Autopsy Positives and Negatives vs Sydney

[Chump Change]

Again, there was a global pandemic. The goddamn GF hasn’t been played in Melbourne for the past 2 years. Why did we go on a 7 game winning streak in 2020 after arriving back in the state, if we had been worked out? How did Shuey and Yeo being injured for large parts of both 2020 and 2021 not affect us? How does spending an entire season outside the state not affect anything?

Going by your logic, Simon Goodwin should’ve been sacked at the end of 2020, after finishing third last the year after a prelim and missing the finals the following year. Additionally, Damien Hardwick should’ve been sacked in 2015 after Richmond failed to win a final for 3 consecutive years.

The entire reason Adelaide haven‘t been able to win more than two flags is because they’ve sacked their coaches immediately if they don’t reach expectations:

• In 1993, Graham Cornes led Adelaide to their first finals series after 2 seasons of finishing 9th. They made the prelim, only to lose from a 42 point half time lead against Essendon. They then missed the finals the following year and Cornes was asked to leave.
• After replacing Malcolm Blight in 2000, Gary Ayres led them to the finals from 2001-03. In 2004, after finding themselves sitting midtable by the middle of the year, Ayres was told he would no longer be needed.
• In his inaugural season after replacing Craig, Brenton Sanderson got Adelaide within a goal of the GF in 2012. They sacked Sanderson after the Crows didn’t make finals the next 2 seasons, to be replaced by Walsh.

In all cases, Adelaide had greater success after the sacking (consecutive prelims under Neil Craig, a prelim under Sanderson, a GF under Pyke), but have been unable to reach the ultimate glory, precisely because their board is so reactionary when results don’t go their way. It got to the point where, in an effort to build “mental resilience“, they went with that stupid camp which basically destroyed their club.

So that’s why your approach doesn’t make sense, because the coaching staff and the club don’t exist in a vacuum. The unfortunate fact about football is we exist in a physical reality that impacts us beyond the results of different matches, and we are currently in a situation on which we are absolutely f’ed.

You're clueless.

 

[Chump Change]

I love this breakdown because it shows exactly where we are going wrong. Rather pick explosive, inside, contested ball winning mids (and i am NOT saying that Kennedy and Nic Nat were poor acquisitions, because they clearly weren't), we prioritize talls and halfback flankers. And when we do select a midfielder with a top pick, its an outside mid with no contested game like Gaff or Masten.

Its not rocket science as to what we need to do, we have all picked up on it for years: select and prioritize the best contested ball winning midfielders that we can. And if it works out that we end up with too many? Good! That's an excellent problem for us to have

I don't think we have gone wrong though. We won a flag with this group. My only disappointment is that because of the style of how we played, we forfeited the opportunity to win more.

The point of the post was really to highlight what the last 6 teams have in terms of playing roster - 2x top 5 picks who turn into prime movers are no guarantee of a flag, but if you don't have them, you're probably not winning a flag.....

So going forward, we need 2x top 5 picks who end up as A graders....

So when we dish up what we did on Friday night, I don't lose my sh!t because my focus is on the long game. Not a nothing game in round 5 of 2022.

 

[salo]

I don't think we have gone wrong though. We won a flag with this group. My only disappointment is that because of the style of how we played, we forfeited the opportunity to win more.

We stopped playing the contested, high-pressure style that won us that flag. Haven't seen it consistently since Sept 18.

 

[scaryness]

Late opposition rankings after watching replay
Everyone starts at 0 and only goes up (i.e. most players average out to a 5 and below that doesn't necessarily mean a "bad" game. Not everyone can be a stand out.)

Barrass 6/10
Witherden 6/10
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Williams 5/10
Redden 5/10
Shuey 5/10
Rotham 5/10
Cripps 5/10
Foley 4/10
Duggan 4/10
Edwards 4/10
Ryan 4/10
Kelly 4/10
Rioli 4/10
-
Naish 3/10
Yeo 3/10
Kennedy 3/10
Dixon 3/10
Hurn 2/10
Nelson 2/10
Langdon 2/10
Jones 2/10
Darling 2/10

 

[THE A5]

Late opposition rankings after watching replay
Everyone starts at 0 and only goes up (i.e. most players average out to a 5 and below that doesn't necessarily mean a "bad" game. Not everyone can be a stand out.)

Barrass 6/10
Witherden 6/10
-
Williams 5/10
Redden 5/10
Shuey 5/10
Rotham 5/10
Cripps 5/10
Foley 4/10
Duggan 4/10
Edwards 4/10
Ryan 4/10
Kelly 4/10
Rioli 4/10
-
Naish 3/10
Yeo 3/10
Kennedy 3/10
Dixon 3/10
Hurn 2/10
Nelson 2/10
Langdon 2/10
Jones 2/10
Darling 2/10

I only watched a half but there's no way williams gets half mark and gets more than Naish too. Williams is pure rabbl. Naish from what I saw was on early, did turn over a lil bit but was actually trying to create for us.

 

[scaryness]

I only watched a half but there's no way williams gets half mark and gets more than Naish too. Williams is pure rabbl. Naish from what I saw was on early, did turn over a lil bit but was actually trying to create for us.

Nearly everything Williams got marks for was in the last quarter, so junk time, but I count the whole game regardless.

 

[Bender_]

Late opposition rankings after watching replay
Everyone starts at 0 and only goes up (i.e. most players average out to a 5 and below that doesn't necessarily mean a "bad" game. Not everyone can be a stand out.)

Barrass 6/10
Witherden 6/10
-
Williams 5/10
Redden 5/10
Shuey 5/10
Rotham 5/10
Cripps 5/10
Foley 4/10
Duggan 4/10
Edwards 4/10
Ryan 4/10
Kelly 4/10
Rioli 4/10
-
Naish 3/10
Yeo 3/10
Kennedy 3/10
Dixon 3/10
Hurn 2/10
Nelson 2/10
Langdon 2/10
Jones 2/10
Darling 2/10

Curious to know the way these rankings are made.

 

[Chump Change]

We stopped playing the contested, high-pressure style that won us that flag. Haven't seen it consistently since Sept 18.

When we won the flag we were losing the contest ball count on most weeks. The balance between contested ball and corale/zone off had to be perfect. Since the flag our players just weren't interested in pressure at all. So instead of losing the contest ball count by a little bit, we were losing it by a lot - which meant we could no longer compete with the top teams.