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Originally posted by moomba
All out for 36 against the Sri Lankans. Game over in the fifth over.

Oh dear.

Moomba

WTF????

did they lose 10 wickets in 5 overs or did sri lanka take 5 overs to get 36?
 

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Canada 36 of 18 (could have been worse - they were 6/12)
SL 1/37 off 4.4

SL won the toss and bowled.
 
Originally posted by K9-54
Canada 36 of 18 (could have been worse - they were 6/12)
SL 1/37 off 4.4

SL won the toss and bowled.

Sri Lanka won the toss and bowled first against Bangladesh as well, possibly to increase their net run rate which could be important when it comes to working out who makes the super six stage. The only negative is that the Sri Lankan batsman haven't really had any batting as yet in the tournament apart from the openers.
 
Originally posted by ScouseCat
The only negative is that the Sri Lankan batsman haven't really had any batting as yet in the tournament apart from the openers.

Something which I hope bites them in the arse when they play the Windies. We now need the Windies to beat SL to keep SAF out.
 
Originally posted by EagleBlue
Something which I hope bites them in the arse when they play the Windies. We now need the Windies to beat SL to keep SAF out.

yes. that seems to be my main interest for the 1st round, keeping seth efrica out. not that they could match us anyway. west indies could be tough. if only they had two decent openers, they'd have a fairly strong team.
 
Originally posted by ScouseCat
Sri Lanka won the toss and bowled first against Bangladesh as well, possibly to increase their net run rate which could be important when it comes to working out who makes the super six stage. The only negative is that the Sri Lankan batsman haven't really had any batting as yet in the tournament apart from the openers.
I reckon batting first and mounting a huge total would do more for the old net run rate.
 
Originally posted by DaveW
I reckon batting first and mounting a huge total would do more for the old net run rate.

doubt it.

Canada 36 off 18 overs
Sri Lanka 37 off 4.4 overs

NRR = (37/4.667) - (36/50) = 7.21 for the game

go the other way with an equally extreme example:

Australia 400 off 50 overs
Holland 40 off 21.3 overs

NRR = (400/50) - (40/50) = 7.20 for the game

seems pretty tough to pull the second scenario off. then again, dismissing a team for 36 as sri lanka did would be damn hard too.
 
Originally posted by red+black
doubt it.

Canada 36 off 18 overs
Sri Lanka 37 off 4.4 overs

NRR = (37/4.667) - (36/50) = 7.21 for the game

go the other way with an equally extreme example:

Australia 400 off 50 overs
Holland 40 off 21.3 overs

NRR = (400/50) - (40/50) = 7.20 for the game

seems pretty tough to pull the second scenario off. then again, dismissing a team for 36 as sri lanka did would be damn hard too.


Yeah, for that game, the NRR would be more or less equal, but for the overall NRR, batting first is a lot better because you bat more overs, hence it lifts the average up.
 

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Originally posted by JUBJUB
Foxtel are scheduled to show a full replay of the game between 9am and 4pm tomorrow.They could show the game in full 4 times.

Mate, the full replay was on the Channel 7 News last night. ;)
 
Originally posted by EagleBlue
Something which I hope bites them in the arse when they play the Windies. We now need the Windies to beat SL to keep SAF out.

That scenario went out the window with the West Indies and Bangladesh match being rained out. Because they shared the points it's brought South Africa back in contention.
South Africa now need to win their last three matches - against Bangladesh, Canada and Sri Lanka - to qualify for the next stage of the torney.
As the matches against Bangladesh and canada should be shoe ins, even for the Boers, it is the match against Sri Lanka that is crucial to their hopes now.
It's a vexed question - cheer for Sri Lanka or cheer for the South Africans and hope they fall on their sword in the super sixes.
I think if SA are to win they are going to have to do more than just use Steve WAugh's 'no regrets' quote as inspiration to get to the final. They will need to follow a fairly similar path to the Aussies in 99. Lightning doesn't strike twice.
 
of course if rain intervenes in a South Africa game, then the Proteas will be back in trouble.

even if they qualify, they will take only points points through for beating those teams that didn't qualify, whereas a team such as Australia will probably take through 12 points.
 
Originally posted by red+black
doubt it.

Canada 36 off 18 overs
Sri Lanka 37 off 4.4 overs

NRR = (37/4.667) - (36/50) = 7.21 for the game

go the other way with an equally extreme example:

Australia 400 off 50 overs
Holland 40 off 21.3 overs

NRR = (400/50) - (40/50) = 7.20 for the game

seems pretty tough to pull the second scenario off. then again, dismissing a team for 36 as sri lanka did would be damn hard too.
Well that would make sense if a tournament consisted of only one match. You have to consider how it affects the overall net run rate. 400 runs is going to carry a lot more weight than 37.

Suppose, in other matches (and there are a lot of other matches) you've scored say (and these are obviously just random figures)... 1000/200 for and 800/250 against.

1000/200 - 800/250 = 1.8

add the first scores, 37/4.4 v 36/50

1036/204.4 - 836/300 = 2.27

Compare that to making 325 first, then rolling the opposition for 100.

i.e. add 325/50 v 100/50

1325/250 - 900/300 = 2.3

And the more other matches that figure in the net run rate, the more difference a high scoring match would make relative to a low scoring one.
 
Originally posted by DaveW
And the more other matches that figure in the net run rate, the more difference a high scoring match would make relative to a low scoring one.

That's correct.

At the moment, Sri Lanka would have a very high net run rate after winning 2 games by bowling out the opposition cheaply and knocking off the runs in a handful of overs. However, once they face South Africa and the West Indies, the net run rate will drop back assuming the games are closer.
 
I liked the fact that Vaas got 3 and Murali only 1 cause I backed Vaas to be top wicket taker before the match at 30/1.

Can someone tell me if SL plays South Africa or the Windies first? If they play SA first and win they might well lose to the Windies to keep SA out of the Super 6. We did it to NZ last world cup.
 

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Originally posted by Slax
I liked the fact that Vaas got 3 and Murali only 1 cause I backed Vaas to be top wicket taker before the match at 30/1.

Can someone tell me if SL plays South Africa or the Windies first? If they play SA first and win they might well lose to the Windies to keep SA out of the Super 6. We did it to NZ last world cup.
They play the West Indies first.

Your logic is ridiculous - why would Sri Lanka want to keep South Africa out and lose to the West Indies to keep the Windies in? They'd carry less points through to the super six. Have a think about it. Australia did not throw any matches last world cup.
 
Sri Lanka made a mockery of Canada last night. Blink and you would have missed it. This really highlights the difference in test playing nations and those who qualified for the World Cup.

Vaas is having an amazing World Cup - his true test will be if he can repeat his performance against the West Indies and South Africa.
 
Originally posted by GoEagles
Vaas is having an amazing World Cup - his true test will be if he can repeat his performance against the West Indies and South Africa.

Chaminda Vaas is a quality cricketer who has done extremely well for Sri Lanka despite the wickets he plays on back home being more suited to spin for the likes of Muralitharan, Arnold, De Silva and Jayasuriya. It is great to see him enjoying some success on the big stage... the hat-trick will be remembered despite it being against a weak Bangladesh team.
 
Originally posted by Dogwatcher
That scenario went out the window with the West Indies and Bangladesh match being rained out. Because they shared the points it's brought South Africa back in contention.
South Africa now need to win their last three matches - against Bangladesh, Canada and Sri Lanka - to qualify for the next stage of the torney.
As the matches against Bangladesh and canada should be shoe ins, even for the Boers, it is the match against Sri Lanka that is crucial to their hopes now.
It's a vexed question - cheer for Sri Lanka or cheer for the South Africans and hope they fall on their sword in the super sixes.
I think if SA are to win they are going to have to do more than just use Steve WAugh's 'no regrets' quote as inspiration to get to the final. They will need to follow a fairly similar path to the Aussies in 99. Lightning doesn't strike twice.

wrong !!!! (assuming NZ dont go to Kenya)

If WI beat SL, WI will go to 18pts. SL 16pts. SAF 16pts. NZ 16pts, will come down to R/R as those 3 teams will have equal records (1-1) against each other. Obviously SAF will have to beat SL and probably comfortably too looking at SL R/R

If SL beat WI SL 20pts, NZ and SAF 16pts, WI 14pts.
 

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