NLM vs Slatts

[AhSteveSteve27]

we need more players like slatts, less like Lovett-Murray. NLM started as a forward and should never be played anywhere else, I don't even know why he was moved in the first place. Plus NLM is 26 now, so you'd take the younger Slatts.

 

[Merv]

I told Chief it was a bad idea to reinstate font size

 

[Rabbit of Caerbannog]

I told Chief it was a bad idea to reinstate font size

Agreed.

 

[Spikey]

Those people have no respect

 

[B-Bomber]

With NLMs physical attributes you would think he could play very well on the small forwards. He has pace and strength to at least match all the small forwards in the comp plus a height advantage.

Plus, he also has attacking flair in abundance which Slattery lacks somewhat.

Problem is, he tries to use this attacking flair a bit too much at times and gets caught.

If NLM would play a bit more tightly on his opponent and using his ability to rebound a bit smarter I think we would have a winner. Not sure if he has that in him however which means Slatts is the man.

 

[The_Young_Gun]

NLM...

Brings much more to the table than slatts.

NLM can pretty much play everywhere. Up forward, down back, on the wing, RUCK!!!

As for Slattery... Appart from playing BP for the majoritiy of the season, I don't think he can do much more than be a small backman... In Which he isn't that good at anyway.

 

[Slattery_20]

Slatts was easily our most consistent backman this year. And managed to kick a few goals when freed up later in the year as well.

NLM's pretty poor when the ball hits the ground, gets turned inside out by small forwards. And he's not quick enoug to keep up with Tarrant or Fev. Which kinda limits his options
I actually didn't mind his game on Reiwoldt, just smashing him every time he got near it. I wonder what Knights thought about how that match up went.
Personally wouldn't mind seeing us use him as a scragger backman a la Harry O'Brien/Campbel Brown. Maybe not as a permanent thing but it's not like our backline is untouchable on form

 

[Doug Tassell]

Slattery.


I would not be suprised if NLM was traded in the next two years!

 

[Slattery_20]

Slattery.


I would not be suprised if NLM was traded in the next two years!

Would we get much for him?
I think he's a handy guy to have around
He does have that flexibility
Conceivably, if we do have a real run in 2 or 3 years from now, he might be one of those guys who is about 25th in line and can be used to fill holes or create mismatches.
He can play really well, forward and back
He is hard at the contest
He is not ever going to be a top-liner

 

[Smyth94]

NLM...

Brings much more to the table than slatts.

NLM can pretty much play everywhere. Up forward, down back, on the wing, RUCK!!!

As for Slattery... Appart from playing BP for the majoritiy of the season, I don't think he can do much more than be a small backman... In Which he isn't that good at anyway.

Over-rating much?

NLM is handy, but he lets himself down far too often.

NLM makes poor decisions, lets himself down with his execution and doesn't always do the team thing

Slatts might not have the best skills but he gives you 100% dedication all the time, and sacrifices his game for the team.

 

[GoDons]

I see these two competing for different positions to be honest.

I don't like Lovett-Murray in purely defensive roles. It's not his natural game, and he just doesn't match guys defensively in the air. His chopping of the arms and hanging on is almost a compulsion. He's not without defensive skill, but he gets exposed too often when asked to play a lock down role.

I think there's a spot for him running off half back. That's where he's most dangerous. He hits the ball with pace, he gets to good spots to receive and he's not bad at dropping back again afterwards. Of course, there's competition from guys like Courtenay Dempsey and David Myers, but it would be naive to expect 22 games from both of them, and I'm sure Myers will spend plenty of time in the midfield.

Slatts remains our only purely defensive small defender, so I can't see how he'd be out of the side. I'm not his biggest fan, I think his tackling can be clumsy, his skills can be poor and his pace can let him down, but we simply don't have anyone that can fill his role any better without robbing the midfield. I'd be interested to see Jarrod Atkinson get a chance, but he starts a long way behind Henry.

 

[HighettBomber]

I don't want either! If i had to choose it would be NLM, because his best is very good, Slattery is not capable of anything above ordinary. I'd be happy to be proven wrong, but I'm not hopeful that either will come good.

 

[daffo]

They play different positions.

Slatts has improved a lot this year where as NLM is still playing average footy, and has been for the last three or four years. NLM isn't in our best 25.

 

[Slattery_20]

The worm of popular opinion has turned on Slattery
Was our most consistent backman this year, and I don't think that can be denied

 

[The_Young_Gun]

Slatts got a bit of a spanking by milney round 22.

The only way I can describe him is that he isn't that bad of a player, but isn't that good either.

 

[Spikey]

The worm of popular opinion has turned on Slattery
Was our most consistent backman this year, and I don't think that can be denied

I stuck by him early on in the season when he was at fault for everything!



On a sidenote, the financial crisis is quite obviously Laycock's fault.

 

[NoIdea]

He is hard at the contest

I'm sorry? Which contest was he hard at - as a matter of fact, which contest did he make. Certainly none where he was required to run back into play and (god forbid) maybe take a hit [see the 1 minute 08 second mark). Too many times this year he seemed to just be resigned to the fact that his opponent was going to take the mark and didn't show a lot of interest in making them earn the kick.

It's been said many times before, and will be said many more times, he's not a backman - at least not a backman that you want to defend. In short, he's the Anthony Mundine (the St George version, not the shooting-off-my-trap boxing version) of Essendon - all the skills, good when things go his way but no defensive skills at all.

I agree with the comments that he's potentially useful to the club, but play him on the half forward line where he can use his run off half back if needed, and utilise his pace and flair to create scoring opportunities.

 

[SirJimi05]

NLM is not a defender therefore SLatts wins by default.

 

[TheDon35]

Slattery - strong, fit, gives everything he's got, couragouse...... But can't play.

NLM - Plenty of skill, ability to cut the lines and set up play.... But doesn't do it enough.

Hopefully neither are in next years side and we start to see some new young blood come through.

 

[SirJimi05]

NLM...

Brings much more to the table than slatts.

NLM can pretty much play everywhere. Up forward, down back, on the wing, RUCK!!!

As for Slattery... Appart from playing BP for the majoritiy of the season, I don't think he can do much more than be a small backman... In Which he isn't that good at anyway.

This is NLM vs Slatts not Ryder vs Slatts.

 

[Jex]

NLM is better, but played through injury for a lot of the last 2 years. Slatts started to develop more consistency as the year went on and his accountability is excellent.

To me, NLM is competing more with Nash, Dempsey or perhaps Myers for an attacking half back role. Slatts might be competing with Hocking or Hislop in playing a more accountable role.

 

[The_Young_Gun]

NLM is better, but played through injury for a lot of the last 2 years. Slatts started to develop more consistency as the year went on and his accountability is excellent.

To me, NLM is competing more with Nash, Dempsey or perhaps Myers for an attacking half back role. Slatts might be competing with Hocking or Hislop in playing a more accountable role.

A bit too excellent.

He needs to focus more on helping his team-mates next season, rather than been only 1 inch away from his opponent at all times, especially when the ball is in his radar but he would rather stick with his opponent.

I hope once he's done working on his core and fitness that he starts tagging those key midfielders again, possibly freeing up Welsh for any reason?

 

[Jex]

A bit too excellent.

He needs to focus more on helping his team-mates next season, rather than been only 1 inch away from his opponent at all times, especially when the ball is in his radar but he would rather stick with his opponent.

I hope once he's done working on his core and fitness that he starts tagging those key midfielders again, possibly freeing up Welsh for any reason?

I'd leave them where they are. Welsh is a better midfielder/tagger than Slatts because he wins more of the ball. Welsh the backmen is pretty average.

 

[Slattery_20]

I'm sorry? Which contest was he hard at - as a matter of fact, which contest did he make. Certainly none where he was required to run back into play and (god forbid) maybe take a hit [see the 1 minute 08 second mark). Too many times this year he seemed to just be resigned to the fact that his opponent was going to take the mark and didn't show a lot of interest in making them earn the kick.

It's been said many times before, and will be said many more times, he's not a backman - at least not a backman that you want to defend. In short, he's the Anthony Mundine (the St George version, not the shooting-off-my-trap boxing version) of Essendon - all the skills, good when things go his way but no defensive skills at all.

I agree with the comments that he's potentially useful to the club, but play him on the half forward line where he can use his run off half back if needed, and utilise his pace and flair to create scoring opportunities.

He was good at dumping Reevolt after the contest in the St K game... the only thing worth watching. And good at hitting Carr brothers.
He can, occasionally, play good defence
I don't know why he's so up and down, consistency's his biggest problem