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i, the undersigned believe that Shane Keith Warne is a drug cheat, who has always got everyone to blame but himself, ranging from joe the cameraman to the anti doping hysteria.

I also will make it my business to boo vociferously when he first makes a comeback game at my home town.





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Originally posted by syphon
I also will make it my business to boo vociferously when he first makes a comeback game at my home town.
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So i take it then, that you will paying good money to go and boo the greatest leg spinner in history, who just happens to be an Australian.

I wonder what Warne has done in between the indescretions that you mentioned in another thread.

No doubt he has been out robbing old women and pushing little kids in front of trucks.

There is no way he has been helping out at clinics, visiting sick kids in hospital and raising a family.

There is no good at all in Warne, and the media does not follow him constantly looking for little things to turn into mountains.
 
FACT: Shane Keith Warne is not, and never has been, a drug cheat. The board acknowledged that the diuretic was not taken as a performance enhancing drug, nor to mask the presence of another.

I will take the board's opinion over a petty, small-minded @rsehole like Syphon any day.
 
That will be a very small petition, cause the vast majority of australians are patriotic, and get behind their players, even in difficult circumstances.
Will u join the thousands of fans cheering like mad and saying 'i never doubted him' one year after his comeback, when he re installs himself as the greatest ever spinner?
 

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Originally posted by Perty4
Will u join the thousands of fans cheering like mad and saying 'i never doubted him' one year after his comeback, when he re installs himself as the greatest ever spinner?
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I don't. But I won't boo him either.

I believe that he used it to mask steroids myself. I don't believe his story for a second. But that is just my opinion.
 
I am actually wondering what kind of drug you would have to take to give the ball more turn, answer me that?

He took the pill because he is a stupid fool. End of story, he is not a cheat.
 
The person who started this thread is a complete and utter tosser, Shane Warne has been the greatest spin bowler in the History of the game, he is also responsible for many of the great victories Australia has experienced. So any ****er that bags him obviously has not enjoyed the successful period of australian cricket and hence is one of the biggerst ****ers you could ever come across. I have no hesitation in saying that i believe Shane Warne obviously has become very image conscious, wonder why he got that way, remember the headlines about a fat Warne. Anyone that is watching their weight knows they fear putting weight back on and will go to what seems like stupid lengths to others to keep the weight off. I believe this is what Warne was thinking when he took the tablet.
 
Originally posted by clucas91
I am actually wondering what kind of drug you would have to take to give the ball more turn, answer me that?

He took the pill because he is a stupid fool. End of story, he is not a cheat.
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you forget about that remarkable recovery from the shoulder injury... coincidence?? maybe the chinese swimmers body shapes and positive tests were also a coincidence, just another case of supposed "long, hard workouts in the gym"

clucas... why dont we just make every leg spinner exempt from the anti-doping rules, and every batter too. because some people like yourself that convince themselves that steroids only assist power athletes such as weightlifters and sprinters. leg spinners work out with the weights and recover from injuries too you know.






i dont think australians will boo him, he copped the penalty issued and that should be that i would hope.
 
Anyone who boos one of the greatest cricketers this country has ever produced, the greatest leg-spinner in the history of the game and first spinner to take 400 test wickets has absolutely no understanding and/or appreciation for this great game of cricket.
 
Originally posted by ScouseCat
Anyone who boos one of the greatest cricketers this country has ever produced, the greatest leg-spinner in the history of the game and first spinner to take 400 test wickets has absolutely no understanding and/or appreciation for this great game of cricket.
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you could say the same sorts of things about wayne carey.
 

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I've recieved the email circulating with the attachment claiming to be the signed panel decision from the hearing. I must say I have only skimmed thru the 12 pages, but at first glance it could very well be genuine.

If I could work out how to attach a pdf file here so you could all read it, I would. If anyone knows how let me know, or let me know if you want me to email it to you.
 
Originally posted by ScouseCat

Anyone who boos one of the greatest cricketers this country has ever produced, the greatest leg-spinner in the history of the game
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Well if any of you had an appreciation of the game you'd not be saying the Warne was the greatest. Bill O'Rielly was a better leg-spinner than Warne. I'm not saying he is not a champion just that he isn't the best ever.
 
Originally posted by nicko18
you could say the same sorts of things about wayne carey.
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Quite a bit different Nicko, i think you know what the difference is.
 
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Quite a bit different Nicko, i think you know what the difference is.
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whatever, the point was made if you boo a champion sportsman then apparantly you have no idea about that sport.

and they are not quite different at all. both are champions of their sport, both are arrogant, and both are guilty of dispicable acts.
 
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Originally posted by fabulousphil
So i take it then, that you will paying good money to go and boo the greatest leg spinner in history, who just happens to be an Australian.

I wonder what Warne has done in between the indescretions that you mentioned in another thread.

No doubt he has been out robbing old women and pushing little kids in front of trucks.

There is no way he has been helping out at clinics, visiting sick kids in hospital and raising a family.

There is no good at all in Warne, and the media does not follow him constantly looking for little things to turn into mountains.
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I quite like Warnie (maybe surprsising considering I'm English) & I do really hate the way modern sports stars are conditioned into worrying so much about their public profile, I don't care too much about what they get up to in theri personal life & I don't really mind 'bad behaviour' on the pitch within reason the only thing I don't tolerate is cheating.

I don't know if Warne used this diuretic to lose weight or to mask steroids, as a diuretic basically promotes the loss of fluid from the body I can't understand why anyone would think taking one would assist in the losing of fat????I must admit I was amazed when I saw a photo recently of Warne with his top off showing his new 'buffed' physique, did a guy with a history of laziness where his physical conditioning is concerned manage to turn from a lard arse to a muscle man in a relatively short time naturally or did he take a few helping substances?I honestly don't know.

If you take a banned substance you have to cop the ban & I think it's wrong for everyone to say he's not a drug cheat he just took a diuretic.Of course the ACB are going to play it down it's in their interests to do so, I look forward to the day when a sporting organisation in any sport catch one of their own stars & don't automatically look to get them off or give them the shortest ban possible.


Whilst you mention Warne's good work it must be said he uses his profile to great effect to make money through sponsorship etc, nothing wrong with this but when you do this I feel you are fair game to have your indiscretions pointed out.

He took money from an Indian bookmaker, everyone says he wasn't match fixing but was just stupid or naive, I don't know if he fixed any matches but once again he gets the benefit of the doubt.

Even associating himself with products to help give up smoking whilst still smoking & then going ape at some kid who took a photo of him having a ciggie shows that he is no respector of the truth, it seems he will try to get away with what he can.

When he was England he was hounding some chick with dirty phone calls, as I say what peoole do in their private life doesn't bother me but it shows a willingness to a)think he can get away with things & b)in context of what you say about him raising his family & how he does use his family man image to help his public profile it shows a man isn't quite what he seems there as well.

Having said all that I hope he comes back to play Test cricket in a year's time, I'm of the view that where cricket's concerened drugs can't do that much to help a player, the crux of the game is still technical ability it's not quite like being a 100m runner but I do doubt that a professional sportsman would take a diuretic to lose fat, it doesn't make sense.

As nicko pointed out he did seem to recover from his shoulder injury in an almost unbleivably quick time considering at first everyone thought he would be touch & go for the world cup.
 

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Originally posted by nicko18

and they are not quite different at all. both are champions of their sport, both are arrogant, and both are guilty of dispicable acts.
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Nicko, i can see by your posts that you are really upset by Warnes indescretions, and i agree that he has been really stupid, really really stupid, and i agree he is arrogant, but to say he has committed a dispicable act is way over the top.

Even what Carey did, and i consider it way worse than what Warne did is not a dispicable act.

Having sex with a goat, budgie or cat is a dispicable act, drink driving and hitting someone is a dispicable act, king hitting someone from behind is a dispicable act.

Just remember no PROOF of steroid use was found by the board, and i believe they stated that his return from his shoulder was in the normal time frame.
 
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Just remember no PROOF of steroid use was found by the board, and i believe they stated that his return from his shoulder was in the normal time frame.
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Thats right FabPhil, we will never know because the diuretid that he took is the most powerful and best masking drug that one can take, it will flush any chemical in your fluid stream in a matter of 3 hours. Also, it's in the best interest of the ACB to start playing it down and l think, they might be having a quiet word with Warne to shut his trap up before he lands himself in more trouble.
We will only ever find out if he took a steriod or any social drug, if he admits himself to a blood test which will show what he has taken in the last 6mths. Now he couldn't be that stupid or brave to do this all for the sake of restoring his crediability?

When the world sports agencies start taking blood tests from all athletes, thats when drugs in sport will diminish!
 
Originally posted by fabulousphil
Nicko, i can see by your posts that you are really upset by Warnes indescretions, and i agree that he has been really stupid, really really stupid, and i agree he is arrogant, but to say he has committed a dispicable act is way over the top.

Even what Carey did, and i consider it way worse than what Warne did is not a dispicable act.

Having sex with a goat, budgie or cat is a dispicable act, drink driving and hitting someone is a dispicable act, king hitting someone from behind is a dispicable act.

Just remember no PROOF of steroid use was found by the board, and i believe they stated that his return from his shoulder was in the normal time frame.
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perhaps you are right phil, in regards to despicable, but i feel it has dealt a cruel blow to the reputation of this whole country in regards to drug cheats. i couldnt blame other countries viewing us now as we do the chinese, but what makes it worse is they got 4 years for being caught with diuretics (no steroids... same as warne's scenario), wheras it looks like we have gone soft. the same agency which employs warne is also the same agency which convened the panel.

you are right im a bit cheesed off by what he did (but he also lied... that makes it 5 times worse). i dont care about him waving a stump above his head at lords, i dont even care about him having a durry, nor phone sex. when he starts lying, thats when people fet ticked off with him. if he did nothing wrong in this case, i cant imagine why he didnt tell the whole story from the start, rather than waiting for evidence to come to light and only admitting to that, and no further. even at the end of the hearing the panel had grave doubts that warne was telling the truth, add to that inconsistent evidence and things just dont weigh up.
 

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