Preview Needs To Lift - Round 2

[Tulip]

Dead-set raging!

4. Jack Watts
Copped a forward tag and was completely nullified. Didn't have a bloody clue and all but proved the theory that he can only be AFL standard when he floats at half back. He doesn't rise to expectation, and I expect nothing from him next week. 20 DT points.

8. James Frawley
What happened, James? Not long ago you had mongrel, you impacted the pack, you rebounded, you were enthusiastic. Now you just look at loss. I can't remember the last time a forward kicked 4 on you. Clearly in need of guidance.

14. Lynden Dunn (week 2)
Absolutely putrid. Doesn't know how to take a kick in or how to take a man, or how to do anything but be a faux-aggressor.After a mini revival last season, regressed spectacularly today and may not see game 101 for a while if this coach has any balls.

15. David Rodan
With his first touch, tried to jinx his way around a Port player who grinned and slammed him to the ground. Does try, but had little effect.

20. Colin Garland (week 2)
Started the game off with a standard couple of brain fades. Improved, but when confronted with a man didn't do a single thing. Provides no threat in a match up, or as a rebounder. Fear that his papers will soon be stamped.

21. Cameron Pedersen
The conjecture is that he has a big ego, and I thought that shone through. Plodded about until Clark came off and he was allowed to lead. Led to his best 5 minutes of the game (aside from that mark) until he became invisible again. His squib 60 out from goal was as bad as Davey's against St Kilda in 2011. Not really sure why we recruited him.

26. Dan Nicholson
I don't think he played as poorly as others made out, but his lack of ball skills shone today. Didn't take the game on from the HBF which usually masks his clangers, and when he doesn't do that he's VFL standard.

27. Tom Gillies
Possibly the worst player I've seen in a Melbourne jumper (yes, including Juice, Weetra and Jacey Bode). Looks overweight, and he seems to be completely unaware of his surrounds. I counted a few times when our defence was 2 on 2, and he decided to take Frawley's man with Chip and let the other bloke run into the middle and either score or improve the spread. If what Carey said is true, and he and a few others are having a beard-growing competition, I wouldn't be against a rocket up the arse and a warning. Can't play football, and has a shit attitude. GAGF, Tom Gillies.

30. James Sellar (week 2)
Good pre-season, didn't perform. He needs to impact the contest, and it took him 3 quarters of dropped chest marks and general ineffectiveness before he started doing this and playing third man up. Poor today.

35. Luke Tapscott (week 2)
What does he do exactly? Highlight of the day was putting a bouncing ball in our forward line on the full with a ridiculous soccer kick. Truly awful, remains position less and is at fault for us looking like we were a man or two down. Was given a chance, hope he enjoys the drive to Casey next weekend.

40. Mark Jamar
Won a spectacular 35 tap outs against Port's nobody ruckmen, and fed it down the power's midfields throats. No coincidence that his peak and fall coincided with Brisbane's Brent Moloney's. Beyond me that Neeld hasn't practiced positioning at the bounce!

 

[Surkin]

Shannon Byrnes?

 

[rhaz]

Mark Neeld needs to ****ing lift. He takes the blame for bringing in all these recycled turds

 

[ponsdale]

I feel this is going to be a long thread.....

....and a long season.

 

[Bluelegs]

No Frawley? Yesterday was the worst game I've ever seen him play.

 

[Tulip]

Shannon Byrnes?

I don't think he was as terrible as the above.

No Frawley? Yesterday was the worst game I've ever seen him play.

Fair point, he's getting a nomination.

 

[CM Sean]

Shannon Byrnes?

I believe there was an effort there, but there was only so much he could do with all those around him wasting their space. lol

 

[Darksidepoints]

Dan Nicholson was about the worst out there for me. An absolute embarrassment. Can run (in time trials and practice mind you) and that is it. AFL is way out of his depth. He simply looks scared to be there. First half was deplorable and directly cost us a handful of goals. How did he get a game before some of our other guys?

 

[Tulip]

Dan Nicholson was about the worst out there for me. An absolute embarrassment. Can run (in time trials and practice mind you) and that is it. AFL is way out of his depth. He simply looks scared to be there. First half was deplorable and directly cost us a handful of goals. How did he get a game before some of our other guys?

For me, he's another who would shine at a Collingwood rather than a Melbourne. Needs protection to play his natural game, but is getting none of it.

 

[CM Sean]

This may sound stupid to some, and I don't by any means suggest that it's the solution we're after. But; I'd love to see how the forward line functions with both Clark and Dawes in the middle of it. I want to see what happens when both men are playing. And I really hope we get the chance to see it this week. Too reliant on Clark alone, and no one else seems to be threating. (besides Howe. I guess)

Clark is better than Dawes. I believe, and most others I think would agree with me. But with both men up there, opposition teams cannot afford to triple team Clark, whilst leaving Dawes on his own. Even if Dawes serves to be the forward line decoy, I think having both Clark and Dawes in the same forward line can only improve our scoring chances more than it can to disrupt them.

 

[Jars458]

What was going on with Toumpas. He was sitting 30 meters off the play it seemed for most of the game. He has an elite leg, it needs to be used. I think he could be anything but needs to get amongst it.

 

[syl]

This may sound stupid to some, and I don't by any means suggest that it's the solution we're after. But; I'd love to see how the forward line functions with both Clark and Dawes in the middle of it. I want to see what happens when both men are playing. And I really hope we get the chance to see it this week. Too reliant on Clark alone, and no one else seems to be threating. (besides Howe. I guess)

Clark is better than Dawes. I believe, and most others I think would agree with me. But with both men up there, opposition teams cannot afford to triple team Clark, whilst leaving Dawes on his own. Even if Dawes serves to be the forward line decoy, I think having both Clark and Dawes in the same forward line can only improve our scoring chances more than it can to disrupt them.

That was the problem. Clark kicked 2 goals so they just said "welp, these other guys are ****ing hopeless, so lets all just defend the one afl standard player on their list"

 

[Bluelegs]

What was going on with Toumpas. He was sitting 30 meters off the play it seemed for most of the game. He has an elite leg, it needs to be used. I think he could be anything but needs to get amongst it.

I don't think he's ready for AFL football yet. Fair enough, few 18 year olds are.

 

[syl]

Melbourne need 12 Jack Viney's running, defending, tackling and feeding the ball to 6 Mitch Clark's who are also running, tackling, defending and clunking marks.

 

[CM Sean]

Looked a little nervous to me, especially when the belting begun to really settle in. Was handballing alot, especially to those already under intense pressure. Cannot fault him on game 1 too much, so I one wouldn't worry too much about it. Will take some time for him to adjust, but I'm sure he will.

 

[Jordie_tackles]

No Frawley? Yesterday was the worst game I've ever seen him play.

pretty close to wasnt it, I think we need Tom Mcdonald back asap

Pederson and Sellar are to much up front imo. Just go Dawes and Mitch and open up the space and put it infront of them not on their heads.....

Ports midfield is so far superior to us atm and it is probably bottom 4 in itself, Viney genuinely is our second best player and may get tagged for lols soon when they realise this is the case.

Seriously Jones........Viney..........

Port had Boak, Hartlett, Ebert, Wines, and others i probably dont know enough of

 

[stretcharmstrong]

Garland, Pederson, Gillies, Nicholson and Tapscott should not be on notice. They should be playing at Casey.

Unfortunately for Jimmy T, he needs to play some VFL also, not his fault because he's a first year player, it's just where he is at. No shame in it.

 

[Bluelegs]

I would bring in Terlich, Jetta, and Mcdonald for Garland/Dunn, Gillies, Pederson/Sellar. Our backline was far too tall yesterday and needs to rebalance itself. For our midfield we still have no outside run or pace. We're slow as a mule and twice as ugly. For the midfield I would put Trengove in, get rid of Tapscott, make Blease a starter on the wing, make rodan the sub and debut Taggert (The kid is an absolute jet at vfl level, can play inside or outside, will provide some spread) send Toumpas to the VFL he just isn't ready yet. I went to the Geelong/Hawthorn game today and something I noticed was the awareness, and rapid ability to make decisions and move the ball quickly The players trusted each other they didn't even have to look and they could handball to a loose player who could get some run and kick the ball. Players never had to look far to find a target leading to a kick.

 

[LeverPuller]

Mitch provided the second-most endeavour out there. At least when he lost possession, he ran, he chased. This is a bloke who hasn't run for most of the last year.

 

[CTHORANGE]

Mitch provided the second-most endeavour out there. At least when he lost possession, he ran, he chased. This is a bloke who hasn't run for most of the last year.

Good call, one of the very few who can say he played for the team. Number 1 guy who needs to lift is Tapscott, but I doubt he will get the chance this week. I remember when Bailey was coaching and we were screaming out for a small defender, he started playing that role and looked alright at it and showed some potential, his kicking was good, he tackling was good, his competitiveness at the ball and the man was good, wtf happened to him

 

[lose]

Good call, one of the very few who can say he played for the team. Number 1 guy who needs to lift is Tapscott, but I doubt he will get the chance this week. I remember when Bailey was coaching and we were screaming out for a small defender, he started playing that role and looked alright at it and showed some potential, his kicking was good, he tackling was good, his competitiveness at the ball and the man was good, wtf happened to him

Considering how much of preseason Tappy seemed to spend in the rehab group I'm not sure why he was even selected for round 1 too be honest.. should of had terlich and Jetta both in the team before Tappy and Toumpas.. it was simply poor selection