New Immigration changes

[CakeEater]

The Government has announced immigration reform

Changes include:
- streamlining the process essentially turning it into a 3 tier system -
low, medium and high end positions

-Restructuring the Skilled Migration list

-Giving visa holders a payrise from 53k to 70k

-Whilst on the face of it this all makes sense,I have concerns about the practical implementation of the wage rises. This will result in substantially increased cost of labour where the only logical solution is to increased costs for shoppers.

Australia's migration system is a mess of more than 100 visas. Here is how the government wants to clean it up

Lifting the minimum pay rate for skilled workers, tightening rules for people seeking to study in Australia, and ending the permanent migration cap are all changes on the table for the federal government, as it seeks to rewrite the rules on immigration.

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What are your thoughts?

 

[kickazz]

-Giving visa holders a payrise from 53k to 70k

What does this mean specifically?

 

[Saint]

What does this mean specifically?

The Government has announced immigration reform

Changes include:
- streamlining the process essentially turning it into a 3 tier system -
low, medium and high end positions

-Restructuring the Skilled Migration list

-Giving visa holders a payrise from 53k to 70k

-Whilst on the face of it this all makes sense,I have concerns about the practical implementation of the wage rises. This will result in substantially increased cost of labour where the only logical solution is to increased costs for shoppers.

Australia's migration system is a mess of more than 100 visas. Here is how the government wants to clean it up

Lifting the minimum pay rate for skilled workers, tightening rules for people seeking to study in Australia, and ending the permanent migration cap are all changes on the table for the federal government, as it seeks to rewrite the rules on immigration.

www.google.com

What are your thoughts?

I'm fascinated to know which employers are hiring people on $53k per year and calling them "skilled" and can't run their business if they have to pay skilled people $70k.

If you can't pay skilled people $70k, then you're not looking for "skilled" labour, you're looking for skilled people you can underpay.

 

[O Grobbecker]

I'm fascinated to know which employers are hiring people on $53k per year and calling them "skilled" and can't run their business if they have to pay skilled people $70k.

If you can't pay skilled people $70k, then you're not looking for "skilled" labour, you're looking for skilled people you can underpay.

Waiters from Italy, to work in Melbourne Italian Restaurants wanting "authenticity", pre-covid, were eligible for employer sponsored, skilled workers visas, ditto for chefs from mainland China, hindu priests for local temples. Skilled, for the purposes of immigration, is different from what the adjective appears to mean. Immigration is arguably the most corrupt sector of the economy. If anything is deserving of a Royal commission, it's immigration.

 

[Rob R]

I'm fascinated to know which employers are hiring people on $53k per year and calling them "skilled" and can't run their business if they have to pay skilled people $70k.

If you can't pay skilled people $70k, then you're not looking for "skilled" labour, you're looking for skilled people you can underpay.

Most of our "skilled" immigration is far from skilled, some lobbyist just convinced a polly/public servant to put it on the list to keep wages down, avoid training under employed Australians and to keep the immigration ponzi scheme going.

Would quickly change if we had a truly independent body review monthly the list to ensure it matches the trades and quantities we really need and we put a 20% levy on wages paid to foreigners who arrive on that scheme with all funds to go to bolstering tafe access for Australian citizens

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[O Grobbecker]

Most of our "skilled" immigration is far from skilled, some lobbyist just convinced a polly/public servant to put it on the list to keep wages down, avoid training under employed Australians and to keep the immigration ponzi scheme going.

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Your first phrase is spot on but not the rest. Skilled visas were first introduced in the 1880s, German vintners to found the SA Wine industry. Historically, Australasia competed with the North Americas for British and European immigration, who would sail for 3 months, have to pay for passage and never come back when you could sail for a week, free and half your family were already there ? Sparsely used before post WW11 mass immigration, it's now the most misused system in the second most corrupt industry in the economy. Immigration is an industry, Immigration Agents on commission touring India and Asia, Training Schools on how to pass tests, VET accreditations for Immigrant education, lobbyists for multi-cultural grants. The whole immigration issue is in urgent need of reform. Politically correct concern for the allegedly disadvantaged is nonsense. ALP's "reforms" are bandages, designed to bolster electoral support.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Waiters from Italy, to work in Melbourne Italian Restaurants wanting "authenticity", pre-covid, were eligible for employer sponsored, skilled workers visas, ditto for chefs from mainland China, hindu priests for local temples. Skilled, for the purposes of immigration, is different from what the adjective appears to mean. Immigration is arguably the most corrupt sector of the economy. If anything is deserving of a Royal commission, it's immigration.

Most of our "skilled" immigration is far from skilled, some lobbyist just convinced a polly/public servant to put it on the list to keep wages down, avoid training under employed Australians and to keep the immigration ponzi scheme going.

Would quickly change if we had a truly independent body review monthly the list to ensure it matches the trades and quantities we really need and we put a 20% levy on wages paid to foreigners who arrive on that scheme with all funds to go to bolstering tafe access for Australian citizens

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Your first phrase is spot on but not the rest. Skilled visas were first introduced in the 1880s, German vintners to found the SA Wine industry. Historically, Australasia competed with the North Americas for British and European immigration, who would sail for 3 months, have to pay for passage and never come back when you could sail for a week, free and half your family were already there ? Sparsely used before post WW11 mass immigration, it's now the most misused system in the second most corrupt industry in the economy. Immigration is an industry, Immigration Agents on commission touring India and Asia, Training Schools on how to pass tests, VET accreditations for Immigrant education, lobbyists for multi-cultural grants. The whole immigration issue is in urgent need of reform. Politically correct concern for the allegedly disadvantaged is nonsense. ALP's "reforms" are bandages, designed to bolster electoral support.

Most? Do you have evidence that 'most' are far from skilled?

As for Italian waiters and chefs wanting 'authenticity', is there evidence of this? Or is it just the vibe that 'has to be from the old country'?

'Immigration is an industry', yep so what? The way it's portrayed here is some sort of conspiracy theory, EVERYTHING is an industry does not equate to 'immigration is used in bad faith for bad faith actors' FFS.

'Immigration is the most corrupt sector of the economy' - Wow, any other 'corrupt sectors' you wanna talk about? Next you'll bring up the old cliche 'whataboutism'

This is *n unbelievable.

Ogrob and Rob, I generally can agree with some of your viewpoints on these boards, but this is next level conspiracy theory.