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Conspiracy Theory Pizzagate *DEBUNKED

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evo said:
It's never going to be just one thing that 'seals the deal'in this sort of thing. It's preponderance of evidence that points ones view into a direction.
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A connect the dots type thing?

Thats warped logic. Either there is evidence, or there is not. If the only way you can conclude the conspiracy is true is to "read the signs", "interpret what they are REALLY saying" then you are not looking at proof, you are projecting a narrative onto something that isnt there.
evo said:
I thought you'd already looked at the evidence, so not sure what I can show you that would convince you.
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Evidence. Not some guys interpretation. evidence. But hey, I'll take a look at the various things posted on here, and let you know my thoughts...
 

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cannot said:
reasonable probability (which i think is not 'proof') is acceptable for the death of the leader of the third reich, yet you demand a high standard for those that died, say in suspicious circumstances that are connected to 9/11 ?
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I dont think you understand this position properly. Perhaps I didnt explain well enough...

Reasonable probability is another way of saying "beyond reasonable doubt". The example I responded to, Hitlers death, is proven beyond reasonable doubt. In order for it to be NOT true, all the evidence put forward would need to have been fabricated, planted and so on. Although, theoretically its possible it could have been fabricated, there isnt any evidence of this taking place. Therefore, any REASONABLE person would deduce Hitler did in fact die in 1945 in a bunker.

This is roughly the same model our justice system is built on. To prove beyond reasonable doubt is different from eliminating and proving false all other scenarios, rather, its running with the explanation that is most likely (by far) to be the correct one.

Does that make sense?

cannot said:
If the tables were turned and you were trying debunk something would eyewitness accounts, from a guys friends be suffice evidence to conclude your either elusive 'proof'? **
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I speak about using eyewitness accounts as evidence elsewhere, but my position is thus:

Use it as an indication of the truth, and use weight of numbers. If one person saw a UFO, but 450 just saw a weather balloon, then its incredibly likely to be a weather balloon. Sure, its mathematically possible that the one person who saw a UFO is correct, and the other 450 were mistaken, but that would be a "reasonable" position to take, would it.

If there was weather balloon wreckage found nearby, and there was an announcement about weather balloon flights in the area as well....well...I think we can know call it for what it is.

cannot said:
I dont mean to derail the conversation with hitler and jobe watson; its just interesting how your goal posts are fluid ;)
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I dispute this - my goal posts are actually pretty rigid.

I'll state it clearly, as its the same for both this conversation and for 9/11, moon landings etc.

For me to believe something, I need to see evidence. There is no evidence for the 9/11 conspiracy. There is no evidence for the moon landings being faked. So far, I havent seen any evidence of pizzagate either.
 
evo said:
It's never going to be just one thing that 'seals the deal'in this sort of thing. It's preponderance of evidence that points ones view into a direction.

I thought you'd already looked at the evidence, so not sure what I can show you that would convince you. One of the clinchers for me was sussing out Majestic Ape and HJeavy Breathings music videos( unfortunately they were subsequently taken down[I would too])

But anyway this one gives an ok over all view.

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I stopped at 2:45. Doesnt mean I wont keep watching, but I hope it gets better.

So here are my issues thus far.

The "codes" she speaks to. Where did she get these from? How do we know they are commonly used code words by people involved in child molestation? Do we just take her word for it?

Next, the ties of Podesta to Obama, clinton etc. Perhaps this is cleared up later on, but to link them to child molestation JUST because they work together is very poor. I work with a whole range of people in my workplace, THere are pictures of me with them and everything. I bet some of them do drugs. Some of them might even sell them. Does that make me involved, or tainted in their activities?

I need more than that. Perhaps there is more coming...

Lastly - the Domino's "code" word. No doubt, in isolation, that email is wierdly written. I wonder what they were referring to? I wonder...was that the first, and only email in the conversation, or was it a part of a longer thread? Was is referring to a conversation that took place away from emails. Perhaps its some sort of inside joke?

My point here is - In what context was it written?

And her alleging (unopposed I might add) that the word domino is code word for dominating in a sexual manner, is straight up speculation, and has precisely zero credibility.

Like I said. I hope it gets better....
 
BustedWing said:
I stopped at 2:45. Doesnt mean I wont keep watching, but I hope it gets better.

So here are my issues thus far.

The "codes" she speaks to. Where did she get these from? How do we know they are commonly used code words by people involved in child molestation? Do we just take her word for it?

Next, the ties of Podesta to Obama, clinton etc. Perhaps this is cleared up later on, but to link them to child molestation JUST because they work together is very poor. I work with a whole range of people in my workplace, THere are pictures of me with them and everything. I bet some of them do drugs. Some of them might even sell them. Does that make me involved, or tainted in their activities?

I need more than that. Perhaps there is more coming...

Lastly - the Domino's "code" word. No doubt, in isolation, that email is wierdly written. I wonder what they were referring to? I wonder...was that the first, and only email in the conversation, or was it a part of a longer thread? Was is referring to a conversation that took place away from emails. Perhaps its some sort of inside joke?

My point here is - In what context was it written?

And her alleging (unopposed I might add) that the word domino is code word for dominating in a sexual manner, is straight up speculation, and has precisely zero credibility.

Like I said. I hope it gets better....
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Spoiler: it doesn't.

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BustedWing said:
The point I was trying to make is that they might have been threatened by nut jobs. That's exactly what wound up happening.
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Considering it was only just gaining momentum in the underground, I still don't understand that. You have stated on this board that facts are what is required. The fact you used the word 'might' means that it could in fact be plausible that they are hiding something hence changing their privacy settings.
 
Pugz89 said:
Considering it was only just gaining momentum in the underground, I still don't understand that. You have stated on this board that facts are what is required. The fact you used the word 'might' means that it could in fact be plausible that they are hiding something hence changing their privacy settings.
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??

I don't follow your logic at all...


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BustedWing said:
Question all you want. Just dont ignore the answers.


Do you know what convinced them? Evidence. Proof. Science. These are things that seem to be in short supply here...

Not sure I understand this statement...Again, nothing wrong with questions, provided you listen to the answers. pretending said answers don't exist is disingenuous.
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You don't get it.

Evidence doesn't just appear, science is all about your definition of nutjobs.

You come on a conspiracy forum call people nutjobs what questions did you expect to find here?

Is the grass green? Is the sky blue ? Is water wet?

There is a thin line between nutjobs and Einstein. The people who brought you electricity, technology, even the theory of gravity or the world was round all based of a hypothesis not evidence. the arts of music paintings etc etc all considered nutjobs at one point or another.

What if I said to you we could possibly living in a 2d world, a simulation, a video game. You would think I was a nutjob right?

What if I told you the top scientist are not dismissive of this theory and are testing it out right now as we speak. They are finding evidence of coding in the string theory right now. Coding we made in the 1940s. Nah you would probably still think I am nutjob.

My point is you can disagree with their theories fair enough no problem. But to come here and insult people for questioning the way the world works nah mate that dissmissive.
 
BustedWing said:
I stopped at 2:45. Doesnt mean I wont keep watching, but I hope it gets better.

So here are my issues thus far.

The "codes" she speaks to. Where did she get these from? How do we know they are commonly used code words by people involved in child molestation? Do we just take her word for it?

Next, the ties of Podesta to Obama, clinton etc. Perhaps this is cleared up later on, but to link them to child molestation JUST because they work together is very poor. I work with a whole range of people in my workplace, THere are pictures of me with them and everything. I bet some of them do drugs. Some of them might even sell them. Does that make me involved, or tainted in their activities?

I need more than that. Perhaps there is more coming...

Lastly - the Domino's "code" word. No doubt, in isolation, that email is wierdly written. I wonder what they were referring to? I wonder...was that the first, and only email in the conversation, or was it a part of a longer thread? Was is referring to a conversation that took place away from emails. Perhaps its some sort of inside joke?

My point here is - In what context was it written?

And her alleging (unopposed I might add) that the word domino is code word for dominating in a sexual manner, is straight up speculation, and has precisely zero credibility.

Like I said. I hope it gets better....
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Keep watching .. the codes are from the FBI.
 

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Pugz89 said:
Because you said threats were the reason they might have changed their privacy settings. You were the one that brought up any mention of threats.
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That's misleading, and not particularly accurate.

You implied that the fact they changed their privacy settings was proof they were hiding (or trying to hide) untoward behaviour.

I suggested another reason as to why they might change their privacy settings.

You responded with "no one could possibly know why they changed them!"

I said, "agreed, so why even bring the fact they changed their settings up in the first place?".

You brought it up, then spun your own logic against yourself.


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BustedWing said:
That's misleading, and not particularly accurate.

You implied that the fact they changed their privacy settings was proof they were hiding (or trying to hide) untoward behaviour.

I suggested another reason as to why they might change their privacy settings.

You responded with "no one could possibly know why they changed them!"

I said, "agreed, so why even bring the fact they changed their settings up in the first place?".

You brought it up, then spun your own logic against yourself.


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Hmm. I dismissed the gun threat comment as a reason conclusively, as the timeline doesn't fit. You continued to push it as a possibility, I don't believe it.

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Pugz89 said:
Hmm. I dismissed the gun threat comment as a reason conclusively, as the timeline doesn't fit. You continued to push it as a possibility, I don't believe it.

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I used the gun threat as an example of what could reasonably be assumed as a possible outcome of being named as involved in a Paedophile ring.

You're seriously going to sit there and say that prior to this guy going in and waving his gun around, that that possible outcome wouldn't have entered anyone's minds?

Really? Your name is now all over the Internet stating you like to F&$k kids, and you don't think it's possible that morons might want to enact vigilantie justice, and so trying to take steps to protect your privacy is not a wise move??

That's not a reasonable set of events???


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BustedWing said:
I used the gun threat as an example of what could reasonably be assumed as a possible outcome of being named as involved in a Paedophile ring.

You're seriously going to sit there and say that prior to this guy going in and waving his gun around, that that possible outcome wouldn't have entered anyone's minds?

Really? Your name is now all over the Internet stating you like to F&$k kids, and you don't think it's possible that morons might want to enact vigilantie justice, and so trying to take steps to protect your privacy is not a wise move??

That's not a reasonable set of events???


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Making your social media accounts private isn't gonna save your life if people are out to get you lmao
 
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