Phil Mcguiness retires

[Macca19]

Phil Mcguiness has retired from SANFL because of "work commitments". Its more likely hes quit because hes cracked a sh*t that he cant get into the senior side.

Was a good contributor in his earlier days at Port after crossing from Glenelg, often providing a spark in the forward lines. In 1999 he kicked the winning goal, a 55 metre reverse torp, in the Grand Final to win the game for the Pies. In 2000 he was close to the best player in the league. Its a pity that he found his comfort zone between 2000 and 2001 because he became fat and bloody useless. The last 2 years he has been extremely crap.

Goodbye Phil. Dont let the door hit you on the way out.

 

[Docker_Brat]

Originally posted by Macca19
Goodbye Phil. Dont let the door hit you on the way out.

Funny, most Port supporters I know feel the same way about him.

Never fully accepted at Ethelton IIRC, he only went to Port to try and enhance his bid to play AFL. That worked, didn't it?

 

[Jars458]

Originally posted by Macca19
Goodbye Phil. Dont let the door hit you on the way out.

Again, how very gracious of you.

A very solid contributor for the Magpies, who I would say deserves more respect than that comment.

 

[RoosterWedgie]

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Originally posted by Docker_Brat
Funny, most Port supporters I know feel the same way about him.

Not just Port supporters, I think most people in general think he is a waste of space.

 

[Eago77]

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Originally posted by RoosterWedgie
Not just Port supporters, I think most people in general think he is a waste of space.

As a person i'd agreee, also many supporters from all clubs do think the same thing, however he did turn in a few good performances/years for the Magpies, his time has past by though.

 

[Macca19]

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Originally posted by Jars458
Again, how very gracious of you.

A very solid contributor for the Magpies, who I would say deserves more respect than that comment.

He came to our club for seflsih reasons. I have every right to say whatever i feel about him. Selfish person, selfish footballer. Was once a solid valuable footballer. The last two years hes become a fat, useless, skilless footballer who seems to think he should have preferential treatment and selection regardless of how crap hes become.

Had he come to our club because it was his childhood dream, instead of being a selfish bugger then id be a lot more positive about him and his retirement.

He had his moments. One of the top 3 or 4 players in the SANFL in 2000. Leading goalkicker in 97 (36 goals). Kicked winning goal in 99 grand final.

 

[Uncle Steve]

Originally posted by Macca19
Phil Mcguiness has retired from SANFL because of "work commitments". Its more likely hes quit because hes cracked a sh*t that he cant get into the senior side.

Or more likely he's scared of on-field retribution for a few "indiscreet" acts he performed towards the end of his days in Port's league side.

In his day he could kick a footy, granted. At the time he left Glenelg he would have been one of the top players there (which doesn't say much, granted) and he was one of the better players at the Magpies.

Nevertheless it is more fitting to remember him as a sorry little tryhard who had no love for any jumper in which he played. A player who was once good, could even have been great if his heart was in the right place, but degenerated into a gutless little sniper.

Good riddance to bad rubbish.

 

[Jars458]

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Originally posted by Macca19
He came to our club for seflsih reasons. I have every right to say whatever i feel about him. Selfish person, selfish footballer. Was once a solid valuable footballer. The last two years hes become a fat, useless, skilless footballer who seems to think he should have preferential treatment and selection regardless of how crap hes become.

Had he come to our club because it was his childhood dream, instead of being a selfish bugger then id be a lot more positive about him and his retirement.

He had his moments. One of the top 3 or 4 players in the SANFL in 2000. Leading goalkicker in 97 (36 goals). Kicked winning goal in 99 grand final.

He didn't pick himself Macca, guys on your panel who were "port people" did.

So I guess all the non Magpie playters on the Power list you have no respect for either. Most of those only played for Port so they could play in teh AFL and it had nothing to do wiht a childhood dream

No difference between P McGuiness and M Primus in that respect I would have thought.


Poor form Macca and Uncle Steve.

 

[McAlmanac]

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Originally posted by Jars458
So I guess all the non Magpie playters on the Power list you have no respect for either. Most of those only played for Port so they could play in teh AFL and it had nothing to do wiht a childhood dream

The same could be said of any delisted AFL player who heads over to the SANFL from Victoria. Say Glenn Kilpatrick, Ryan O'Connor, Ross Funcke etc. These guys are just putting themselves in the shop window, hoping to be re-drafted.

 

[dreamkillers]

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Originally posted by Jars458
He didn't pick himself Macca, guys on your panel who were "port people" did.

So I guess all the non Magpie playters on the Power list you have no respect for either. Most of those only played for Port so they could play in teh AFL and it had nothing to do wiht a childhood dream

No difference between P McGuiness and M Primus in that respect I would have thought.


Poor form Macca and Uncle Steve.

I think you completely missed Macca's point..........sure he didn't pick himself but he has always appeared to put himself first before the club...........

As for comparing McGuiness to Primus............further proof you completely missed the point........a better comparison would be McGuiness and the Pavlich bros that went missing at the Eagles a number of years ago to play at Flinders Park in the SAFA

 

[Docker_Brat]

Perhaps he could be the opposite of Mark Tylor and make a comeback for the Bays

 

[eddie eagle]

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Originally posted by Jars458
He didn't pick himself Macca, guys on your panel who were "port people" did.

So I guess all the non Magpie playters on the Power list you have no respect for either. Most of those only played for Port so they could play in teh AFL and it had nothing to do wiht a childhood dream

No difference between P McGuiness and M Primus in that respect I would have thought.


Poor form Macca and Uncle Steve.

I'd have to agree Jars - I saw Mcguinness often kick goals from improbable snaps, and was often efficient with his "goals to kicks ratio", annoyingly so.

To judge him solely on perceived selfishness, depsite his efforts for whatever club he was playing for, when there are examples or players who would be classified as in similar positions, ie switching clubs for better opportunities, either to play sanfl league, A1 or AFL, is perhaps inconsistent.

Having said this his rumoured off field misdemeanors, if true would have left some negative impressions.

 

[Jars458]

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Originally posted by dreamkillers
I think you completely missed Macca's point..........sure he didn't pick himself but he has always appeared to put himself first before the club...........

That's the bit I am missing

How did he do this????

Playing well in Premierships must be very selfish.

 

[dreamkillers]

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Originally posted by Jars458
That's the bit I am missing

How did he do this????

Playing well in Premierships must be very selfish.

I'll admit he had one really good year at Port where we did in fact win a premiership but the **** he did off the field and throughout other seasons during his time at both clubs wouldn't be anything to be proud of. As such he will not receive the recognition of many other less skillful players that have been at the club over the years.

To compare him to Primus at Port who is there for team success first and foremost then himself is where I cannot understand your comparison and why I suggested the comparison with the Pavlich bros who couldn't be bothered training/playing at the Eagles so went missing for a few months before turning up at Flinders Park.

 

[Jars458]

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Originally posted by dreamkillers
I'll admit he had one really good year at Port where we did in fact win a premiership but the **** he did off the field and throughout other seasons during his time at both clubs wouldn't be anything to be proud of. As such he will not receive the recognition of many other less skillful players that have been at the club over the years.

To compare him to Primus at Port who is there for team success first and foremost then himself is where I cannot understand your comparison and why I suggested the comparison with the Pavlich bros who couldn't be bothered training/playing at the Eagles so went missing for a few months before turning up at Flinders Park.

Fair enough

My point was that it seems to be "non genuine" Port players who are getting the flack from Magpie supporters.

I have never heard anything like that said of anyone that was a Port person originally

It just seemed to me that he was getting harsh treatment because he originally came from Glenelg.

He may have had his faultys, but he did play some good games and perhaps its a bit churlish to bag him so badly. That's all I am saying.

The Primus compaison was only in respect of hin coming from another club and not joining because he watned to do so his whole life but becasue it suited him at teh time as he got to play AFL football. I am saying there is nothing wrong with that.

He is probably a bad example as he is a clean skin and a perfect role model.

 

[Eago77]

He did have a happy knack for finding the goals from almost impossible angles. Good player in his prime, i'd have almost picked him in our original AFL squad, he wouldn't have been the worst selection.

His off-field behaviour and a few things that i know he did, lead me to not having too much respect for him off the field, on the field i didn't mind him playing at Port. He was never my favourite but certainly provided a good few highlights during his time. His last few seasons have been total rubbish and so no real loss comes from his belated retirement announcement.

 

[Macca19]

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Originally posted by Jars458
That's the bit I am missing

How did he do this????

Playing well in Premierships must be very selfish.

Playing well in premierships? He kicked the winner in 1 premiership...it was one of only 3 kicks he had all day. He played in one other premiership side, and kicked 0 goals playing out of a forward pocket.

Ill always remember him as a selfish person who kicked a magnificent winner in a grand final.

 

[Macca19]

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Originally posted by Jars458
Fair enough

My point was that it seems to be "non genuine" Port players who are getting the flack from Magpie supporters.

I have never heard anything like that said of anyone that was a Port person originally

Garbage. A lot of original Port players have been bagged and bagged by the Port crowd. Tylor, Hutton, Clayton, Poulton, Warrior, Pedler, Phelps, Evans. Darren Smith was close to the most maligned player to ever play for the Magpies. I used to love him but a lot of Magpies supporters thought he was a useless hack and continuously let him know this week in week out.

He may have had his faultys, but he did play some good games and perhaps its a bit churlish to bag him so badly. That's all I am saying.

Whos bagged him so badly?? He was an up and down player who came to the club for the wrong reasons, was an arrogant arseh*le off the field wwho treated fans like crud, put in when he felt like it, could kick a freakish goal, could play a match winning game, but played just as many useless games as he did good ones.

Ive left out most of his faults as well.

 

[dreamkillers]

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Originally posted by Jars458
Fair enough

My point was that it seems to be "non genuine" Port players who are getting the flack from Magpie supporters.

I have never heard anything like that said of anyone that was a Port person originally

It just seemed to me that he was getting harsh treatment because he originally came from Glenelg.

He may have had his faultys, but he did play some good games and perhaps its a bit churlish to bag him so badly. That's all I am saying.

The Primus compaison was only in respect of hin coming from another club and not joining because he watned to do so his whole life but becasue it suited him at teh time as he got to play AFL football. I am saying there is nothing wrong with that.

He is probably a bad example as he is a clean skin and a perfect role model.

Being from Glenelg probably didn't help him with us supporters but it really has nothing to do with how he is seen.

Russell Johnston, Carl Fragomeni and Tim Evans were 3 of many non Port Adelaide originals that I have a lot of respect for due to the way they played and more importantly their commitment to the club.

I think Eago77's last post would sum up how most Port supporters think of him during his time at the club.

 

[dreamkillers]

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Originally posted by Macca19
Darren Smith was close to the most maligned player to ever play for the Magpies. I used to love him but a lot of Magpies supporters thought he was a useless hack and continuously let him know this week in week out.

I wouldn't have called him a useless hack but I was one of the many that used to bag him at times and call him Doreen due to the way he played a lot in my eyes............but as a clubman there weren't many more dedicated players to the club and he got the footy rewards he deserved.

 

[Dogwatcher]

Seeya Phil.
I use to appreciate him as a footballer - particularly when he was at Glenelg in his younger days.
However, his performance in last year's reserves grand final really closed my eyes to his good sides. He was running around sniping because Port were getting thumped. He looked old, slow and fat. It really set a poor example for many of the younger fellows in that Port who were working their guts out to see a senior player appear as if he couldn't give a stuff.

 

[Jars458]

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Originally posted by dreamkillers
Being from Glenelg probably didn't help him with us supporters but it really has nothing to do with how he is seen.

Russell Johnston, Carl Fragomeni and Tim Evans were 3 of many non Port Adelaide originals that I have a lot of respect for due to the way they played and more importantly their commitment to the club.

I think Eago77's last post would sum up how most Port supporters think of him during his time at the club.

Fair enough

The explanations have helped me understand your position.

Farewell Phil. It seems you will not be missed.

 

[eastaugh36]

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Originally posted by Macca19
Garbage. A lot of original Port players have been bagged and bagged by the Port crowd. Tylor, Hutton, Clayton, Poulton, Warrior, Pedler, Phelps, Evans. Darren Smith was close to the most maligned player to ever play for the Magpies. I used to love him but a lot of Magpies supporters thought he was a useless hack and continuously let him know this week in week out.

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I dont get people who bag players in their own side.
Sure he did go to Port to get in the AFL but Im sure he isnt the only person to have done that before.
Retires as a premiership player which is what you play the game for. Well done on a good career.

 

[notaportfan]

He’s an arrogant d%^* !! Used to like picking up young girls and acted like he could get any one he wanted in the clubs. As a player, yeah he was ok but obviously never had that X factor to make AFL and a part of me thinks and hopes it was karma (yep I’m one he did bad back in the day !)

 

[Vince Spadea]

He’s an arrogant d%^* !! Used to like picking up young girls and acted like he could get any one he wanted in the clubs. As a player, yeah he was ok but obviously never had that X factor to make AFL and a part of me thinks and hopes it was karma (yep I’m one he did bad back in the day !)