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And 9th could knock us out :(

ahhh yes - of course.... that would be TRUE Richmond irony :D

haha, listen to all us cynical and damaged "old" supporters - even in our brightest light, we are still foreseeing the possible storms to come!
 

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A few questions - if Essendon are stripped of their points (which seems likely although who knows for sure), then the game between Essendon and Richmond at the MCG in the final round is a dead rubber?

Will Richmond need to play Essendon? Will the AFL give the four points to Richmond??

Thoughts people? Because if Essendon are stripped of their points, then win, lose or draw in the Essendon vs Richmond game in the final round.........the winners are Richmond cos the Bombers won't have their points.
 
A few questions - if Essendon are stripped of their points (which seems likely although who knows for sure), then the game between Essendon and Richmond at the MCG in the final round is a dead rubber?

Will Richmond need to play Essendon? Will the AFL give the four points to Richmond??

Thoughts people? Because if Essendon are stripped of their points, then win, lose or draw in the Essendon vs Richmond game in the final round.........the winners are Richmond cos the Bombers won't have their points.

I believe that Richmond will only get the points if they beat Essendon. That's what happened when the Storm lost their points a few years back. They still played all their games (and won many) but got no points.
 
I believe that Richmond will only get the points if they beat Essendon. That's what happened when the Storm lost their points a few years back. They still played all their games (and won many) but got no points.

but then thats silly isn't it? Bombers clearly are going to be stripped of points - well by the sounds of it so so the four points should be given to Richmond. Makes no sense at all for Richmond to not get the four points, or else its four points that will go to no one and that will look silly. Mind you though if they are going to do that then they will need to give all the clubs that the Bombers beat this season and those clubs the four points as well.

So I guess the game between Essendon and Richmond isn't a dead rubber at all. It does mean something.

However...............if Richmond lose against Essendon this week and the Pies beat North Melbourne. The Pies go into fifth spot, Richmond go to sixth. So the Pies would play North - week one Elimination Final and Richmond would play Port (I think, not sure?). I would rather play Port then North Melbourne, North a good side.

I wonder if Richmond know this little quirk, I assume they do and I assume they wont go out to lose the game against the Bombers, but really there are consequences for winning the game against the Bombers or losing it. I guess it all depends on who Richmond want to play week 1 of finals.
 
However...............if Richmond lose against Essendon this week and the Pies beat North Melbourne. The Pies go into fifth spot, Richmond go to sixth. So the Pies would play North - week one Elimination Final and Richmond would play Port (I think, not sure?). I would rather play Port then North Melbourne, North a good side.

I wonder if Richmond know this little quirk, I assume they do and I assume they wont go out to lose the game against the Bombers, but really there are consequences for winning the game against the Bombers or losing it. I guess it all depends on who Richmond want to play week 1 of finals.

If Pies beat North, North are out. If North beat the Pies, the Pies are virtually no chance to finish 5th. By the time this game kicks off, North will know whether that have a chance or not (if Carlton win, no one else can make 9th unless Brisbane beat Geelong by about 500 points :confused: )

At the start of the round there will still be 5 teams that are a mathematical chance of ninth (Carlton, North, Brisbane, WC and Adelaide. It's Carlton's to lose though. I hope they make it, I hope we play them and I hope we remind them of how undeserving they were to play finals.
 
I wonder if Richmond know this little quirk, I assume they do and I assume they wont go out to lose the game against the Bombers, but really there are consequences for winning the game against the Bombers or losing it. I guess it all depends on who Richmond want to play week 1 of finals.

Isn't it funny that we'd rather play Port or Essendon, two sides who'd made the finals on the back of winning a majority of their games (albeit, only one have legitimately!) - than North and Carlton, two sides with mediocre win/loss records!
 

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losing to Carlton has cost us a top four clash against Hawthorn. Instead we might have an elimination final against North

Or Carlton. If we were to lose to Carlton after they finished 9th in an elimination final I would most likely leave the country and possibly planet.
 
Nth may have taken over the mantle given they finished 9th in 2010 and 2011 and quite possibly may finish 10th this year - again just missing finals.

Ninth Melbourne has a better ring to it anyway....
 

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but then thats silly isn't it? Bombers clearly are going to be stripped of points - well by the sounds of it so so the four points should be given to Richmond. Makes no sense at all for Richmond to not get the four points, or else its four points that will go to no one and that will look silly. Mind you though if they are going to do that then they will need to give all the clubs that the Bombers beat this season and those clubs the four points as well.

So I guess the game between Essendon and Richmond isn't a dead rubber at all. It does mean something.

However...............if Richmond lose against Essendon this week and the Pies beat North Melbourne. The Pies go into fifth spot, Richmond go to sixth. So the Pies would play North - week one Elimination Final and Richmond would play Port (I think, not sure?). I would rather play Port then North Melbourne, North a good side.

I wonder if Richmond know this little quirk, I assume they do and I assume they wont go out to lose the game against the Bombers, but really there are consequences for winning the game against the Bombers or losing it. I guess it all depends on who Richmond want to play week 1 of finals.

We don't want the points. Win and play Carlton or lose and play Port. I think I'll take Port.
 
Using a Grant Thomasism, on any measure I firmly believe we are a better side than Carlton. I hope we play them in finals!

me too. We will have learned from the loss to them and they will have learned nothing from beating us. We put no defensive pressure on them after quarter time.
 
We don't want the points. Win and play Carlton or lose and play Port. I think I'll take Port.

So lose this match against the Bombers so that we go to sixth? Also it might not be Carlton, it could be the Roos and the Roos are better then Carlton
 

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