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"Why the blues were the real winners V the tigers"
Frustrating and disappointing to lose against the Tiges last Thursday. Watched a replay of the game a few times, and realise now that we do in fact have a lot more positives to take out of the game than the Tiges. It was an interesting game with huge contrasts.

Reason 1: 47% of the Tiges goals were kicked by players with an average age of 31 !

Hardly an investment in the future. The Tiges played 5, 30 year old, or older players in that lineup. The Blues played none in that age group, and instead invested gametime into younger players. This is the better approach.

Reason 2: Our opposition needed to employ extreme ultra-flooding

It was an effective tactic by Terry on the night. It forced us to hold possession of the ball longer before entering the forwardline, and often our young players made skill errors as a consequence, resulting in a turnover. While flooding worked, it’s a loser tactic, and I am so glad Ratten doesn’t go down that path.

Reason 3: Glimpses of future brilliance and potential e.g. 1st and 2nd quarter

When the young Blues got their act together, the glimpses of brilliance shone through in a few passages. e.g. 2nd quarter. Watching the game again, it is clear that not only are our young players coming to terms with a new style of gameplan, but these players are still learning to anticipate their team-mates actions. Much of our list has played way less than 50 games. Game time is needed. There are no shortcuts. But there is potential there, massive potential.

Reason 4: Judd’s leadership

Early days, but I’m impressed with his attitude. Seems to be focussing on the importance of his role as an on-field leader a lot more than he did at West Coast, almost certainly because he realises that he is effectively a mentor to a large group of very young players. Thought his article in The Age was a great demonstration that not only do we have the best player in the AFL, but we have an intelligent, insightful leader with a success mindset. By contrast mention of the Tiges captains name, just brings laughter for many reasons. Again, no future.

Reason 5: Way below full strength

Judd and Stevens are way below full fitness, Walker out, Fisher out, Kruezer out, Hampson out. Plus a lots of talented young players will also be pushing hard for selection. By contrast the Tiges were at 100% capacity.
 

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Parrot's reasons are flawed at best.

Tigers at full strength? Coughlan did not play. Also, if shes going to include a bunch of spuds who havent played, then we can go along the path of including Cotchin, Conners, Graham, Edwards who were underdone. Riewoldt and Morton were also missing from our best 22.

Also, no mention of our younger kids who did dominate the game, which is certainley investing for the future. Jake King, Will Thursfield, Jay Schulz, Cleve Hughes, Nathan Foley, Richard Tambling, Brett Deledio. They all had solid games, and i know im missing people.

The Tigers having senior players in their lineup is a smart tactic to protect the younger players, it will result in slower development, but will be much safer, especially as our younger key position players arent stunted in their growth much like Carlton's will be (You only have to look at Josh Kennedy for proof that their development program is flawed).

Poor dillusioned Parrot, the poor bird has absolutley nothing left. :p:thumbsu:
 
Expected return date to the Richmond board: Late November 2008 after the Blues have once again picked up 2 of the top 5 kids in the National draft.
 
Parrot who? look, Every body has at least one thing before they lose,...................a chance. Unfortunately for Carlton this didn't apply.Will be, Unfortunate, but same applies next week.It needed to be said.
 
I think they only get the 2nd round priority this time, not the first. They'll get the 1st round priority again the next year.

And:

Reason 1: Big deal. All those players have a few years left and you're supposed to play your best team. It's round one, so it would be idiotic to be just playing the kids even if they're not in your best 22. Unless you were tanking already.

Reason 2: It wasn't ultra-flooding. We flooded a few times, but our best play came when we were one on one.

Reason 3: The Tiger youngsters looked every bit as good as the Carlton youngsters.

Reason 4: Judd is a great player but he wasn't very effective after half time. Won't be fully healthy until mid-year at best.

Reason 5: We were missing just as much quality as they were.

If Carlton supporters had being saying all this before the game, it might be acceptable. As it is, they are just making excuses and they are not very good ones.
 
What a load of bollocks.

If Ratten is caught making lame excuses like Parrot's at the end of the season, he wont see out his contract. These petty excuses wont be acceptable then and therefore are not acceptable now.

Go Tigers!
 
parrott is so deluded bor bird must be in so much pain took 4 days to gather enough courage to turn on his/her computer on again.

talked about our over 30 players all summer-- richo,brown,bowden,johnston, all will be there fo another 3 years exept kane johnston.

flooding-- parrott keeps saying how good rattens gameplanis and how terrible wallace is as a coach. how wrong he was totally outcoached mr.0% all game

major outs in the game--- keeps mentioning hampson 3 games i think
kruezer 0 games, walker the most overrated player on the blues list apart from gibbs, fisher i will agree with that one, a.ohalphin hasnt played or done anything yet.Ackland even the carlton supporters think he should be dropped from the list.

underdone players-- judd,setanta,stevens
judd was supposed to be running record times around princess park by himself, stevens has become the next lance witnall looks fatter than i am,
setanta has ross river fever yet there isnt enough depth to cover a player that has lost 10kg in 2 weeks.

interesting to note some of parrotts previose qutes where he/she keeps reminding everyone about the depth the carlton football club has & how off the scales all their young players are.


midfeild-- apart from 15-20 minutes of the game the richmond midfield totally dominated the game and the only players in the carlton mids to even offer any ressistance was judd, murph,simpson


fev was so good that he would kick 8+ on will thusfield ?
carlton would win by 60-80 points ?


looks like we wont see parrott for another 5 months.
 
We were missing our most effective young hard midfielder(Polo), our most experienced strong midfielder(Coughlan), our most exciting young wing/forward pocket(Edwards) and a potential gun half forward/ half back(Connors). Lucky for Carlton they were missing :o
 
I think they only get the 2nd round priority this time, not the first. They'll get the 1st round priority again the next year.
Actually the way I understand it because they won 4 games last year they can win 4 again this year and would qualify for picks 1 & 2 unless we also ended up in that position. Poor Melbourne they could end up with 2 wins and end up with pick 2 just like us.
 

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Hi parrot. I see your on right now. Good to see you have'nt dropped off your perch after the reality check on Thursday. I must I'm disappointed say that after several days to come up with something decent in the way of an excuse for the result or even an admission that maybe you have overstated a few things the best you can spew out is the pathetic post listed above. Your side was beaten by a better team that had some good kids on show, being lead by a good group of experienced senior players. Carlton's trouble was that once Judd and one or two others ran out of steam after carrying your mob for a half you had no one else to stand up. Where was this enormous depth that was going to rip us apart? You were missing one reasonable player in Fisher. Walker does'nt add much and Hampson would have been no match for Simmo anyway. You might want to move on to the Melbourne board for a few weeks where your club might compare favorably ( at least until they beat you as well). Poor Judd. The reality of it all must be hitting home now.
 
I used to like reading Parrot's posts because i'd worked out that they were actually tongue in cheek.

Now i'm not so sure!

If he really believes the stuff he's posting, then the guy has serious mental problems!
 
What sort of stat is 47% of the Tiges goals were kicked by players with an average age of 31? Unless I'm misinterpreting wht parrot was trying to say, could you not just take the 8 goals that were scored by the oldest players?
 
Actually the way I understand it because they won 4 games last year they can win 4 again this year and would qualify for picks 1 & 2 unless we also ended up in that position. Poor Melbourne they could end up with 2 wins and end up with pick 2 just like us.
It's worse than that. Carlton and Richmond could conceivably win 4 games each, the Dees could win zero games and it would go something like this:

1. Carlton/Richmond (depending on percentage)
2. Carlton/Richmond
3. Melbourne
4. Carlton/Richmond
5. Carlton/Richmond

19. Melbourne
20. Melbourne

Melbourne could not win a game and end up with only Pick 3. Surely this would be the end of the priority pick system if it happened.

Obviously both Carlton and Richmond supporters would be hoping we are not in a position for this to happen.
 

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Triple post of same content.

Ban plz Khan. ;)
I destroyed the evidence. ;)

I've had a few major slow downs on BigFooty the last couple of days, usually resulting in a 'could not find page' message. I subscribe to the press submit multiple times theory to overcome frustration.
 
It's worse than that. Carlton and Richmond could conceivably win 4 games each, the Dees could win zero games and it would go something like this:

1. Carlton/Richmond (depending on percentage)
2. Carlton/Richmond
3. Melbourne
4. Carlton/Richmond
5. Carlton/Richmond

19. Melbourne
20. Melbourne

Melbourne could not win a game and end up with only Pick 3. Surely this would be the end of the priority pick system if it happened.

Obviously both Carlton and Richmond supporters would be hoping we are not in a position for this to happen.
That would be extremely average for Melbourne. They look like they need the priority more than anyone else at the moment.
 
Seriously you can't reason with Carlton supporters on here. I dont understand...most carlton supporters i know in real life are reasonable and knowledgable about the state of their playing list with respect to other playing lists.

Carlton supporters on here actually use the fact that we were more experienced, fitter and better coached as an excuse for losing. I would have thought that just says we are a better team and were always bound to win. But you would never have known before the match...I dont think a single carlton supporter was tipping a close game, let alone a win to us. Yet they come on here, after copping a pretty comprehensive loss, and tell us there were factors which meant they were going to lose all along. YOU CAN'T HAVE IT BOTH WAYS YOU TOOLHEADS! Either you talk your team up before the game and cop the consequences or you go in with measured expectations and then, and only then, can you bring up the excuses.
 
does anyone else believe that whilst parrot was away over Easter a poster I have not seen for quite some time was on line ... goes by the name of peacock

could be way off base here but parrots away and peacocks on big footy ... both bird names ... scribbling not dissimilar .... conspiracy theory anyone!:cool:
 

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