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My point is even if he doesn't go in that hard at those times, it doesn't make him a purely outside player. He will turn out to be a good contested ball winner or even an extractor regardless.

BTW that Brisbane game was the same game where he took a mark back with the flight in front of a leading Jonathon Brown. That was one of his first games, and I remember that and he was clearly overawed.

He just seems to me to be a player who will strive to improve the physical side the game. He is not one to shy from physical contests and seems to excel in them, especially when the ball is in the air. He is great one on one (contested marks against McLeod and Bolton).
 
My point is even if he doesn't go in that hard at those times, it doesn't make him a purely outside player. He will turn out to be a good contested ball winner or even an extractor regardless.

i definitely agree. it's just interesting that daisy is loves for being so hard at it and pendles has these moments of hesitation.

right now i reckon pendles looks like turning out to be a much better player than daisy. DT needs to be more consistent and have more of it.

MM shouldn't just have him playing forward or coming off the flank. throw him in the middle for 10 minutes and let's see what the kid can do.
 
MM shouldn't just have him playing forward or coming off the flank. throw him in the middle for 10 minutes and let's see what the kid can do.

He has, in fact for the first 5 or more games he was a primarily a midfielder or winger.

Thomas will be a midfielder. He will be much better off there. I can imagine him in the coming years as a good midfielder getting tagged out of the game, only to have him move forward for a bit to create havoc on his opponent. He reminds me of Gary Ablett Jnr.
 
i love pendles (he has taken over from bucks with the number on my jumper) but he is not the hardest nut out there. daisy goes hard regardless but there have been a few times when scotty has hesitated. last year against brisbane he didn't step into the line of charman when he was going for a mark (charman gave it to him as well). it's a great asset to have vision and put your team mates in space, but there are times when you just have to cop a hit and lock up the ball. i reckon he needs to learn that a bit more. he's a star though. hopefully our next skipper. if he just went as hard as he did on anzac day this year he will be an absolute gem with no knockers.

So you would actually have liked to see a skinny 19 year old kid step into the line of an oncoming Charman? For what? So he can watch his "brave" attempt from his hospital bed?

I think sometimes recklessness and bravery are confused when talking about AFL.
 

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So you would actually have liked to see a skinny 19 year old kid step into the line of an oncoming Charman? For what? So he can watch his "brave" attempt from his hospital bed?

I think sometimes recklessness and bravery are confused when talking about AFL.
exactly the point i was trying to make.
 
As I said in another thread.

I saw him 'squib' 3 contests against the Crows, and each time I shuddered.

Then watching the replay the next morning, I noted that he ended up with the ball 2 our of those 3 contests.

The kid is just smart.
 
Clement cost us a goal because he was afraid of not "putting in". When he the rampaging Gill came to collect the ball, he ran up at him too, got knocked over with a stray high bump, Gill managed to get the ball due to numbers and kick a goal. If he had swallowed his pride and met Gill and tackle him rather than go in recklessly to get the ball he was never going to get, we may have held it up.
 
Clement cost us a goal because he was afraid of not "putting in". When he the rampaging Gill came to collect the ball, he ran up at him too, got knocked over with a stray high bump, Gill managed to get the ball due to numbers and kick a goal. If he had swallowed his pride and met Gill and tackle him rather than go in recklessly to get the ball he was never going to get, we may have held it up.
i actually thought clement hesitated in that incident. I think he was worried about gil bending down to pick the ball up or something like that and didnt wanna end up with an ugly incident.
 
i actually thought clement hesitated in that incident. I think he was worried about gil bending down to pick the ball up or something like that and didnt wanna end up with an ugly incident.
That was right in front of me. I felt as though Clement heard footsteps and pulled out of the contest instead of putting his head over the ball.

There was another similar incident, in the 3rd I think, where Clement failed to get possession because he seemed to shit himself.
 
I don't want to sound like to much of a critic because i do love the kid, that said it is a lot easier to chase a bloke and get into a push and shove knowing that the chances of getting a hit of any real intensity are low, then it is to put your head over it when there is a chance of a high intensity hit coming, I am being a lil bit overly critical and i do think as he gets bigger this will improve, that said as optimax said you don't want it to become a habit

While I hear what you are saying, its Chris Tarrant he had a go at. ;)
 
So you would actually have liked to see a skinny 19 year old kid step into the line of an oncoming Charman? For what? So he can watch his "brave" attempt from his hospital bed?

I think sometimes recklessness and bravery are confused when talking about AFL.

whether he gets hurt or not is not the point. i have the game on tape (buckley kicks 6!) and pendles takes a step towards the contest, then turns and sees charman, and then pulls out. it just looks cowardly.
 
That was right in front of me. I felt as though Clement heard footsteps and pulled out of the contest instead of putting his head over the ball.

There was another similar incident, in the 3rd I think, where Clement failed to get possession because he seemed to shit himself.

with the gill contest, jimmy just had to get lower and take the footy. or just wait for a second and take gill down in one his strong tackles. he seemed to be caught in two minds.

sometimes in games i wonder whether he is a little hesitant because of the broken cheekbone he had against freo a few years ago and then the eye injury he had against melbourne in a pre-season game.
 
whether he gets hurt or not is not the point. i have the game on tape (buckley kicks 6!) and pendles takes a step towards the contest, then turns and sees charman, and then pulls out. it just looks cowardly.

Actually that's exactly the point. If the options are "look cowardly" or get hospitalized, I'd much rather he "look cowardly".
 

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Actually that's exactly the point. If the options are "look cowardly" or get hospitalized, I'd much rather he "look cowardly".

i'm note sure if you've actually seen this incident or not. the ball is kicked into the brisbane forward line and a pack is forming underneath it. pendles is just to the right of the contest. he takes a step towards the contest, then looks to his right and sees charman and a few others coming at the footy, and then backs out of it and the ball just bounces in front of him and ends up going over the line.

no chance of getting hospitalised at all. it's just a bit soft. i love pendles but he needs to toughen up a bit. he put on a fair bit in the gym over the summer and hopefully that happens again. if he's a bit bigger he won't hesitate any more.
 
FFS stop overanalysing one incident from one year ago in one of his first games of his career. I could take an incident from the same game where he took a mark backing back against a rampaging Brown and say he is as tough as Gavin Brown.

take it easy cowboy. people use examples to support arguments.

it would be good if pendles toughened up a little more.
 
I am one old magpie, who loves the way a second year player attracts so much attension.
Reading the posts i must have miss read that Pendlebury, is a sliky smooth skilled kid with the talent to use the one speed ploders, whos job it is to get the ball into the hands of those who can use it.
Thanks to all who have pointed out that he is a 10 year veteran in the Michael Voss mould. What crap.... enjoy him for what he is ... not for what he isnt, There must have been a lot of gutsy players amongst these posters to be so critical.
 
FFS stop overanalysing one incident from one year ago in one of his first games of his career. I could take an incident from the same game where he took a mark backing back against a rampaging Brown and say he is as tough as Gavin Brown.

it was actually his debut game. i remember it vividly.

i also remember he felled acker on his a$$ and embarrassed another 1-2 lions with a lovely sidestep in the last quarter
 

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