Peel Thunder - 2016

[meima]

We want to set them up to succeed not fail.

Really not sure Fred, our depth and injuries is shocking, a lot hope is putting on bennell,apeness,Yarran ,mora who are injured. Players kicking is a lot worse on match day compare to training sim.Even collins start to give a few turn over at the back with peel. Anywhere maybe having low expectation is good now.

 

[Fred Ziffel]

Really not sure Fred, our depth and injuries is shocking, a lot hope is putting on bennell,apeness,Yarran ,mora who are injured. Players kicking is a lot worse on match day compare to training sim.

If injuries get very bad we will bring back Gu, Clanceeand MdB before risking kids that are not ready.
Ross made the comment about Mora, we need to set him up to succeed not fail when he was questioned about bringing him back in. He said he needs at least another two games , to be fair to Mora.

 

[meima]

If injuries get very bad we will bring back Gu, Clanceeand MdB before risking kids that are not ready.
Ross made the comment about Mora, we need to set him p to succeed not fail when he was questioned about bringing him back in. He said he needs at least another two games , to be fair to Mora.

He got hammy anywhere out for three to four week. I now suspect like you said the oval surface a bit hard. Mundy,Yarran and bennell all had calf problem this season.

 

[Fred Ziffel]

He got hammy anywhere out for three to four week. I now suspect like you said the oval surface a bit hard. Mundy,Yarran and bennell all had calf problem this season.

I have always thought the club needed to investigate if there was any correlation with our injuries and the Freo Oval surface.
Personally, I will be very happy when the boys are training on the new cockburn ground.

I understand Freo Oval is situated on an old limestone quarry. May be a factor maybe not, but it needs a thorough investigation.

 

[meima]

I have always thought the club needed to investigate if there was any correlation with our injuries and the Freo Oval surface.
Personally, I will be very happy when the boys are training on the new cockburn ground.

I understand Freo Oval is situated on an old limestone quarry. May be a factor maybe not, but it needs a thorough investigation.

I don't think they will do it since we are moving to Cockburn soon. Anywhere will go there and watch peel vs bullied.

 

[couldhavebeen]

I have always thought the club needed to investigate if there was any correlation with our injuries and the Freo Oval surface.
Personally, I will be very happy when the boys are training on the new cockburn ground.

I understand Freo Oval is situated on an old limestone quarry. May be a factor maybe not, but it needs a thorough investigation.

Fremantle oval was build on an old limestone quarry and in some places the limestone outcrops are close to the playing surface but the ground is over 100 years old and its never been an serious issue .Last year I was talking to the ground manager and he had engineers do compact tests .They damages 3 probes and totally wrecked 2 more so he estimated that if they were to try and rectify the problem they would need to remove all the playing surface and go in with heavy earth moving equipment plus explosives which is never going to happen .

 

[meima]

Fremantle oval was build on an old limestone quarry and in some places the limestone outcrops are close to the playing surface but the ground is over 100 years old and its never been an serious issue .Last year I was talking to the ground manager and he had engineers do compact tests .They damages 3 probes and totally wrecked 2 more so he estimated that if they were to try and rectify the problem they would need to remove all the playing surface and go in with heavy earth moving equipment plus explosives which is never going to happen .

Coulda apart from Darcy Cameron, who else to look for in WAfL

 

[Dirty_banchez]

No 52 Calvin Thorne - He looks like a good player. I hope the club looks at him in the future.

 

[Nodgey]

Fair enough but in 2015 season he won neafl rising star as defender , and behind him is Ryan nyhuis. Basically freo draft top 2 neafl rising star .

http://www.neafl.com.au/index.php?i...]=5549&cHash=3b586285b3cfed68e994bb95cef891c7

We must think the NEAFL a better league than the WAFL.....

 

[Steinfreo]

I have always thought the club needed to investigate if there was any correlation with our injuries and the Freo Oval surface.
Personally, I will be very happy when the boys are training on the new cockburn ground.

I understand Freo Oval is situated on an old limestone quarry. May be a factor maybe not, but it needs a thorough investigation.

Last time I ran around on it I almost wrecked my Gozleme so there are risks associated with the surface.

 

[G Mus]

He got hammy anywhere out for three to four week. I now suspect like you said the oval surface a bit hard. Mundy,Yarran and bennell all had calf problem this season.

With Mora they take some of the tendon from the semitendinosis muscle in the hamstrings in knee reconstruction, so the muscle itself must lengthen which takes a bit of time and strains should be expected

 

[meima]

We must think the NEAFL a better league than the WAFL.....

I think WAfL is a lot better than neafl, but with the alignment and lots of good WA kids going to GWS and GC , we got not choice but look at neafl. Anywhere all of them is rookie chances of them making it is quite low,just getting people to be backup or replace our footsoldiers take ages.

 

[beetz]

I think WAfL is a lot better than neafl, but with the alignment and lots of good WA kids going to GWS and GC , we got not choice but look at neafl. Anywhere all of them is rookie chances of them making it is quite low,just getting people to be backup or replace our footsoldiers take ages.

What alignment that sends WA kids to GWS/GC?

 

[couldhavebeen]

Coulda apart from Darcy Cameron, who else to look for in WAfL

I haven't seen all the teams so far this season so I'll hold judgement on recommendations for the time being .

 

[meima]

I haven't seen all the teams so far this season so I'll hold judgement on recommendations for the time being .

OK thanks.

 

[salim malik]

Yeah I think his kick is what will give him a good chance to make it. What would you say his weaknesses are atm that he needs to improve?

more experience and needs to build his stamina with another couple of pre seasons.

 

[meima]

No 52 Calvin Thorne - He looks like a good player. I hope the club looks at him in the future.

Will rookie him if availabe , but 60kg need Salim to keep telling him to bulk up. Credit to him to play for peel first team instead of Colt or reserve.

 

[malpaso]

Those two are not breaking the door down to get a game in the seniors when we a crying out for another ruck man. Clark is so disappointing.

The thing is they should play Clarke in the AFL and drop Griffin, then use the currency that Clarke will build and get a pick for him when he leaves. Griffin isn't going to do us any good either next year.
It's been said before but Clarke needs the drive and responsibility that a No.1 ruckman requires. He just gets lost out there in any other position.

 

[wayToGo_]

The thing is they should play Clarke in the AFL and drop Griffin, then use the currency that Clarke will build and get a pick for him when he leaves. Griffin isn't going to do us any good either next year.
It's been said before but Clarke needs the drive and responsibility that a No.1 ruckman requires. He just gets lost out there in any other position.

Pretty sure we would have got thumped by more than 3 goals if Clarke was playing instead of Griff on the weekend. Griff beat Mummy imo - that's pretty impressive. I think having some confidence in the group is more important than the very slim possibility Clarke's value might go up if he is playing AFL - in fact it might go down if he keep playing poorly.

 

[malpaso]

Pretty sure we would have got thumped by more than 3 goals if Clarke was playing instead of Griff on the weekend. Griff beat Mummy imo - that's pretty impressive. I think having some confidence in the group is more important than the very slim possibility Clarke's value might go up if he is playing AFL - in fact it might go down if he keep playing poorly.

Yeah no argument on Griff's performance, he stood up against Mummy, however he was also pathetic the week before along with Clarke. I'm just talking about the benefit Clarke will get us when he leaves.

 

[wayToGo_]

Yeah no argument on Griff's performance, he stood up against Mummy, however he was also pathetic the week before along with Clarke. I'm just talking about the benefit Clarke will get us when he leaves.

Yeah it's just a compensation pick and given he is fringe, has had ongoing injury issues, and is not B22 even when Sandi is out I can't imagine he'd be being offered any massive contracts from us or any other clubs even if he was currently playing. He struggled for Peel on the weekend so I don't think he is going to improve and show anything for AFL and get other clubs excited any time soon. Hopefully he proves us wrong, steps up in WAFL, earns a recall, and then he'll be worth more to us either as a player or as a compensation pick. He was good early last year, seems something is troubling him this year.

 

[Alfonz]

I have always thought the club needed to investigate if there was any correlation with our injuries and the Freo Oval surface.
Personally, I will be very happy when the boys are training on the new cockburn ground.

I understand Freo Oval is situated on an old limestone quarry. May be a factor maybe not, but it needs a thorough investigation.

I've said the same years ago. I remember reports as well that the ground was maybe too hard? There was one year (back in the Harvey days) that Freo and South both had horrific injury lists. Coincidence? Maybe.

Either the ground is bad, or our medical staff are bad. You can't control broken bones or twisted knees, but soft tissue leg injuries should be minimized. I knew someone who worked on the WC medical team, and they were held responsible for every calf, hamstring, groin, etc. Our players seem to suffer more than other sides, and have for years.

 

[salim malik]

I've said the same years ago. I remember reports as well that the ground was maybe too hard? There was one year (back in the Harvey days) that Freo and South both had horrific injury lists. Coincidence? Maybe.

Either the ground is bad, or our medical staff are bad. You can't control broken bones or twisted knees, but soft tissue leg injuries should be minimized. I knew someone who worked on the WC medical team, and they were held responsible for every calf, hamstring, groin, etc. Our players seem to suffer more than other sides, and have for years.

But our major injuries are broken ribs ,broken leg, sciatica based ongoing calf problem and an ongoing back injury causing calf problems none of which can be contributed to Freo oval's surface. The medical staff treatment of them could not be blamed either. Its a contact sport ,injuries happen. Now if you mentioned travel and the inability to treat the injuries properly in a plane on the way back from interstate I think you would be onto something.

 

[sherrif]

If anyone watched the game Id love answers to two questions. 1. How was Mora playing before the injury? The West said he was playing well before the injury. 2. How was Langdon's disposal? His game looks good on the stat sheet, but his stats can be misleading as he is not always damaging with his possessions.

 

[PapaJ]

He got hammy anywhere out for three to four week. I now suspect like you said the oval surface a bit hard. Mundy,Yarran and bennell all had calf problem this season.

Mundy has played his entire career at Freo and trained a gazzilion times on Freo oval and at one point had the most consecutive games for Freo and was something like 2nd/3rd in the league overall. Up until his freak ankle injury in 2011 (I think), he was very durable and the Freo oval did nothing to dent that.

Bennell is well known to have brought his crepe paper calves with him.

Yarren also brought injuries with him from Subiaco and has been on the Freo deck for barely 6 months.

EDIT: Actually he hasn't bee on the Freo deck for that long because he's been injured, but you know what I mean.