Phillip Nitschke

[Cmarsh]

I am an in principal supporter of voluntary euthanasia, and I acknowledge Dr. Nitschke as long being a friend of the chronically ill in this country.

However, I disagree with his stance on the right to suicide be available to all rational adults.
First of all, what exactly constitutes a "rational" person in the context of making a decision to end your own life?
What if a person suffering clinical depression wanted to end their life? Would this person then be deemed as rational or irrational, since the effect of the depression drives him to suicide, under Dr. Nitschke's worldview could this person then be helped to suicide by health professionals?

It's an idea that just seems to dangerous to me, too open to interpretation.

 

[JD11]

May be better placed in SRP...

It's a good discussion. Certainly beats 90% of the bleating, repetitive trash in politics.

I think all adults should be allowed to kill themselves. It's their life - who are you to tell someone they have to go on living when they'd rather, against all evolutionary instincts, end it all?

 

[Cmarsh]

May be better placed in SRP...

It's a good discussion. Certainly beats 90% of the bleating, repetitive trash in politics.

I think all adults should be allowed to kill themselves. It's their life - who are you to tell someone they have to go on living when they'd rather, against all evolutionary instincts, end it all?

That "who" could be a skilled helper that can use clinically proven treatments such as cognitive behavior therapy to bring them back to more rational thinking, thus positively impacting their emotional state to a point where suicide is no longer desired. Would that not be a more desirable intervention than what Dr. Nitschke would do, which would be to facilitate a preventable suicide.

 

[Upgrayedd]

The nigel brayley case was a step too far and deserves his whack for it. He should have better understand depression and the fact he was worried about being charged for his former wifes murder was not the term of a slow and suffering death. But a man who was broken and wanted to end it

 

[HugeJohnson]

That "who" could be a skilled helper that can use clinically proven treatments such as cognitive behavior therapy to bring them back to more rational thinking, thus positively impacting their emotional state to a point where suicide is no longer desired. Would that not be a more desirable intervention than what Dr. Nitschke would do, which would be to facilitate a preventable suicide.

Who's to say that's the more rational thought process though? Everyone sees the world and life differently, personally I don't think it's anyone's right or responsibility to tell other people how it should be lived. Obviously if they cause a threat to others something should be done, but not when it's to themselves.

 

[Silent Alarm]

I prefer his brother, Nietzsche

 

[Gough]

It's an admirable and just cause but like so many zealots he does his own case little good through some of his own actions.

 

[little graham]

, too open to interpretation.

And you've manipulated that to get your point across.

 

[little graham]

That "who" could be a skilled helper that can use clinically proven treatments

What are these clinically proven treatments? Giving medication to a depressed person that the warning label states may lead to suicide?

 

[Cmarsh]

What are these clinically proven treatments? Giving medication to a depressed person that the warning label states may lead to suicide?

I didn't mention anything about medication.

 

[little graham]

I didn't mention anything about medication.

I would hope you're not advocating someone remains alive so a drug company has a revenue stream. However the tern 'clinically proven treatments' sure sounds like you are.

 

[Cmarsh]

I would hope you're not advocating someone remains alive so a drug company has a revenue stream. However the tern 'clinically proven treatments' sure sounds like you are.

Wow. That's really crude way to way to put it.

 

[little graham]

Wow. That's really crude way to way to put it.

You don't beat around the bush when it comes to these matters. There's a lot of money in it for drug companies keeping people alive at all costs.They lose a revenue stream if euthanasia is legal. They probably have a decent investment into the some of the anti euthanasia advocacy groups.

 

[Cmarsh]

You don't beat around the bush when it comes to these matters. There's a lot of money in it for drug companies keeping people alive at all costs.They lose a revenue stream if euthanasia is legal. They probably have a decent investment into the some of the anti euthanasia advocacy groups.

...but another opens up if euthanasia becomes legal and commonplace. Don't think they would mind either way.

 

[chargers 09]

I would hope you're not advocating someone remains alive so a drug company has a revenue stream. However the tern 'clinically proven treatments' sure sounds like you are.

Here we go again...