New Board

[Wally07]

Since the Adelaide game I have read many complaints mainly surrounding the fact that older players who cannot cut it were played and it is now time to play the kids. I have to say I think you are all being a bit naive expecting the kids to start playingt this week, this unlikely to happen. It is not Wallace's way and the proof is through his first three and a half years at the tigers, he has not done it to date so why is he going to change now. The only way we will get a new direction on the field is for the president and the board to provide clear and strong direction that left Wallace with little choice. Again this is not going to happen with the proof being if we had a strong and clear direction then draft picks would not have been continually traded under the Wallace and Miller reign.

We currently do not have a coach or a board who are prepared to take a strong stand like the Hawthorns and that the only way things will change is through a new board. A board who will set a clear direction, a board who will not allow draft picks to be traded away and will focus on using the draft to rebuild, a board who will enforce the coach to play younger players over older players, a board who will work with the current coach but if he is unwilling to fall into line then will appoint a new coach, a board who will bring Richmond people back to the club and on the board, a board who will strive for long term success.

Now I know of a successful group of Richmond people who are willing to enter the fray and set this direction but they first want to guage what the feeling like with Richmond members. They are cautious about a challenge since they do not want to create unecessary upheavel if Richmond people are happy with the current plight. The previous group got badly burnt from their challenge and they are also mindful of that.

So I ask you would you be willing to take a punt on a new direction as the one pointed out above or are you happy with the current direction of no finals in the last 6 years?
Are you happy with the current board and Wallace and Millers performance?
If a new group ran what would you like to see from them?
Finally what sort of President would you want heading the football club?

 

[peejay]

Are ypu Hutchy?

The way you have asked the question is rather one sided. "Do we want a new direction or are you happy with the direction of no finals?"

Not all of us are stupid .

 

[Bojangles17]

Are you happy with the current board and Wallace and Millers performance?

Those two questions need to be answered separately. In the current climate, the board has a primary responsibility to ensure the long term viability of our football club well into the future. In the last couple of years Steve Wright is delivering on that plan in successfully gaining funding for facility development at both Punt Rd and Craigieburn. This will be a solid platform both on and off field to build on in future. Recruiting and player development have been bolstered with appointments in last 12 months. These actions are all resultant of a clear and concise direction and delivered on.

Next question is the football dept delivering on their objectives. We have seen subtle signs of improvement. In my mind 8+ wins is a pass mark for 2008, anything less should raise further questions over the relative value of those in charge.

In summary I support eh direction of the board and have faith in the moves that have been made are fundamentally correct and will position us well for the future. In a football sense, the jury remains out on the ability to extract the most from the list we have at our disposal with decisions and results that continue to confound the football world

 

[froars]

Extremely happy with the board and coach.
Any new group that is successful in challenging would need to make sure they are successful because some of us are sick to death of big heads who think they know best and then lead us to disaster.
I think if another challenge occurs and the results are disastrous, I wouldn't want to be you.
But at the same time, you'd be taking over after TW and co have prepared the way and done all the groundwork, so you won't get any thanks from me even if you were successful.
But ultimately, success is all that matters.
I don't care who does it, just do it FFS

 

[Sausage roll]

The board have done a great job when you consider the mess they inherited( wiht the exception of Miller of course who has had the most influence over the composition of the curent list). We are financial and it isn't their fault Miller and his mates chose JON!

I am a little worried about March, however and we need a more forceful president. For instance, how did we for the fourth year in a row draw the premiers twice? How do Geelong get such a free hit ?

Who is Vice-preisdent? Could he take over?

 

[richmond fanatic]

lmao!! omg im talking to hutchy! haha

ummm.........

well I can take Wallace, but I cant stand Miller.

I just want a club that the players will have a passion for playing and I think bringing in some past players would be the way to go.

Just Hutchy, please I beg you to put some pressure on Richmond. Those kids are locked in Coburg prison!

 

[UpTheGuts]

The Board is crap.

Had we voted in the Big 4 ticket, things would be different. No Miller. No JON...

Don;t say I didn't warn you a few years back...

 

[telsor]

I think the board is doing an excellent job.

They're getting more money coming in, and are increasing the budget of the football department in a way that doesn't disturb the long term viability of the club ( remember, we still have lots of debt ).

Wallace, I'm willing to accept the jury is still out...I'd have hoped and expected us to be in a better position after 3.5 years, but I can see signs that things are getting better, so I think he should be allowed to see out his contract and start looking more seriously at the coaches position in the second half of next year.

Miller. It's hard to say as most of what he does is behind the scenes. In spite of popular opinion, he doesn't do the recruiting, but instead is the football manager, with influence in everything, but nothing directly upto him except the 'overall' results. As such, I'd say his fate is much like Terry's...Give him another year, and then asses the position we're at.

 

[UpTheGuts]

I think the board is doing an excellent job.

Dear oh dear. The $ position has improved (could it have got any worse?) but check out the coverage given to Paul Gardner stepping down from the Dees. If Gary March left, would anyone give a flying f?

Big 4 was a massive missed opportunity.

I should disclose that I was part of that team though, albeit an authorised lobbyist rather than a candidate.

 

[Sausage roll]

I think the board is doing an excellent job.

They're getting more money coming in, and are increasing the budget of the football department in a way that doesn't disturb the long term viability of the club ( remember, we still have lots of debt ).

Wallace, I'm willing to accept the jury is still out...I'd have hoped and expected us to be in a better position after 3.5 years, but I can see signs that things are getting better, so I think he should be allowed to see out his contract and start looking more seriously at the coaches position in the second half of next year.

Miller. It's hard to say as most of what he does is behind the scenes. In spite of popular opinion, he doesn't do the recruiting, but instead is the football manager, with influence in everything, but nothing directly upto him except the 'overall' results. As such, I'd say his fate is much like Terry's...Give him another year, and then asses the position we're at.

So all care no responibilty? I don't think anyoe has said he does the recruiting but rather that he oversaw it and had a significant input. It was Miller who was watching all the various carnivals and trying to spot talent.

 

[True Thylacine]

Dear oh dear. The $ position has improved (could it have got any worse?) but check out the coverage given to Paul Gardner stepping down from the Dees. If Gary March left, would anyone give a flying f?Big 4 was a massive missed opportunity.

I should disclose that I was part of that team though, albeit an authorised lobbyist rather than a candidate.

I have always gone my the maxim that the more you see of your Club President in the media the deeper the shit you are in. March being unrecognisable is a reflection of how well he, and hence we, are travelling.

 

[Bojangles17]

Dear oh dear. The $ position has improved (could it have got any worse?) but check out the coverage given to Paul Gardner stepping down from the Dees. If Gary March left, would anyone give a flying f?

Big 4 was a massive missed opportunity.

I should disclose that I was part of that team though, albeit an authorised lobbyist rather than a candidate.

the fact alone that you draw conclusions on the publicity a poorly performing Melb prez attracts makes me grateful that you weren't successful, who was on the ticket, the %^%$# Grog squad, gimmee a break

 

[Wally07]

Stevie Wright is doing an excellent job and this would hopefully continue. Please analyse the board with the exception of Stevie.

It took us a year to adjust our recruiting after March first discussed the issue. If was done earlier then the McMahon deal might not have occurred.

It has be at least 3 months since he said that Miller needed to leave the board. Still nothing has happened.

Miller has been at the club for 6 1/2 years with significant list management responsibilities. With the quality of our list any other person would have been shown the door. Why is he still here?

You all ask for Wallace's head and for kids to be played. This club does not move fast so don't believe it is going to happen. Wallace will see out his contract under this board.

Just picture trade time with no changes at the top and we trade for another McMahon or Polak instead of having faith in the draft. The history is there with this group of people leading our club that this will happen unless we stop it but for this to occur there needs to be support.

 

[telsor]

So all care no responibilty? I don't think anyoe has said he does the recruiting but rather that he oversaw it and had a significant input. It was Miller who was watching all the various carnivals and trying to spot talent.

No, it's what's called a management role....My boss has only a general idea about the specifics of what I do on a day to day basis, his job is to understand the big picture and facilitate so I can do it better. Yes, occasionally he will get his hands dirty, get me to explain the detail of what I'm doing and make some suggestions or clarify my priorities but for the most part, he let's me do my job.

Is he responsible? Hell yes! If I stuff up, he'll probably cop more crap than I will, but again, that's part of his job.


As for watching the carnivals. Without having been there, I can make a fair guess that he wasn't the only Richmond person there.

 

[Bojangles17]

Miller has been at the club for 6 1/2 years with significant list management responsibilities. With the quality of our list any other person would have been shown the door. Why is he still here?

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I believe that the quality of our list has improved signifcantly, thats why questions are looming as to those charged with extracting the most from their player stocks.

Miller is a legacy of the former regime ans I am certain will be reviewed at season end. Once again focussing on performance of Miller as a reflection of Board is a smokescreen at best. Melbournes football dept was fairly sound in recent years yet their board was %^%$# that has now put them on the cusp of survival. Get with the program pal, roles within the club need to reviwed independantly VIABILITY, DIRECTION, SUSTAINABILITY, RESOURCE. are all ;questions that pertain to the board. FFS , next some goon will blame our kick outs on the board

 

[telsor]

FFS , next some goon will blame our kick outs on the board

Well, if March stopped kicking short to the pocket, we wouldn't have to blame him for it, would we?

 

[Sausage roll]

Stevie Wright is doing an excellent job and this would hopefully continue. Please analyse the board with the exception of Stevie.

It took us a year to adjust our recruiting after March first discussed the issue. If was done earlier then the McMahon deal might not have occurred.

It has be at least 3 months since he said that Miller needed to leave the board. Still nothing has happened.

Miller has been at the club for 6 1/2 years with significant list management responsibilities. With the quality of our list any other person would have been shown the door. Why is he still here?

You all ask for Wallace's head and for kids to be played. This club does not move fast so don't believe it is going to happen. Wallace will see out his contract under this board.

Just picture trade time with no changes at the top and we trade for another McMahon or Polak instead of having faith in the draft. The history is there with this group of people leading our club that this will happen unless we stop it but for this to occur there needs to be support.

Absolutley! Couldn't have put it better myself. There sems to be al ot of people who want to play semantics when it comes to Miller not being "technically in charge" of recruiting.

You have put it beautifully.

What has he done beside oversee 6.5 years of disaster? I reckon when he arirved everyone would have thought we would have a flag by now or at least be competing for one!

 

[richoatthedisco]

Steven Wright is not on the board, he is the CEO.
Get rid of Miller.
Get Benny Gale.

 

[UpTheGuts]

I have always gone my the maxim that the more you see of your Club President in the media the deeper the shit you are in. March being unrecognisable is a reflection of how well he, and hence we, are travelling.

Yeah, we're really going fantastically aren't we?

 

[telsor]

Yeah, we're really going fantastically aren't we?

There are 2 things here...the club, which is everything Richmond and the team, which is the guys who run out on the ground each week.

The team is doing crap.

The CLUB is doing well ( except for the team ).


Now yes, the most important part of the club is the team, but the responsibility of the board is to ensure the club continues and they give as good a foundation to the team as possible. They're paying off the debts, and increasing the money paid to the football department...ie, they're doing their job.

 

[froars]

We currently do not have a coach or a board who are prepared to take a strong stand like the Hawthorns and that the only way things will change is through a new board. A board who will set a clear direction, a board who will not allow draft picks to be traded away and will focus on using the draft to rebuild, a board who will enforce the coach to play younger players over older players, a board who will work with the current coach but if he is unwilling to fall into line then will appoint a new coach

Luv the policy speech, but really got an issue with this. Who wants a board that will interfere in the coaching department. Remember Cameron Schwab years back sitting in the coaches box and overseeing every move the coach made.

I want a coach to do his own thing. I don't want every move he makes interfered with by men in suits

BTW, who do you have in mind for coach?

 

[Bojangles17]

There are 2 things here...the club, which is everything Richmond and the team, which is the guys who run out on the ground each week.

The team is doing crap.

The CLUB is doing well ( except for the team ).


Now yes, the most important part of the club is the team, but the responsibility of the board is to ensure the club continues and they give as good a foundation to the team as possible. They're paying off the debts, and increasing the money paid to the football department...ie, they're doing their job.

thats it in a nutshell, unfortunately very difficult for most of the natives to separate the two

 

[True Thylacine]

Yeah, we're really going fantastically aren't we?

Wasnt referring to the on field, just the parts that the Board have direct responsibility for, one of which isnt our on field performance. Our sponsorship, debt position and general bottom line all seem to be going along very nicely, unlike a few short years ago.

 

[Heisenberg_]

Im quite happy making million dollar profits as well as a redevelopment of Punt Road, and first training facilities as Cragieburn on the way

 

[Sixtyseven]

So I ask you would you be willing to take a punt on a new direction as the one pointed out above or are you happy with the current direction of no finals in the last 6 years?
Are you happy with the current board and Wallace and Millers performance?
If a new group ran what would you like to see from them?
Finally what sort of President would you want heading the football club? [/quote]

You are on the money Wally. It is quite clear from the replies to your post that too many people, the Board, supporters and members accept compromise and second best. That is exactly what we got when Casey & Miller contrived to get the current Board elected.

This club is going absolutely nowhere until it begins to take some tough decisions and sets standards at the levels necessary to achieve success.

For the forseeable future, the Tigers will continue to be a second-rate club, bouncing around the middle of the ladder.

Let the campaign begin!