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His three year contract signed with the Dockers at the end of 2004 has now expired and the Dockers have told him to accept a major pay cut or look elsewhere, with emphasis on the latter.

Could/should he be the one we chase with our No.1 Pick in the Pre-season Draft?
 
26 years old, is bordering on overweight and had a very ordinary season...orignally from WA...

Pass and hopefully a much more 'attractive', younger player bobs up before the PSD....
 
definantly look at him IMO.

Ball winning machine, and would bode well with cogs when he gets back and also would hit our forwards up no problems at all....

Big Fan of Paul and we would be stupid not to look at him.
 
Agree with Nugget.
How could you not look at him? He would take the heat off the likes of Coughlan, Foley and co. in the middle of the park.
Weight issues are definetly a problem but I'm not completely filled in regarding them. Have also read he may have a dodgy back but again, not completely filled in.
Pick #1 PSD - you give me someone better to take
 

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Would hope someone a bit better was available, but Hasleby would be a reasonable and possibly good get - depending on how much he could improve along the same lines Simmonds and Polak have after coming to us.

I don't think he's by any means a great player ATM, but you can't ignore a bloke who can amass 30-40 possessions a game at his best, plus there wouldn't be too many midfielders out there who could claim they laid 16 tackles in one match. Much fitter than he is now and mentally switched on, he could be handy...the desire would have to be there though.
 
Would definately look at him only in the PSD. I wouldnt want to trade for him. Very rarely do you get much talent coming through to the PSD, so if he wasn't traded elsewhere and entered the PSD (and if he didnt put too high a price on his head) I think we should definately pick him up.
 
Agree......As our PSD pick only would i chase him.

I dont think we should be tradeing for him.
I think our Drafting this year should be 4 in the National and one in the Pre-season.

I personally am hopeing for:
#2 = Cotchin
#18 = Rance/Collier
#19 = Ruckman
#35 = Allistair Neville

#1 PSD = Paul Haselby


Our list in young so i dont think drastic cleaning out of the playing group should be on the agenda.

Just get rid of the weeds that are in the club and are not worth taking forward.
 
nugget_12 said:
I personally am hopeing for:
#2 = Cotchin
#18 = Rance/Collier
#19 = Ruckman
#35 = Allistair Neville

#1 PSD = Paul Haselby
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Where's the rest of our selections?!?! We better take more than 4 picks at the draft.

The way l see it, Hasleby represents much more value than Hyde, Howat, White, Hartigan. Would ditch anyone of these off our list to make room for him.
 
Wally Matera said:
Where's the rest of our selections?!?! We better take more than 4 picks at the draft.

The way l see it, Hasleby represents much more value than Hyde, Howat, White, Hartigan. Would ditch anyone of these off our list to make room for him.
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I know we have more selections, Like i said just looking through our list the majority will be in thier 3rd or 4th year next year and way to early to get rid of.

There will most likely be more selctions but thats all im hopeing for.
i dont think we need to clean out the club just yet because we will only be putting ourselves further behind in developement.

I agree Haselby does have much more value than the players you have mentioned. but also those players besides maybe Brent Hartigan aren't destroyed by injury.

Thats just the way i see it though.
 
nugget_12 said:
I know we have more selections, Like i said just looking through our list the majority will be in thier 3rd or 4th year next year and way to early to get rid of.

There will most likely be more selctions but thats all im hopeing for.
i dont think we need to clean out the club just yet because we will only be putting ourselves further behind in developement.

I agree Haselby does have much more value than the players you have mentioned. but also those players besides maybe Brent Hartigan aren't destroyed by injury.

Thats just the way i see it though.
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The way l see it is we finished last and our list does need turning over a bit more than people think. Yes, if we decide to hang onto a couple of average players who have developed a bit we could protect some of young players. But the more we play our kids, the quicker they'll learn.

I hate seeing blokes like Hyde and Howat get games when l know they arent top draw players. I understand we'll get belted if we field an under 18's side, but... we're getting belted anyway.
 
I think he is good, just a bit slow. He'd get a game that's for sure.

We should deal with Freo, make them accept a player or pick with the risk of losing him for nothing. Then repeat the process with another club.

Could be the ideal way to get rid of someone we don't need or really want in the process. We wont be able to just rip Freo off, but a 'project' player that they can spin to their members as a fair trade might just work.
 

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If he leaves it will be because he wants more money, personally i dont think hes worth it. The reason Freo arent a great side is because they have a slow midfield. We are starting to look a better side as we add speed to ours, adding Coughlan and Haselby to a midfield with Tuck and Johnson simply couldnt happen (maybe only room for 2 of them as it is). We may as well trade Cogs back home for him and keep pick 1 in the psd if we were that keen to get him. He wont be cheap money wise and im glad we missed out when we chased him hard a few years ago.
 
banzai said:
Who's spot would you give him in the midfield and where would it leave Coughlan's career? Can only have a few one paced midfielders these days.
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Personally I think Coughlan's career is kaput and I would be happy to flog him off to WC for that Morton kid that someone was talking about. I'd even contemplate a straight swap like you said.

Even if that trade with WC didn't eventuate (because it could be just another BigFooty hoax) I would rather take the risk on an unfit Haselby than a recovering Coughlan. I feel sorry for the guy, but 2 knees is a big risk and if someone else wants him then off he goes.
 
this would be a beautiful fit , when fit , he is an A grade midfielder, alongside axel and the No 2 pick...it would be a tremendous springboard. I wouldnt be expecting too much from Cogs following an extended period out of the game with 2 knees albeit the second op was pretty simple one I understand

Go for it:thumbsu:
 
Wally Matera said:
If he was coming free in the PSD... rock on! Definately, doubt you wouldnt get a better option at pick 1.

26 is the age bracket that we're crying out for, particularly in the midfield. Buy the prick a treadmill and tell him tell get his arse into gear.
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Love your work :thumbsu:

BTW he is very very strong overhead, and could kick lots of goals when resting.
 

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We wouldn't be getting him for "free" as alot of you think.

Haselby is looking for a 3 year 450k per year deal from the Dockers. I would say that Richmond would still have to come to pretty handsome deal with him to secure his services. I think to give him a 3 year deal would be stupid, he has little trade bait, has had injury and weight problems, and he is a Western Australian.

Surely 1 of Meeson, Charman, Wood, Moran, etc. will go through to the PSD this year and with Coughlan coming back, and Simmonds not looking to be ready by round 1, we need ruckman more then we do midfielders at this stage
 
Wouldn't mind him at all actually. But do have a concern that our team is becoming Fremantle.
 
GhostofJimJess said:
His three year contract signed with the Dockers at the end of 2004 has now expired and the Dockers have told him to accept a major pay cut or look elsewhere, with emphasis on the latter.

Could/should he be the one we chase with our No.1 Pick in the Pre-season Draft?
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yes, then we have 2 Coggas and a Foley in the midfield rotations. Cant possibly be a negative when you add quality to where you need quality numbers.
He is a pro playing in an unpro team. Bring him to TW and well, lets just say his application at Freo was head and shoulders above Polaks, so i will leave the form guide say what the move did to Polak. ;)
 
Wally Matera said:
Where's the rest of our selections?!?! We better take more than 4 picks at the draft.

The way l see it, Hasleby represents much more value than Hyde, Howat, White, Hartigan. Would ditch anyone of these off our list to make room for him.
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We have had Hall, Kingley, Knobel and Gasper retire. So that leaves us with 4 open spots on our list. I wouldnt be surprised if Graham, King and Howat are all elevated, tho I am not thrilled at howat being elevated. We delist maybe 3 or 4 more players that gives us 5 free spots on the list. 4 picks in the National draft and 1 in the PSD.

We also have 3 free spots for rookies who will end up being cheaper then kids selected in ND but have about the same chance as those picked after about 40 or 50 cos its a shallow draft this year.

As for haselby. Good player and wouldnt mind having him in our side but is another with an attitude problem and has had a bad run with injuries so there is an element of risk. I dont really want to become the side the house's all of freo's rejects. Tho maybe we can get Pavlich in the end.
 
nugget_12 said:
Agree......As our PSD pick only would i chase him.

I dont think we should be tradeing for him.
I think our Drafting this year should be 4 in the National and one in the Pre-season.

I personally am hopeing for:
#2 = Cotchin
#18 = Rance/Collier
#19 = Ruckman
#35 = Allistair Neville

#1 PSD = Paul Haselby


Our list in young so i dont think drastic cleaning out of the playing group should be on the agenda.

Just get rid of the weeds that are in the club and are not worth taking forward.
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Do you really think that Allistair Neville3 will be picked up that early/
Have seen a few of his games this year and he is a ball magnet but his usage is questionable and we have enough players whos skills are questionable.
Do we need another one??
 
RichosGuns said:
We wouldn't be getting him for "free" as alot of you think.

Haselby is looking for a 3 year 450k per year deal from the Dockers. I would say that Richmond would still have to come to pretty handsome deal with him to secure his services. I think to give him a 3 year deal would be stupid, he has little trade bait, has had injury and weight problems, and he is a Western Australian.

Surely 1 of Meeson, Charman, Wood, Moran, etc. will go through to the PSD this year and with Coughlan coming back, and Simmonds not looking to be ready by round 1, we need ruckman more then we do midfielders at this stage
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with Gus and Patto in dev mode, I would be betting 18 or 19 pick with a sweetener, will mean we get this dude before the PSD. The lions will not let this guy go for nothing and we should attack. We need to cover Knobo's exit, with a big body while our kids keep developing. When it also comes with the quality tag, we would be mad to let it pass us by.
As for Haselby, he is purely looking at playing at another club, who it is depends on who has No1 or even 2 pick. What he wants from the dockers is neither here of there, he has been talked to by someone for sure. The end. ;)
 

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