance pretty good on the weekend but it was against Essendon so hard to tell.

 

[iLikeIt]

Mate, thats a bit of a cherry picking of games there. It wasnt Emacs first game back, and he has been known for turning the ball over quite regularly by foot during his career, however, he was good on sunday, and i hope that he continues to work on it because if anything is going to undo the Weagles Web or whatever we're doing this year, its a backman that cant hit targets.

??? I was responding to someone talking about their kicking in NAB3. Not cherry picking, just saying the stats for both were good in NAB3 and not bad as they said in their post.

 

[AsterixTheGaul]

Schoey had a 88.9% DE from 7 kicks and 2 handballs. EMac had 100% DE from 10 kicks, 5 handballs.

I'm pretty sure any team would be happy with that kind of efficiency from their key backs - especially EMac in his first game back. I also don't remember the turnovers from Schoey, when in the game were they? I remember thinking he was really good with his disposals in the first quarter so must have forgotten the ones you are talking about. In NAB 2 I thought he was terrible btw (but put it down to him just being rusty).

No problems with eMac on Sunday - comment more about him being slightly below average.

Schofield on Sunday - one was in the third quarter railway side and I recall commenting a couple of times he took the wrong option and kicked to an adverse contest when there were low risk more obvious leads open. Cannot recall the exact quarter for the other. Agree that he appeared really rusty v Suns. My general feeling is that we look to have 2014 Schofield playing and not the Schofield we saw in 2015. Hope to be proven wrong with this one.

 

[Eastern Rangers]

his elite kicking means half back he is better utilised

His kicking was under utilised in a lock down role last year, he didn't get up the ground as much as i'd have liked to see, but his spring boards us back into attack well when he intercept marks the ball. That and his goal kicking ability was also under utilised, he's neat in front of goals as he gets straight through the ball more often than either Kennedy or Darling.

 

[WCEbrody]

Mackenzie being an average kick is fine as long as he knows it and keeps it simple. I can't imagine him trying any bullet passes through the corridor.

Not to mention we have Hurn,McGovern,Sheppard,Wellingham,Ellis,Butler and now Nelson that are good kicks. Gone are the days of Hurn being our only reliable kick coming out of defence.