Pelchen To Replace Miller?

[_RT_]

Word is we are after Chris Pelchen from the Hawks to replace Miller. Was mentioned on radio yesterday morning and then Hutchy mentioned it last night on the Footy Show.

For those that don't know, Pelchen was the guy who has put together the Hawks list.

Would be a good get IMO, if we could land Pelchen. Apparently he has already had talks with the club. Thoughts?

 

[beaver fever]

He was Port Adelaide's list manager previously before he moved to Hawthorn. Although the position we are looking for him to take involves a lot more than just list management, I guess the club feels he can step up to the plate. His CV certainly looks impressive. Kinda shits me how this got out. The club really needs to plug itself up it is full of holes.

Should note he joined Hawthorn mid 2005 so he wasn't involved in their 2004 draft selections.

 

[Thaihawk]

Word is we are after Chris Pelchen from the Hawks to replace Miller. Was mentioned on radio yesterday morning and then Hutchy mentioned it last night on the Footy Show.

For those that don't know, Pelchen was the guy who has put together the Hawks list.

Would be a good get IMO, if we could land Pelchen. Apparently he has already had talks with the club. Thoughts?

I thought that was what Wallace has been doing overthe past four years. We employed Pelchan as a long term planning expert to manage our list by getting the best available. Does this mean the Tigers are about to start again.

Also his job at Hawthorn is not yet finished.

 

[Heisenberg_]

Would be a great get.
Doubt it will happen though

 

[Bojangles17]

would be a promotion from his current role as list manager, the tigers job being director of football department...will be interesting to see if steve wright can convince him of our future, as Im sure the job in iteslf would be an attraction if he has any ambitions...sounds like a good candidate

wouldnt think he'd like to make a move before the seasons out which may may make him an outsider

 

[krustyman]

i hope his best work isnt behind him like the high profile greg miller who used the tiger job as a retirement plan and did nothing!!

 

[eays]

He was Port Adelaide's list manager previously before he moved to Hawthorn. Although the position we are looking for him to take involves a lot more than just list management, I guess the club feels he can step up to the plate. His CV certainly looks impressive. Kinda shits me how this got out. The club really needs to plug itself up it is full of holes.

Should note he joined Hawthorn mid 2005 so he wasn't involved in their 2004 draft selections.

Would definately be a good get. Would change the mould of skinny flankers we seem to draft now. KPP's and tough mids is the blue print for success. Not rocket science but TW and Miller were obsessed with a plan that has never really lead to anything (not just the Tigs, but no premiership team has been built around lightly framed running players)

 

[davemills]

i hope his best work isnt behind him like the high profile greg miller who used the tiger job as a retirement plan and did nothing!!

Context is decisive krustyman. I guess you are judging it based on the little on field success we have had... and a bit of bitterness at that?

For mine he has done a very credible job. And what I am looking at is the club as a whole. He has been part, possibly a big part, of making us respectable again.

 

[beaver fever]

Would definately be a good get. Would change the mould of skinny flankers we seem to draft now. KPP's and tough mids is the blue print for success. Not rocket science but TW and Miller were obsessed with a plan that has never really lead to anything (not just the Tigs, but no premiership team has been built around lightly framed running players)

I don't even know if they really had a list management system in place. They seemed to leave things to chance far too much.

Apparently Moran was available for pick 35 and Hartigan last year, but 35 went for a flanker. Fair enough Morton seems to be a good player, but they took a huge gamble on Putt dropping to 51 when we were prepared to use pick 18 on him if worst came to worst. Same with Riewoldt dropping to 13. Trading 2 picks for flankers last draft when we were crying out for talls just shows how little they thought of developing a proper structure.

 

[banzai]

Would definately be a good get. Would change the mould of skinny flankers we seem to draft now. KPP's and tough mids is the blue print for success. Not rocket science but TW and Miller were obsessed with a plan that has never really lead to anything (not just the Tigs, but no premiership team has been built around lightly framed running players)

I would say the 3 best players Hawthorn has drafted since Pelchin arrived would be Ellis, Birchall and Rioli. They are hardly KPP's or tough mids.

 

[UpTheGuts]

sounds good, though happy for him not to have sole recruiting sole, in favour of overseeing the dept:

His record:

2005:

Traded Hay to North for pick 18
Traded Lonie to Port for pick 14 (surely this is top 10 in terms of joke trades)

3: Ellis
6: Dowler
14: Birchall
18: Bailey
22: Muston
38: T Tuck (F/S)

PSD:

Guerra

Rookie:

McEntee
Lucas Markovic
Stephen Gilham
Ben Kane
McGlynn

2006:

Traded Everitt to Swans for pick #33

6: Thorp (#7 Selwood.....)
24: Renouf
33: Morton
40: Josh Kennedy (F/S)
56: Moss (who??)

PSD:

Thurgood

Rookie:
Brett Collins
Matthew Suckling
Sam Gibson

2007:

12: Rioli
29: Whitecross
45: S Dew

Rookie:

Hugh Sandilands
Tim Walsh
Alex Grima
Cameron Stokes

 

[beaver fever]

I would say the 3 best players Hawthorn has drafted since Pelchin arrived would be Ellis, Birchall and Rioli. They are hardly KPP's or tough mids.

He has shown he knows what the list needs though and goes for it. Gilham, Thorpe, Bailey and Renouf seem likely types.

 

[peejay]

sounds good, though happy for him not to have sole recruiting sole, in favour of overseeing the dept:

His record:

2005:

Traded Hay to North for pick 18
Traded Lonie to Port for pick 14 (surely this is top 10 in terms of joke trades)

3: Ellis
6: Dowler
14: Birchall
18: Bailey
22: Muston
38: T Tuck (F/S)

PSD:

Guerra

Rookie:

McEntee
Lucas Markovic
Stephen Gilham
Ben Kane
McGlynn

2006:

Traded Everitt to Swans for pick #33

6: Thorp (#7 Selwood.....)
24: Renouf
33: Morton
40: Josh Kennedy (F/S)
56: Moss (who??)

PSD:

Thurgood

Rookie:
Brett Collins
Matthew Suckling
Sam Gibson

2007:

12: Rioli
29: Whitecross
45: S Dew

Rookie:

Hugh Sandilands
Tim Walsh
Alex Grima
Cameron Stokes

That doesn't exactly leave me in awe ,

 

[Tigertom]

I seem to recall similar sentiments when we got miller

This goes against the moronic talks of getting richmond people back at the club.

This footy club amazes me as to how public its secrets are( Millers leaked sacking and now his leaked replacement).

 

[beaver fever]

This position is much more than list management remember. Contracts (staying in the cap), sports science, player conditioning and health and other roles encompass the chief executive football operations. His abilities as a list manager are a massive bonus though. I doubt very much he would have let the McMahon trade be signed off.

 

[richoatthedisco]

Who says it's a Richmond leak? The person who told me about it heard it from a Hawthorn person. Pelchen's drafting at Hawthorn is pretty solid. Bailey and Muston would be guns if they could get on the park. Gilham and Birchall are keys to their side, Morton's good, McGlynn goes all right (even if he is a gutless sniper) and Rioli's a star. Not too many disasters. Besides, as pointed out, he wouldn't be in charge of our recruiting, he'd head the footy department.

 

[Top_4_Tiger]

That doesn't exactly leave me in awe ,

Hawthorn's recruiting between 2001-2004 is what sets tham apart today.

Their recruiting between 2005-2008 is seen as "excellent" in part because of their draft position and because of the Buddy factor.

Richmond have recruited better than Hawthorn since after the 2004 draft (which we did very well on anyway, don't let one missed opportunity spoil the party), but due to ladder position perception doesn't meet reality.

Hawthorn's recruits over this time may prove to be head and shoulders above everyone else's, but it is far too early to give credit to Pelchin for Hawthorn's success.

His work at Port Adelaide is what is impressive, he has done well at Hawthorn but the hype is from his Port days.

 

[beaver fever]

Hawthorn's recruiting between 2001-2004 is what sets tham apart today.

Their recruiting between 2005-2008 is seen as "excellent" in part because of their draft position and because of the Buddy factor.

Richmond have recruited better than Hawthorn since after the 2004 draft (which we did very well on anyway, don't let one missed opportunity spoil the party), but due to ladder position perception doesn't meet reality.

Hawthorn's recruits over this time may prove to be head and shoulders above everyone else's, but it is far too early to give credit to Pelchin for Hawthorn's success.

His work at Port Adelaide is what is impressive, he has done well at Hawthorn but the hype is from his Port days.

Come on mate our 2004 and 2005 drafts were a disgrace.

 

[NQTIGER]

Word is we are after Chris Pelchen from the Hawks to replace Miller. Was mentioned on radio yesterday morning and then Hutchy mentioned it last night on the Footy Show.

For those that don't know, Pelchen was the guy who has put together the Hawks list.

Would be a good get IMO, if we could land Pelchen. Apparently he has already had talks with the club. Thoughts?

The rumour started on big footy and the mainstream media picks t up....amazing....it might be true but then again

 

[Bojangles17]

Come on mate our 2004 and 2005 drafts were a disgrace.

Not sure the Hawks would be where they are if this was there NET return ea year

3: Ellis
6: Dowler
14: Birchall
18: Bailey
22: Muston
38: T Tuck (F/S)

 

[telsor]

We hired a list manager at the start of the season.

What they're looking for is a football dept manager...can't see any background for that here...doesn't mean he isn't a good candidate, but keep in mind what he'd be getting hired to do.

 

[beaver fever]

Not sure the Hawks would be where they are if this was there NET return ea year

3: Ellis
6: Dowler
14: Birchall
18: Bailey
22: Muston
38: T Tuck (F/S)

1 million times better than what we ended up with. Bailey and Muston are quality and injuries have greatly impacted them. Ellis and Birchall are established best 22 and Tuck is a solid player. Dowler seems the only failure.

 

[Doobie]

Hawthorn's recruiting between 2001-2004 is what sets tham apart today.

Their recruiting between 2005-2008 is seen as "excellent" in part because of their draft position and because of the Buddy factor.

Richmond have recruited better than Hawthorn since after the 2004 draft (which we did very well on anyway, don't let one missed opportunity spoil the party), but due to ladder position perception doesn't meet reality.

Hawthorn's recruits over this time may prove to be head and shoulders above everyone else's, but it is far too early to give credit to Pelchin for Hawthorn's success.

His work at Port Adelaide is what is impressive, he has done well at Hawthorn but the hype is from his Port days.

richmond recruited better hawthorn than thats a classic

 

[UpTheGuts]

1 million times better than what we ended up with. Bailey and Muston are quality and injuries have greatly impacted them. Ellis and Birchall are established best 22 and Tuck is a solid player. Dowler seems the only failure.

We wanted Dowler and would have taken him at 9.

 

[Bojangles17]

1 million times better than what we ended up with. Bailey and Muston are quality and injuries have greatly impacted them. Ellis and Birchall are established best 22 and Tuck is a solid player. Dowler seems the only failure.

2005 was a pretty ordinary return for us , I stop short of rating players on their junior credentials though..Bailey and Muston have failed to live up to expectations..No good claiming injuries as an excuse, you don't hear us bleating over Cogs wretched run. Ellis was a No 3 pick and progressed at about the same rate as Tambling, Id still back Tambling to be a better player, at least he carries the ball..Birchall is a good player as is Tuck albeit recruited on F/S so hardly reflects thier nous