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Again, using the article YOU provided the link on "individual or corporate level sportswashing is used to cover up and direct away attention from said person's or company's vices, crimes, or scandals"

Joe Lewis' stolen land in Patagonia from 2019 to now is not well known partially because he has the Argentinian govt. in his pocket and that is largely due to the notoriety that comes with him owning golf courses and Tottenham Hotspur. Regardless of if he is doing a fantastic job as owner on the field, the facts remain that he is a PL owning billionaire with famous friends and golf courses. And because of that he can get away with what he is doing over there.

If the diversion away from said person's vices, crimes, or scandals isn't sportswashing whatever that is Joe Lewis is doing it. I'm only going off the definition in the link you sent as I wasn't sure if the term was only for governments and could be used for what Lewis is doing.

ENIC first purchased shares in Spurs back in 2001. Became majority shareholder in 2007. It had nothing to do with deflection attention away from what he was doing and continues to do, that's abundantly obvious.

The same article does not list Joe Lewis as involved in sports washing, and for good reason. He'd be the worst sports washer in the world if that actually was his intention.
 
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football needs less owners with unlimited spending, not more. Football needs to encourage sustainability not encourage recklessness.

Sadly football isn't going back to pre-Premier League days. It is what it is now.

I'm sure the FA would love more investment in clubs to make their product even more valuable. It's all about the £££s.
 
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Well done boys. Good process, carry on
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ENIC first purchased shares in Spurs back in 2001. Became majority shareholder in 2007. It had nothing to do with deflection attention away from what he was doing and continues to do, that's abundantly obvious.

The same article does not list Joe Lewis as involved in sports washing, and for good reason. He'd be the worst sports washer in the world if that actually was his intention.
Apart from the tax evasion and similar land grabbing in Bulgaria at the time....

Unfortunately if there was a trophy for sportswashing and diverting away from his grubby antics unlike his enic reign at spurs he'd win a trophy for it. He is the best in the business for diversion through his sports and entertainment ventures
 

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jd2010 I just discovered that Tavistock holdings owns Australian Agriculture Company, one of our clients. Learn something new every day, had no idea that was who ultimately owned them and only discovered due to this conversation.
There you go. Had no idea they had stakes in anything in Australia
 
Someone needs to do a table of doggiest owners to least doggiest owners in the PL.
The very doggiest surely


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Maybe if smokin Joe re-invests some of his Argentinian bloody money we could have a second striker on our books ;)
you really can’t hack it can you than en masse the football world has denounced Newcastle and similar ilk.

Because you’ve deluded yourself into thinking such ownership is acceptable because you’re desperate to see us win in a footballing environment increasingly designed to ensure we don’t.
 

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you really can’t hack it can you than en masse the football world has denounced Newcastle and similar ilk.

Because you’ve deluded yourself into thinking such ownership is acceptable because you’re desperate to see us win in a footballing environment increasingly designed to ensure we don’t.
Wrong. My football club is already owned by a despicable human but one who also doesn't value sporting achievements.

Head in the sand thinking otherwise. Just because he doesn't spend his tainted money on us doesn't make our owners any better
 
Wrong. My football club is already owned by a despicable human but one who also doesn't value sporting achievements.

Head in the sand thinking otherwise. Just because he doesn't spend his tainted money on us doesn't make our owners any better
Your posting on this has been sad and pathetic. All denouncing Newcastle and ‘what about this’ so desperate to make it about your pet peeve.

You’d have tenuous point if 1. Fans liked Lewis but he’s like Glazers and Kroenke. Barely seen and doesn’t care, so all and sundry don’t really like him. 2. We’re not being sportswashed by a sovereign nation (save your lame definition of sportswashing too btw).

Vastly different, and doesn’t change that we’re being run the right way, Newcastle now aren’t or that Dan KP’s article wasn’t accurate. Which brings us back to you not being able to hack it that someone (everyone) is calling out a spending model likely to be implemented by Newcastle that you’re open to us being run similarly, which is just wrong. You can’t hack it that your own fellow fans have responded to a poll negatively on this topic.

You are in the small minority that doesn’t see this as morally wrong conduct.
 
Dec 22, 2009
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Dec 22, 2009
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Trigger warning please. The move was initiated by guess who :laughv1:

It certainly isn't appropriate for an owner of a club to use their position in a foreign state / government to source commercial revenue for their own club. It's effectively state funding and most clubs will find it difficult to compete with clubs who have backing from sovereign wealth funds / states etc.


It's the equivalent of Scomo buying the Sharks and proceeding to have AusPost sponsor it for 50 million a year while he is PM. It just wouldn't be allowed by the league and definitely not by the people of Australia although there's no doubt the Sharks fans would absolutely love it if it somehow was allowed.


IMO commercial revenue should be banned from any government sources linked to the ownership of clubs.
 
This is a very serious matter because the relegation fight just won't be fair if the Saudis come in and spend 200 million in January.
But not against the rules of the competition.
 
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