Non Lions Discussion 2026

[martinson]

The way the game is being managed I can actually envision a day hopefully a long way in the future where I could go off the game altogether like I did with football/soccer. If the players started diving en masse that would be a straw too far for me.

I'm just about already there.

The Lions keep me engaged.

 

[Lions2Good]

Keays could have been our GOAT, but crazy fagan let him go

Don’t forget the Hinge

 

[Nathan Barley]

Umps having a shocker tonight

 

[snooplions]

Is it in the spirit of the game to deliberately handball into an opponents leg to get an out on the full and scoring a goal from it?

 

[morsie]

But that's been the case for the best part of 80 years. "Immigration" by definition is not going to include anyone who is interested in "Australian" rules football.

It hasn't stopped names like Silvagni, Jesalenko and Van der Haar from becoming synonymous with our native game.

Agreed but I don't think our Asian immigrants have much interest.The guys you mentioned are 40 years agur African immigrants are showing interest but that is about it.

 

[Elixuh]

Is it in the spirit of the game to deliberately handball into an opponents leg to get an out on the full and scoring a goal from it?

Whenever the ball has been on the boundary the Crom players have been just trying to handball into legs to get a lasso free or oof kick at goal.

It’s unbecoming and if intention the other team should just straight up get a free 2 points.

 

[briztoon]

Holy shit the afl are digging in the couch for loose change. What is going on with the league. The next rights deal must be going to be dogshit.

Been talk of this for a while.

 

[braddsey]

Whenever the ball has been on the boundary the Crom players have been just trying to handball into legs to get a lasso free or oof kick at goal.

It’s unbecoming and if intention the other team should just straight up get a free 2 points.

They should ping them with insufficient intent... it is still a rule.

 

[The Flying Belgian]

Is it in the spirit of the game to deliberately handball into an opponents leg to get an out on the full and scoring a goal from it?

Clever players have been attempting this for as long as I remember. No different than waiting for your opponent to gather the ball then jumping on them.

 

[Always a Lion]

Clever players have been attempting this for as long as I remember. No different than waiting for your opponent to gather the ball then jumping on them.

Understand what you're saying, except that the player gathering the ball has control/choice in their action on the ball. Having had the ball handballed down onto their foot means they've no control/choice. The handballer is the one who deliberately ensured the ball goes out of bounds... what other intent did they have? Who caused the ball to go of bounds? Definitely not in the spirit of the game.

 

[HereIGoAgain]

Effort doesnt mean much when, generally, man for man the Carlton players are slighter and physically weaker than any other team in the comp. When the heat was on tonight every point of contact left a Blues player sprawling or being brushed off in tackles.

And it is not necessarily a matter of youth and only partly the types of player they bring through the doors. Dragging yourself off the deck after getting smashed for the tenth time in a row leads to morale issues evident by the dropping of heads.

So first order of business is sack the strength and conditioning staff and get these guys hitting the weights. It will lift confidence in their bodies and inevitably have a positive effect on accumulative type injuries from these individual beltings each player is copping every game.

 

[Jivlain]

Confirms from an insider there are too many teams in the competition, just not the depth of talent around for 18-20 teams

I think what Ken is saying is a bit different - that given a choice between journeymen who can slot into a role if required (but probably aren't going to ever be stars) and green recruits (who might become anything) clubs have prioritised green recruits. Which means they're the only ones available to fill a slot. List sizes haven't completely recovered from the covid cuts.

The AFL I think prefers having the midseason draft - it creates more drama/headlines than a list clogger getting a game to cover an injury, but it's less flexible for a coach and list manager to keep journeymen available as needed. And the league wants lists to be smaller yet.

 

[Elixuh]

Clever players have been attempting this for as long as I remember. No different than waiting for your opponent to gather the ball then jumping on them.

It’s a bit different now with the lasso when all you need is for it to roll out not in the full. Crom players were trying to do it every time the ball was on the boundary. It’s a shit way to play.

Prior to the lasso you might see it once or twice a round at most.

 

[Grasshopper17]

Carlton are even worse in person than on TV. Which doesn't say much for Adelaide either to be fair.

Apologies to everyone who was near me in the crowd. I was the bloke absolutely giving it to Harry McKay

10

Harry Mckay

Age

28

Ht

200cm

Wt

106kg

Pos.

Fwd

Career

Season

Last 5

D

9.9

3star

K

7.5

3star

HB

2.4

2star

M

5.5

5star

T

1.6

4star

G

1.4

5star

D

6.6

1star

K

4.6

2star

HB

2.0

1star

M

3.6

4star

T

1.4

2star

G

1.4

5star

D

8.8

3star

K

6.8

3star

HB

2.0

2star

M

4.4

4star

T

0.8

3star

G

2.0

5star

all night. T!ts on a bull, just like his brother. You could only laugh by the end.

 

[Tom14]

Umps having a shocker tonight

Some lions fans want to willingly sign up to play Crom or port in gather round. Have they seen the home town cooking the umps serve up for the crows???

 

[Kernel Kurtz]

Is it in the spirit of the game to deliberately handball into an opponents leg to get an out on the full and scoring a goal from it?

Yes and it’s highly intelligent
Going by Kane

 

[Tom14]

Qld gov won’t bid, it’s not nrl.

Victoria is bankrupt.

WA will bid every year using money from bhp.

Wildcard round brought to you by Woodside Petroleum here we come!

 

[Kernel Kurtz]

Some lions fans want to willingly sign up to play Crom or port in gather round. Have they seen the home town cooking the umps serve up for the crows???

Non calls on throws and holds were terrible and game changers.
Crippa was blatantly held back by a grab from one of the crows players
Nothing.
Tex another blatant throw, goal to the crows
Rules are rules and just because it was raining or had been don’t change the rules.
We aren’t talking about a kick off the side of a wet boot either, that non call from the umps I could handle.
On another note, gees Keays is great at Adelaide
I mean we don’t have to put up with that prancing pony at the Gabba.lol
Hinge I like.

 

[braddsey]

Non calls on throws and holds were terrible and game changers.
Crippa was blatantly held back by a grab from one of the crows players
Nothing.
Tex another blatant throw, goal to the crows
Rules are rules and just because it was raining or had been don’t change the rules.
We aren’t talking about a kick off the side of a wet boot either, that non call from the umps I could handle.
On another note, gees Keays is great at Adelaide
I mean we don’t have to put up with that prancing pony at the Gabba.lol
Hinge I like.

 

[MSB ROYS]

He should be suspended for a week for bringing the game into disrepute IMO.

 

[Nathan Barley]

He should be suspended for a week for bringing the game into disrepute IMO.

The umpire?

 

[The Flying Belgian]

It’s a bit different now with the lasso when all you need is for it to roll out not in the full. Crom players were trying to do it every time the ball was on the boundary. It’s a shit way to play.

Prior to the lasso you might see it once or twice a round at most.

I thought you'd love a loophole. The reality is it rarely comes off and the upside is the ball sometimes stays in when it would normally be taken OOB. I do agree with the lasso rule it brings it into play a bit more. But with deliberate OOB also being tightened in recent years, the player with the ball runs the risk of getting penalised more. Who'd have thought there would be unintended consequences from poorly implemented rule changes...

There's so many other examples of players pushing the boundaries of the rules or blatantly exploiting the umpires unwillingness to enforce the rules...

• Players dragging the ball under their opponents to draw a HTB free
• Players not letting the ball come out when a player is tackled to draw a HTB free
• Players letting the ball "spill" out when tackled
• Forwards blocking 50 metres off the ball to allow teammates to lead
• Player using their hands when climbing for a mark

The reality is players and coaches will exploit the rules to their benefit. All this "spirit of the game" stuff is BS and always has been.

 

[Elixuh]

I thought you'd love a loophole. The reality is it rarely comes off and the upside is the ball sometimes stays in when it would normally be taken OOB. I do agree with the lasso rule it brings it into play a bit more. But with deliberate OOB also being tightened in recent years, the player with the ball runs the risk of getting penalised more. Who'd have thought there would be unintended consequences from poorly implemented rule changes...

There's so many other examples of players pushing the boundaries of the rules or blatantly exploiting the umpires unwillingness to enforce the rules...

• Players dragging the ball under their opponents to draw a HTB free
• Players not letting the ball come out when a player is tackled to draw a HTB free
• Players letting the ball "spill" out when tackled
• Forwards blocking 50 metres off the ball to allow teammates to lead
• Player using their hands when climbing for a mark

The reality is players and coaches will exploit the rules to their benefit. All this "spirit of the game" stuff is BS and always has been.

I only enjoy loopholes which the lions can exclusively rort, to st Kilda’s detriment.

 

[MSB ROYS]

The umpire?

Being serious, it's hard to umpire our game already and one needs to be 100% sure before paying a free. At least when I umpired this was my mantra. This throw happens so quickly, it's easy to not be sure, so players get away with blatant cheating.

 

[KissKiss]

I thought you'd love a loophole. The reality is it rarely comes off and the upside is the ball sometimes stays in when it would normally be taken OOB. I do agree with the lasso rule it brings it into play a bit more. But with deliberate OOB also being tightened in recent years, the player with the ball runs the risk of getting penalised more. Who'd have thought there would be unintended consequences from poorly implemented rule changes...

There's so many other examples of players pushing the boundaries of the rules or blatantly exploiting the umpires unwillingness to enforce the rules...

• Players dragging the ball under their opponents to draw a HTB free
• Players not letting the ball come out when a player is tackled to draw a HTB free
• Players letting the ball "spill" out when tackled
• Forwards blocking 50 metres off the ball to allow teammates to lead
• Player using their hands when climbing for a mark

The reality is players and coaches will exploit the rules to their benefit. All this "spirit of the game" stuff is BS and always has been.

I think one of the worst things with the lasso rule at the moment is it can go up for an arc review. Especially over minor touches off the foot.

I think the problem is these minor fumbles off a leg wouldnt be a lasso in how the SANFL has assessed it. Would have been much simpler if we had just adapted those rules rather than coming up with a new poorly thought through variation